Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

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This works fine if you don't regularly do long trips. I used to drive 1200 miles in a week in the UK. I used to literally drive straight into a petrol station, fill up, piss, grab a Coke Zero and get back on the road, which takes maybe 10 minutes.

30 minutes of waiting to charge is too long when your drive is 6+ hours long and you are doing that twice a week or more. You are going to lose an hour or more charging. So a 6-hour trip can become an 8-hour trip easily.
I used to drive through sticks of the states where finding anything but 87 could be a 60 mile stretch, so finding some fucking fast charger with a Starfux to glaze for half an hour is like dreaming of flying cars. And indeed, even a quick fill stop during a long haul literally adds half to an hour had you been able to just keep hauling ass.

I also hate the idea itself that large amount of money I spent on a versatile thing that is supposed to open more locale to me is gonna be limited in a retarded way like running out of a slowly charging battery.
 
"Just swap the batteries out ..." Wait they did that in the 1920 and it never caught on and the oil companies bought it and put it out of business. Also Aluminum batteries were suppressed. This was a technology that consumed the electrolyte while the battery was used so it would work like a solid fuel. It was squashed before it came to market. Just accept you are supposed to only drive your go card around your 15 minute prison camp and be happy because you will be sent to hole for showing any emotion other than happy.

If it was anything like this, it seemed to require 4 or 5 men to do the battery change.
I used to drive through sticks of the states where finding anything but 87 could be a 60 mile stretch, so finding some fucking fast charger with a Starfux to glaze for half an hour is like dreaming of flying cars. And indeed, even a quick fill stop during a long haul literally adds half to an hour had you been able to just keep hauling ass.
My stepfather has an electric vehicle (it does seem to be a nice vehicle). While he seems to be happy with it, longer routes require more planning, and you are forced to keep to the main roads. I don't drive as much as I used to and instead take the country roads. I don't really need to worry about fueling. I have a jerry can full of diesel in the back (I drive an old 4x4).
I also hate the idea itself that large amount of money I spent on a versatile thing that is supposed to open more locale to me is gonna be limited in a retarded way like running out of a slowly charging battery.
One of the things I really like about my 4x4 is that I can go pretty much anywhere I want. I bombed down some green lanes today, and there is no modern anything there. I don't want to have to worry about charging a car. If I were in more rural areas further up North in the UK, there often isn't any infrastructure up there. There would be nowhere to charge.

A lot of people who are EV fanatics call this "range anxiety". It isn't anxiety, EV introduce an extra problem I didn't have to worry about. BTW, I've had "range anxiety" in my 4x4 when the fuel gauge stopped working halfway through a long journey.
 
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"The vehicle owner purchased the vehicle from General Vehicle Company (GVC, a subsidiary of the General Electric Company) without a battery and the electricity was purchased from Hartford Electric through an exchangeable battery. The owner paid a variable charge and a monthly service fee to cover the maintenance and storage of the truck." from here.

But look at what horrific part finally did catch on - subscription services for parts of the damn car..........not to mention that cost of the car itself back then surely and heavily outweighed the cost of the battery itself unlike today when 10/30k of the shitbox is the damn battery, much like the gas engine+tranny. Nor is it a milk crate with a simple positive and negative terminal anymore, so swapping modern nuclear-level power plants would not be quicker than filling a 20 gallon tank of gas. I said it before and I will again - EVs will catch right on when getting 400 mile range back into them will become but a 5-10 minute affair, which is won't.
The cars with the replaceable batteries were made with modular battery packs witch were swappable. Now a days, with how Indian everything is and what Tesla cars are like, if you looked at the swappable pack wrong the whole thing would catch fire just to spite you. I had seen a video where it looked like the battery took up the whole turn of the car and can be lifted out like a module. This would be a bunch of batteries in a box meant to fit into the car. But looking for it now I can't find it. All the examples of electric cars from the period use traditional lead acid batteries numbering 7 or more. I suppose they must have just picked up the lead acid batteries out of the car and swapped them out battery by battery and didn't use a module to do it at once.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NZ-ktYKazEsIf it was anything like this, it seemed to require 4 or 5 men to do the battery change.
Thank you I was looking for a video like that. In searching I have found a Spanish company that makes a small car with a modular battery pack that wheels around like suitcase. It is important to note, the car is called a "mini car" and is basically an enclosed electric galf cart. They have some photos of actors modeling using the car and I can already imagine that IRL this would be a nightmare. Most people carry things to and from their car on their way to work. They have to have a work bag and a lunch box, so now on top of the stuff I have to take with me to work, I now have an additinoal heavy item, the battery, to lug around too. Swappable batterise have been tried a lot of times. They are a more expensive and less inconvient way to use the same vehicle. It's a massive increase in the cost of energy (gasoline or electricitiy) if I have to manually carry around batteries all the time. It is a reduction is living standards and quality of life to have to pay more and be physically incovenienced for less power. It's a masive haircut economically. I can't see how any one would be excetied about this. All the Eco nonsense doesn't make this worth it. It's just advertising twisting your self into knots chasing green technoolgy to be made poorer and less productive for doing so. It's like being advertised to live in a run down crap house you're not allowed to renovate while living in it; a transition into artifically created poverty.

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By Fernando Ríos | October 21, 2021 | Mechanical Monstrosity | 13 Comments


Silence is a Spanish electric vehicle brand that was recently acquired by Acciona, a company specializing in infrastructure management and renewable energy. Until now, Silence only sold electric motorcycles—the S01 and S02—but has now unveiled its first car, the S04 .


The S04 is a two-seater vehicle designed primarily for city driving, although a version is also available that is legally permitted on highways . In terms of size—it measures only 2.23 meters in length—and its overall design, its main competitors are the Citroën Ami , the eAixam, and the XEV Yoyo.


There are two versions that differ from each other in the maximum power of the motor (electric in both cases), in battery capacity and in their classification from a legislative point of view :


  • L7e: This version has a 19-horsepower motor, two battery packs with a combined capacity of 11.2 kWh, and a range of up to 149 kilometers according to the WMTC (World Motorcycle Test Cycle, a homologation cycle for motorcycles that is not comparable to WLTP). It can reach speeds of up to 90 km/h and legally requires a category B driving license .

  • L6e: For this version, Silence has installed a lower-power motor—8.2 hp—and a single 5.6 kWh battery. Its top speed is 45 km/h and it meets the requirements to be classified as a light quadricycle. To drive it, you need an AM license , the same as for 50cc mopeds (which can be obtained from the age of 15).
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The battery in both models is located under the seats, can be removed from the vehicle, and transported like a trolley suitcase (it has a folding handle for this purpose). It takes about six hours to fully charge using a Schuko socket (in the case of the L7e version, which has two models, each takes six hours).


When purchasing the vehicle, Silence offers the option of buying the battery as well or leasing it for a monthly fee of just over €20. This second option reduces the vehicle's purchase price by approximately 40%, and also provides access to a series of battery swap stations that Silence will be implementing in the near future (the first of which, already operational, is in Barcelona).


At these battery swap stations, the customer simply removes the discharged battery (or batteries), deposits it at a designated point, and picks up a fully charged one to install in their car . According to Silence, the process is very simple and takes about the same amount of time as refueling a combustion engine vehicle.

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Both versions of the S04 come standard with features such as power windows, central locking, a multifunction steering wheel, a sound system with Bluetooth connectivity, and windshield wipers with five speed settings. Air conditioning and ABS brakes are available as options .


S04 owners have access to a mobile application from which it is possible to consult vehicle data (general status, range, battery charge level or where it is parked) and perform actions remotely (open or close the car, activate or deactivate the ventilation system, raise or lower the windows or sound the alarm).


Silence hasn't given a specific figure for the S04's trunk volume, but it does say it has enough space to carry several shopping bags, some luggage, or light sports equipment.

Here is another propaganda article about EV swappable battery technology being adopted in China.

They should really just put the power plant in the car, that way I can drive around as much as I want and generate electriticy and mechanical work whenever I need it. And since a power plant is so much cheaper and longer lasting than a battery, you can just only use the power plant and leave out the hybrid battery.
 
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I'm still pissed that Mazda cancelled bringing to the US the version of their electric car that had a rotary range extender. Like they didn't because the batterry only version didn't sell well, but no shit it didn't sell well it had an 70 mile range. the one with the range extender had a 600 mile range and averaged like 235mpg
 
I'm still pissed that Mazda cancelled bringing to the US the version of their electric car that had a rotary range extender. Like they didn't because the batterry only version didn't sell well, but no shit it didn't sell well it had an 70 mile range. the one with the range extender had a 600 mile range and averaged like 235mpg
But that's adding gas to an EV, or conversely adding a battery to a grenade.
 
Magically inventing tech that lets you load thousands of amp-hours into a battery in minutes isn't an infrastructure and regulatory problem, dude.
correct, it would take magic for EVs not be retarded gay dogshit cars
If Mr. Fusion and flying cars are invented, that would definitely convince people to get rid of GVs (AKA NVs: Normal Vehicles).
 
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