Terror Trouble in Orlando

Over 50 killed. RIP

 

[Ntwadumela]

Wait, really?

We should probably look into exploiting that loophole. Someone get Quantico on the horn.

With a team of strategically-located faggots we could bring Islam to its knees.

Islam is not the problem here. Wahhabists are.
But good point either way.

 

[Wallace]

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

Perhaps he was mad he didn't get laid? Sexual frustration can do a number on a young man.

I know is half joking but given his marital life and his dad anecdote about getting mad because seeing two guys kissing in front of his kid... maybe this theory is not far from the truth

 

[Sailor_Jupiter]

im interested to see how the US ultra religious right processes this event because on one hand, the aggressor was Muslim, but on the other, the victims were gay

"Thou shalt not kill."

Love, the only RR on this board.

Btw could someone give a text summary? I'm at a place where I can't watch videos right now. What exactly happened?

 

[melty]

Islam is not the problem here. Wahhabists are.
But good point either way.

With all due respect, statements like this aren't really helpful.
A lot of people get the feeling, after these events, that moderate/"good" muslims don't really do anything but point fingers about how it's those other Muslims.
And yeah it's true and it's shitty they are doing that but idk, it even rubs me the wrong way for a reason I can't quite articulate.

 

[Ntwadumela]

Btw could someone give a text summary? I'm at a place where I can't watch videos right now. What exactly happened?

A terrorist admitted to be supporting ISIS went to the Pulse Gay Nightclub in Orlando and killed 50 people, and left 55 injured.

With all due respect, statements like this aren't really helpful.
A lot of people get the feeling, after these events, that moderate/"good" muslims don't really do anything but point fingers about how it's those other Muslims.
And yeah it's true and it's shitty they are doing that but idk, it even rubs me the wrong way for a reason I can't quite articulate.

If I was in the US right now I would do something about it. But since I'm half the world away and we don't have this problem with ISIS what am I supposed to do right now?

 

[Sailor_Jupiter]

A terrorist admitted to be supporting ISIS went to the Pulse Gay Nightclub in Orlando and killed 50 people, and left 55 injured.

Oh, that's AWFUL! FIFTY?! Those poor people... I'm tearing up over this... How on earth does someone kill that many people?!?

May they rest peacefully.

 

[Male Idiot]

To be honest, Americans and their liberal west allies really don't understand how non-gay supporting the rest of the world is. Or what life in the rest of the world is in general, no offense.

In a non-first world country, two men kissing usually still elicits a disgusted reaction in public.

When immigrants bring these world views to the US, and they fall in with radical groups, violence is the sad but logical result. Throw in the fact that the guy was abusive and violent to begin with, and we got a mass killer with a tragedy in the making.

But yeah if you are a muslim, you can try to make sure your fellows are not radicalised, or report those to the authorities that are being suspicious. It is all in your best interests, since less radicals means less excuses for angry mobs!

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

It's official

2016 is the worst.

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

With all due respect, statements like this aren't really helpful.
A lot of people get the feeling, after these events, that moderate/"good" muslims don't really do anything but point fingers about how it's those other Muslims.
And yeah it's true and it's shitty they are doing that but idk, it even rubs me the wrong way for a reason I can't quite articulate.

They point fingers because they know that a new wave of prejudcie is going to happen regardless of their personal beliefs and actions. I will agree that anti discrimination groups should do better as stuff as that " scholar" in the orlando mosque is not helping them and the slacktivism is doing more harm than good.

 

[Dr.Research]

A terrorist admitted to be supporting ISIS went to the Pulse Gay Nightclub in Orlando and killed 50 people, and left 55 injured.

If I was in the US right now I would do something about it. But since I'm half the world away and we don't have this problem with ISIS what am I supposed to do right now?

No one expects any non-radical Muslim to don a bulletproof vest and go fight ISIS, but just saying 'not me!' doesn't do anything.
I don't know what the situation or feel in Kuwait it, but in the USA, doing something would be:

-Making sure friends aren't getting radicalized.
-Speaking out against violence, but not passive aggressively ("Yea, Muslims being violent is bad, but it's not our fault).
-Practicing a moderate version of your faith.
-Admitting religion* is violent but encouraging people to not to drift towards it as a problem solving.
-Being active on positive social causes and not supporting laws and beliefs that belong in the stone age.

Among other things.


* Not picking on Islam. Most religion is violent and they should all admit it.

 

[on a serious note]

"Thou shalt not kill."

Love, the only RR on this board.

I wasn't trying to say all religious people agree with this behavior, I was just curious about a very, very specific...type of religious person in the US

 

[Dr.Research]

To be honest, Americans and their liberal west allies really don't understand how non-gay supporting the rest of the world is. Or what life in the rest of the world is in general, no offense.

In a non-first world country, two men kissing usually still elicits a disgusted reaction in public.

When immigrants bring these world views to the US, and they fall in with radical groups, violence is the sad but logical result. Throw in the fact that the guy was abusive and violent to begin with, and we got a mass killer with a tragedy in the making.

That just means we're failing at screening people and getting people to adjust to our culture because we don't make them.

 

[*Asterisk*]

"Thou shalt not kill."

Love, the only RR on this board.

I'm positive you're not the only one, babe.

 

[Ntwadumela]

No one expects any non-radical Muslim to don a bulletproof vest and go fight ISIS, but just saying 'not me!' doesn't do anything.
I don't know what the situation or feel in Kuwait it, but in the USA, doing something would be:

-Making sure friends aren't getting radicalized.
-Speaking out against violence, but not passive aggressively ("Yea, Muslims being violent is bad, but it's not our fault).
-Practicing a moderate version of your faith.
-Admitting religion* is violent but encouraging people to not to drift towards it as a problem solving.
-Being active on positive social causes and not supporting laws and beliefs that belong in the stone age.

Among other things.


* Not picking on Islam. Most religion is violent and they should all admit it.

You do not have to worry about that. We have been trying and doing all of that with success. We here are against ISIS as well as you may have already known. I will continue to make progress with this alongside our efforts.

 

[Without A Gout]

I'm sorry, but I'm kinda skeptical about how somebody who has a checkered reputation and was interviewed by the FBI several times not only got to keep his firearms license, but purchased a firearm without any sort of flag going off.

Either our national security is still a joke when it comes to potential terrorists purchasing firearms or the gun store either was greedy and wanted money or didn't want to come off as racist.

It's fucked up either way.

It's official

2016 is the worst.

I miss The Current Year. Current Year +1 is terrible. I want to go back.

 

[Lorento]

I'm sorry, but I'm kinda skeptical about how somebody who has a checkered reputation and was interviewed by the FBI several times not only got to keep his firearms license, but purchased a firearm without any sort of flag going off.

The people who failed in this regard should be punished IMO. Their incompetence killed 50 people.

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

If I was in the US right now I would do something about it. But since I'm half the world away and we don't have this problem with ISIS what am I supposed to do right now?

I think he was speaking more about the groups that usually represent musulims outside radicals. Yes, the perception of Islam is still demonized to a great extent in the west but the hyper defensive aproach against this is not improving things either.

 

[Cute Anime Girl]

That feel when you pledge allegiance to ISIS and flat out say you're killing people because of Islam and dummies still don't believe you.

 

[Sailor_Jupiter]

I wasn't trying to say all religious people agree with this behavior, I was just curious about a very, very specific...type of religious person in the US

I'm an what they call an evangelical, though, which is probably the type you meant? - and I still think this is horrible. I don't really appreciate the LGBT Bakery Gestapo (religious reasons, and I philosophically think that conscience freedom is important for keeping a functional democracy,) but... Dang, you can't just shoot at people, even when a few members of the group sometimes do stuff that's annoying. I mean, I probably AM the "baking cakes should be entirely voluntary for all people" person you're talking about... but I'm still literally crying over this. It's such a terrible tragedy. We share a common humanity: I believe that you don't have to 100% agree with someone to cry for them. (Christ Himself wept for the Jerusalem, which crucified Him.) I hope I'm making sense, I'm so upset now I can't type... I just can't fathom hurting that many people. Even if there was a club full of cannibal neo-nazis, I wouldn't want them shot... It just blows my mind that anyone could do that to someone else... Those poor people. Those poor people! These clubs may need to hire security guards, that might help..? Those poor people... 50... so awful.