Inactive Terry A. Davis / Terrence Andrew Davis - Creator of TempleOS (formerly LoseThos/sparrowOS)

Using the Address from the Dalles chronicle article on Terry's death I got a few screengrabs of the location he was reported to be found dead at. The traintracks near west first and Terminal avenue, the Dalles, Oregon. The train tracks are mostly obscured by grass and bushes but you can kind of see the industrial area he was in.

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Location of death from google maps
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Angle from west 1st street facing towards the tracks
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Other side of the tracks on the terminal ave
 
Using the Address from the Dalles chronicle article on Terry's death I got a few screengrabs of the location he was reported to be found dead at. The traintracks near west first and Terminal avenue, the Dalles, Oregon. The train tracks are mostly obscured by grass and bushes but you can kind of see the industrial area he was in.

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Location of death from google maps
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Angle from west 1st street facing towards the tracks
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Other side of the tracks on the terminal ave
So sad he is gone from this planet. :(
 
Here's one with corrupted video. The shooting is around 6:45 and 9:36.
The quotes are just amazing.
"Hope I won't get zapped"
"I do magic all the time, I know all about dimensions"
"bang bang bang I got you with my finger gun"
"probably just a dragon"
"What are you scared Terry? No.."

It's wonderful.
The only good thing that came out of that sad situation.

obligitory RIP Terry A. Davis
 
Using the Address from the Dalles chronicle article on Terry's death I got a few screengrabs of the location he was reported to be found dead at. The traintracks near west first and Terminal avenue, the Dalles, Oregon. The train tracks are mostly obscured by grass and bushes but you can kind of see the industrial area he was in.

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Location of death from google maps
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Angle from west 1st street facing towards the tracks
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Other side of the tracks on the terminal ave
Don’t forget to flag it as a “Holy/Religious site”
 
Damn, I only heard about Terry a few months back. I wish I could have followed the guy more or did something, as he lived in my same state. Rest in peace.

There's nothing anyone can do. Back in the day he would probably be chained to a wall at Bedlam, where he'd be fed and kept safe under awful conditions, and I'm not entirely sure letting him die on a street is a step forward or back.
 
There's nothing anyone can do. Back in the day he would probably be chained to a wall at Bedlam, where he'd be fed and kept safe under awful conditions, and I'm not entirely sure letting him die on a street is a step forward or back.

They generally actually didn't live very long. The "treatments" were incredibly violent and brutal and often killed the "patients."
 
Damn, I only heard about Terry a few months back. I wish I could have followed the guy more or did something, as he lived in my same state. Rest in peace.

There's nothing you could've done. He was homeless but getting pretty sizeable donations, job and housing offers; he just wanted to do his locusts and honey thing.

P.S. in response to the above, the history of psychiatry is pretty cool to read about. I don't claim that Bedlam would've had anything to offer him, but there IS actually compelling evidence for the efficacy of now obsolete treatments like insulin shock (coma) therapy.
 
They generally actually didn't live very long. The "treatments" were incredibly violent and brutal and often killed the "patients."

Agreed, bad example on my part.

I do suspect though, that simply warehousing people even against their will, with no attempt at treating the untreatable, might be an improvement on how things are done now. Of course, there's no such thing as a good one-size-fits-all strategy here. In principle, I do believe that don't lock up people unless they are a threat to themselves or others is a good goal to work towards.

Unfortunately, there's always going to be error. You're either going to deprive too many people of their liberty for no good reason, or you are going to let people walk who skip off and immediately self-immolate. Pick one.
 
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It's kinda treatable though. He could've been at least put on anti-psychotics. I doubt he would've agreed to take them though.

The first time I heard about Terry was when it was still SparrowOS, I think. I don't remember clearly because it has been a while but I remember that it didn't have all these religious overtones or they were a lot more muted, all that 24/7 god stuff came later when he got worse. I know I'm incredibly late with this but it was pretty shocking to hear that he died, and I still think about it sometimes. Funny because I didn't even really know the guy even.
 
It's kinda treatable though. He could've been at least put on anti-psychotics. I doubt he would've agreed to take them though.

The first time I heard about Terry was when it was still SparrowOS, I think. I don't remember clearly because it has been a while but I remember that it didn't have all these religious overtones or they were a lot more muted, all that 24/7 god stuff came later when he got worse. I know I'm incredibly late with this but it was pretty shocking to hear that he died, and I still think about it sometimes. Funny because I didn't even really know the guy even.

Terry was prescribed anti psychotics repeatedly. Sadly like most of the severely mentally ill he refused to take them. Compliance is the biggest issue with the mentally ill.
 
It's kinda treatable though. He could've been at least put on anti-psychotics. I doubt he would've agreed to take them though.

The guy would have been smarter than all his psychiatrists. Good luck trying to force a guy like that to do anything he didn't want to, even with more coercive measures than we have available currently.

Terry was prescribed anti psychotics repeatedly. Sadly like most of the severely mentally ill he refused to take them. Compliance is the biggest issue with the mentally ill.

Most antipsychotics really dampen your intellect and if you are someone like Terry, that may be the only thing you have about yourself that you value at all. So anything that makes you dumb is going to be viewed as pure poison.

I think he stepped in front of that train because he knew it was just never going to get any better and he was probably right. It was either be crazy or be stupid and he'd rather be neither, and not be at all.
 
I'd suggest that if a patient dislikes a treatment enough to go off it against their doctor's advice, then it's not a very effective treatment. If, for example, you had a pill that prevented nose picking but had a side effect of migraines, would you require someone to take it?

I know that's another simplistic example, because someone who goes into psychotic rages and attacks his father is clearly not harmless.

It's troubling and I don't believe there are any easy answers, because different people obviously have opposing, but perfectly legitimate concerns.
 
The quotes are just amazing.
"Hope I won't get zapped"
"I do magic all the time, I know all about dimensions"
"bang bang bang I got you with my finger gun"
"probably just a dragon"
"What are you scared Terry? No.."

It's wonderful.
The only good thing that came out of that sad situation.

obligitory RIP Terry A. Davis

Fucking hell, I feel sad once again.

Terry was a beautiful man.
 
I'd suggest that if a patient dislikes a treatment enough to go off it against their doctor's advice, then it's not a very effective treatment. If, for example, you had a pill that prevented nose picking but had a side effect of migraines, would you require someone to take it?

I know that's another simplistic example, because someone who goes into psychotic rages and attacks his father is clearly not harmless.

It's troubling and I don't believe there are any easy answers, because different people obviously have opposing, but perfectly legitimate concerns.

At the end of the day, mental illness is an incredibly complicated subject matter that doesn't have a clear solution in sight. If anything we are just now scratching the surface of it.

While Terrys story ultimately did not have a happy ending, we at the very least can use his experiences to better understand mental issues moving forward.
 
I'd suggest that if a patient dislikes a treatment enough to go off it against their doctor's advice, then it's not a very effective treatment. If, for example, you had a pill that prevented nose picking but had a side effect of migraines, would you require someone to take it?

The problem with a highly intelligent and creative person like Terry is that if he stays on antipsychotics they more or less nuke that. This is less the case with the newer atypical antipsychotics but they're still nasty and absolutely nobody actually likes their effects.

So maybe someone like Terry gets a brief period of lucidity out of going off meds. Unfortunately, that's before the schiz comes back full force, and once that happens, he might not even be able to make a rational decision, might believe the meds are literally poison (which is not too far from the truth really), and isn't going to go back on them, until he ends up in a loony bin having them forced down his throat.

Then the cycle starts again.

I really think Terry stepped in front of that train because he knew there was literally no other way out of his intolerable situation and had lost all hope. In his last videos he really just seemed defeated and sad in a way he hadn't been previously.
 
The problem with a highly intelligent and creative person like Terry is that if he stays on antipsychotics they more or less nuke that. This is less the case with the newer atypical antipsychotics but they're still nasty and absolutely nobody actually likes their effects.

So maybe someone like Terry gets a brief period of lucidity out of going off meds. Unfortunately, that's before the schiz comes back full force, and once that happens, he might not even be able to make a rational decision, might believe the meds are literally poison (which is not too far from the truth really), and isn't going to go back on them, until he ends up in a loony bin having them forced down his throat.

Then the cycle starts again.

I really think Terry stepped in front of that train because he knew there was literally no other way out of his intolerable situation and had lost all hope. In his last videos he really just seemed defeated and sad in a way he hadn't been previously.
Agree, 100%. I think Terry, despite being in the throes of mental illness, was being smart enough to know that there was something seriously wrong and that a fix is not available (and may never be). His death is tragic, but it may have been a mercy killing of sorts for himself. I can't imagine not being able to trust my own brain to do what's necessary to live a stable life.

Godspeed, Terry. Hope you're doing well if there is an afterlife.
 
At the end of the day, mental illness is an incredibly complicated subject matter that doesn't have a clear solution in sight. If anything we are just now scratching the surface of it.
Its also worth noting that even studying it is relatively new in human history, and even over the past century the ways in which it is studied and treated has radically changed. It is both unique to each patient and at the same time a relatively uncharted science. All medicine is something where you can only generalize the outcome, and of course no human is an isolated environment, so you also have to monitor changes.

Terry's case is a very sad one. I loved the dude and while it's going to be considered autistic, but if I could throw everything away I probably would have hung out with the dude and traveled around with him in his van. Kind of a George and Lenny situation, where you try to help him out, not that he needed it or that it would have ever worked, but I mean he was picked up and put in jail just before he took a sharp downward turn and made those last few videos, right? Im a weird dude myself and I kind of love weird people as long as they arent too loud--Im empathetic for people like that, it's kind of like, 'There but for the grace of god goes I'.
 
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