Tencent (chinese government) political oppression in gaming

[shrek_terror]

Apple sending user browsing data to Chinese company Tencent - 9to5Mac

Apple has found itself embroiled in yet another China-related controversy, as it appears to be sending user browsing data to Tencent, a Chinese company ...

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jerking off to anime tiddies and these chinks are trying think of a way to push advertising into your private life based on your browsing history.

 

[Secret Asshole]

It's not exactly a super-dramatic "apres moi, le deluge" situation like with Putin or the OG Louis XIV, but it's a model of government the Chinese should be hesitant to revert to. Historically the competent emperors usually build the empire and fix the damage done by the bad emperors, but after you get an unbroken succession of bad emperors, there's too much damage done to the underlying infrastructure that holds up the economy/society/state, and even a good emperor can't save the situation. Then the dynasty falls, and that's the terrible deluge.

Of course, with the current Chinese model of reckless economic development and concomitant acceleration of societal stresses and strains, it might take just one "bad emperor" to bring the whole thing crashing down. I guess it depends on whether you believe the Chinese economic miracle is built on a foundation of paper houses. If so, then the historical model probably doesn't apply so much, as in the old days the sheer inertia of the extensive Chinese civilizational infrastructure was enough to keep a dynasty going even through a long string of bad emperors.

Considering a lot of that majestic infrastructure was built cheap, fast and with little concern for the environment, their infrastructure will rot away in five years what it took 50 for us.

Apple sending user browsing data to Chinese company Tencent - 9to5Mac

Apple has found itself embroiled in yet another China-related controversy, as it appears to be sending user browsing data to Tencent, a Chinese company ...

9to5mac.com

jerking off to anime tiddies and these chinks are trying think of a way to push advertising into your private life based on your browsing history.

If there's one reason they'll keep anime tiddies around, its this. Also, Google already does this.

 

[MrTickles]

It's not exactly a super-dramatic "apres moi, le deluge" situation like with Putin or the OG Louis XIV, but it's a model of government the Chinese should be hesitant to revert to. Historically the competent emperors usually build the empire and fix the damage done by the bad emperors, but after you get an unbroken succession of bad emperors, there's too much damage done to the underlying infrastructure that holds up the economy/society/state, and even a good emperor can't save the situation. Then the dynasty falls, and that's the terrible deluge.

Of course, with the current Chinese model of reckless economic development and concomitant acceleration of societal stresses and strains, it might take just one "bad emperor" to bring the whole thing crashing down. I guess it depends on whether you believe the Chinese economic miracle is built on a foundation of paper houses. If so, then the historical model probably doesn't apply so much, as in the old days the sheer inertia of the extensive Chinese civilizational infrastructure was enough to keep a dynasty going even through a long string of bad emperors.

Poor analysis imo.

The tang, Song and ming (three of the most successful dynasties in chinese history) fell prey to either the north/south china divide or super nomad invaders. No static urbanized societies could resist organized horse nomads during that era of technology (Manchu and Mongols respectively). If the Americans tried some shit they would be forced to back off under threat of total annihilation. China's esclating 1-2-3 punch (anti ship glide vehicles, DF-41 and strategic subs ensure that). And they can't stop China economically or cut off its access to Eurasia, so its smooth sailing ahead.

China has also entirely eliminated the north/south yellow river divide with 1st class infrastructure that makes the west look like the developing world. And contrary to sperg belief, China only uses the best methods and materials for itself, exporting left overs abroad.

Expect the CPC to continue to morph from a german-russian-Maoist experiment into some kind of Chinese monstrosity and linger for centuries to come. I'll give it a comfortable 500+ years; it will surive well into the colonization of the inner solar system.

 

[SiccDicc]

And contrary to sperg belief, China only uses the best methods and materials for itself, exporting left overs abroad.

Is that why their water parks, escalators and elevators keep collapsing?

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Is that why their water parks, escalators and elevators keep collapsing?

And housing and office buildings

 

[MrTickles]

Is that why their water parks, escalators and elevators keep collapsing?

Let me guess, you saw one bad example out of 10,000 newly built high-rises and now live with the blanket misconception? Ok. Good news. Acute myopia does have a cure.

 

[SiccDicc]

Let me guess, you saw one bad example out of 10,000 newly built high-rises and now live with the blanket misconception? Ok. Good news. Acute myopia does have a cure.

It seems to happen weekly. You always hear about shit collapsing which is usually because of corruption and lack of regulations or oversight in construction.

Which tends to happen when you have your government intrinsically linked to said companies.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Let me guess, you saw one bad example out of 10,000 newly built high-rises and now live with the blanket misconception? Ok. Good news. Acute myopia does have a cure.

Or the hundreds of videos on the internet of it happening

also dozens of live videos (if you know where to look) of it happening

 

[Marissa Moira]

All those companies lining up to buy that coveted chinese steel and metal components.

 

[MrTickles]

Well when you use 80% of the world's steel supply every year you're not going to be exporting much of it abroad, unless you're stupid. You will be exporting finished goods.

Tencent certainly doesn't rely on exporting steel.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Well when you use 80% of the world's steel supply every year you're not going to be exporting much of it abroad, unless you're stupid. You will be exporting finished goods.

Tencent certainly doesn't rely on exporting steel.

You don't understand Chinese steel has the worst reputation and the entire industry is loaded with fraud.

They'll inspect one sheet on top and have it be the type you ordered, and sell you garbage smelt underneath for the other 99 sheets of steel.

 

[MrTickles]

Yes they will, if you're a stupid foreigner without people on the ground to check every sheet you're buying from abroad.

It's called business. There's no shame in giving a buyer what they deserve. The strong prosper the weak suffer. Blind orders are weak.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Yes they will, if you're a stupid foreigner without people on the ground to check every sheet you're buying from abroad.

It's called business. There's no shame in giving a buyer what they deserve. The strong prosper the weak suffer. Blind orders are weak.

It's funny how they don't have these same issues with American steel and how that's preferred over anything else.

 

[MrTickles]

It's funny how they don't have these same issues with American steel and how that's preferred over anything else.

It's funny how American companies have to be contracted to build American steel bridges. American corruption lies elsewhere, not with the suppliers. See Cali high speed rail attempt for reference.

 

[Marissa Moira]

It's funny how American companies have to be contracted to build American steel bridges. American corruption lies elsewhere, not with the suppliers. See Cali high speed rail attempt for reference.

>California
>Most corrupt state
>Also state with highest Chinese population

 

[MrTickles]

>California
>Most corrupt state
>Also state with highest Chinese population

Singapore, 3rd least corrupt state on earth, Also state with highest ethnic Chinese population outside of China.

In short the problem lies with governance.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Singapore, 3rd least corrupt state on earth, Also state with highest ethnic Chinese population outside of China.

In short the problem lies with governance.

Singapore is the product of Japanese investors.

 

[MrTickles]

Singapore is the product of its working population.

 

[4str4staleatherbelt]

Why is Tencent's (a Chinese company) "political oppression" in gaming any worse than Blizzard's (an American company) who will ban/suspend you for political speech they disapprove of?

A recent example I guess:.
Speedrunner RWhiteGoose was banned from participating in GDQ for saying some basic /pol/ shit in discord.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

Why is Tencent's (a Chinese company) "political oppression" in gaming any worse than Blizzard's (an American company) who will ban/suspend you for political speech they disapprove of?

A recent example I guess:.
Speedrunner RWhiteGoose was banned from participating in GDQ for saying some basic /pol/ shit in discord.

The /pol/ approved hot take is that Tencent's 5% stake in Activision Blizzard is part of the reason that Blizzard is bending over for their communist masters. It's probably mostly correct if you don't mind oversimplifying Activision Blizzard's relationship with China. One of Activision Blizzard's ins with the Chinese market is their partial Chinese ownership which is pretty much a requirement at this point for safely doing business with the ratmen.