Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

[Uber driver reviewer]

I go to plenty of car meets and shows and have never seen women gush over a run of the mill Tesla. Maybe some kids might fawn over Tesla and then move onto the next shiny car.

Women don’t go to car meets unless they are looking to power level with their Bf/husband as a social / status event.

I don’t go to car meets. I just drive the damn thing. Car meets are for boomers and more recently software nerds paying $20k for a 1984 Plymouth laser turbo on bring a trailer.com so they can have synthwave night and pretend it’s 1987 and they are A 4 year old hanging out with their 16 year old sister again

Keep telling yourself that nigga

The smallest, cheapest, slowest Tesla will always be a gay choice.

Yeah. Women are retarded when it comes to cars. They just see the T and think it’s a model S plaid or something. I don’t know what to tell you. It’s flattering and all that but it’s not why I got it. The car does look badass with the windows tinted and large wheels.

I can see how it initially appeals to them that it signals that I have no use for practicality. That in itself is a luxury that women desire and pick up on right away.

I am considering a model S (or the cyber truck if it ever comes out) to compliment or replace the model 3 in 3-4 years. But at purchase, there was really no need for a larger car and a larger risk (I bought understanding the risk that many of the misgivings shared here could be real or significant, and I’d want to get out of the car and back into an ICE car, so the model 3 Lr was the way to go). Call it a cope if you want but I didn’t buy it because it was all I could afford. I also spent $4000+ on upgrading my electric service to 200A, and already set the car up with $2000 acceleration boost, $500 tints, a bunch of Tesla accessories and just a few days ago a $2800 set of snow tires and wheels. All cash except for the balance of the car after significant down payment. Implying I’m reaching to get recognition of a valued brand , you’d be very wrong. And you’d understand if you ran the numbers and saw how much I’m saving compared to if I had simply bought a new loaded Honda Accord or Toyota Camry. No markups at dealer either

If the EV didn’t work out, I’d have already sold it to one of the carvana type places and got into a certified pre owned Lexus GS-F or LS500.

Also, with the acceleration boost it’s faster than a model Y performance and the regular model X. Slow isn’t in the vocabulary here.

It will be fun in the future when wrongthinkers will be locked outside their house and cars without even the need to call a locksmith.

There is still a way in. But my boomer parents think the same thing. I told them I have a secret qanon asssigned code to subvert any wrongthink punishment and they seemed satisfied with that response.

If you do all of that then why are you on here simping for EVs? Real women also gush over pickups, not EVs. Unless they aren't true and honest women

Yeah I’ve got no use for women that gush over pickup trucks.

 

[TheBeanz]

Cut the chad larp, faggot

they're superficial cars, the interiors look cool enough but when you get hands on the pieces are flimsy, the leather feels shite, panel gaps were massive and there's just a load of gay gimmicks that Elon Musk forced onto the car because he's an ADHD retard who made it big. Most electric cars of recent years have been like this, I remember the BMW i8 feeling like crap on the inside as well.

Yeah. Women are retarded when it comes to cars. They just see the T and think it’s a model S plaid or something. I don’t know what to tell you. It’s flattering and all that but it’s not why I got it. The car does look badass with the windows tinted and large wheels.

So when you say this, you're agreeing with what I said above. A Tesla is a superficial trinket for trying to pick up dumb women who don't know any better.

I am considering a model S (or the cyber truck if it ever comes out) to compliment or replace the model 3 in 3-4 years.

Buy a Model S, it's the only good Tesla in my opinion. It looks good and performs well. If you can get hold of an older one with access to the supercharger network, even better. The Lexuses you mentioned are also left-field, interesting choices. Not for me though, I'd rather have a 7 Series or an S Class when it comes to high-end saloons

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

Cut the chad larp, faggot



So when you say this, you're agreeing with what I said above. A Tesla is a superficial trinket for trying to pick up dumb women who don't know any better.

Buy a Model S, it's the only good Tesla in my opinion. It looks good and performs well. If you can get hold of an older one with access to the supercharger network, even better. The Lexuses you mentioned are also left-field, interesting choices. Not for me though, I'd rather have a 7 Series or an S Class when it comes to high-end saloons

I’m agreeing that women are dumb. I didn’t say that was a rationalization for the car, or that it is irrational.


The 7 and S are nicer cars, but I prefer Japanese reliability and subtlety. The Gs-F isn’t the fastest in class, but the drivetrain (especially the one with the trick rear diff) are exceptional in terms of driving dynamics.

Base model S is likely. But giving this experience at least a few full years first,

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Women don’t go to car meets unless they are looking to power level with their Bf/husband as a social / status event.

I don’t go to car meets. I just drive the damn thing. Car meets are for boomers and more recently software nerds paying $20k for a 1984 Plymouth laser turbo on bring a trailer.com so they can have synthwave night and pretend it’s 1987 and they are A 4 year old hanging out with their 16 year old sister again

You have it reversed. Car meets imply something more impromptu and held in the evening hours. These tend to contain the younger crowd who scream "do a burnout," the young software money you mention and other petulant things like that. Car shows imply there's a level of organization done beforehand and usually occur in the morning to afternoon hours. These usually contain the boomer crowd that likes to bring out their Ranchero, Ford model A, and Porsche 930s. At these shows, you actually will, though rare, see women who bring out their classics.

I’m agreeing that women are dumb. I didn’t say that was a rationalization for the car, or that it is irrational.


The 7 and S are nicer cars, but I prefer Japanese reliability and subtlety. The Gs-F isn’t the fastest in class, but the drivetrain (especially the one with the trick rear diff) are exceptional in terms of driving dynamics.

Base model S is likely. But giving this experience at least a few full years first,

Lexus styling isn't exactly subtle and the GSF is a pig. Even the RCF is a pig on the track. Modern Benz and Audi sedans are probably the only ones that are still subtle.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

also spent $4000+ on upgrading my electric service to 200A, and already set the car up with $2000 acceleration boost, $500 tints, a bunch of Tesla accessories and just a few days ago a $2800 set of snow tires and wheels.

Congrats on spending extra money on you car-as-a-service.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

Congrats on spending extra money on you car-as-a-service.

Snow tires and tints are a service?

The car is a depreciating asset. Just like every other car put there.

I’ve been in the “drive a paid off well kept used car for ten years” crowd for a long time. I did all the things right to minimize my auto expense while maintaining an interesting used vehicle. I don’t need to do that anymore, and have moved on to trading in nice new cars every 2-3 years before they can depreciate too much. If I find something I really really like, I’ll keep it for a long time provided the car is robust enough to allow for that (last car was 18years old and running better that most new cars).

There is no service here. Go to a schedule a test drive at a Tesla store and you’ll understand. They are quite viable, and make more sense than gas powered garbage NPC cars most other companies are shitting out

 

[teriyakiburns]

Snow tires and tints are a service?

You paid 2k to have them flip a few bits in the car's computer in order to unlock the already existing performance. That's pretty much the definition of "as a service", especially given they can reach out and flip them back whenever they want, and have a track record of doing so.

 

[The Great Milenko]

Snow tires and tints are a service?

The car is a depreciating asset. Just like every other car put there.

I’ve been in the “drive a paid off well kept used car for ten years” crowd for a long time. I did all the things right to minimize my auto expense while maintaining an interesting used vehicle. I don’t need to do that anymore, and have moved on to trading in nice new cars every 2-3 years before they can depreciate too much. If I find something I really really like, I’ll keep it for a long time provided the car is robust enough to allow for that (last car was 18years old and running better that most new cars).

There is no service here. Go to a schedule a test drive at a Tesla store and you’ll understand. They are quite viable, and make more sense than gas powered garbage NPC cars most other companies are shitting out

The model 3 is a boring office cube on wheels. Since your 18 year old car is running great, did you have to replace the motor at 10 years? And congratulations, by the way, on your perpetual car payment if you are trading in every 2-3 years.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

The model 3 is a boring office cube on wheels. Since your 18 year old car is running great, did you have to replace the motor at 10 years? And congratulations, by the way, on your perpetual car payment if you are trading in every 2-3 years.

No fault collision totaled it my old Lexus. It never needed repair, just some OEM maintenance items.

The Tesla battery is warrantied for 8 years. Doubtful that it will fail catastrophicly at 8 let alone 10 years.

Between the money saved driving an old car, and my insurance payout, my down payment was substantial and my monthly payments are minimal. The gas savings pays for the minimal payments. Regarding payments in general, if you are not making payments to the bank, you are making payments to yourself in the form of savings for cash purchases of next vehicles. At the end of the day you have a monthly transportation cost, be it payments or saving for future single cash payment. I could have written a check for the whole car, but would prefer to stay liquid on the balance considering the low interest rate.

It’s a cool office cube on wheels. No regrets.

You paid 2k to have them flip a few bits in the car's computer in order to unlock the already existing performance. That's pretty much the definition of "as a service", especially given they can reach out and flip them back whenever they want, and have a track record of doing so.

No, a better example would be BMW requiring an annual subscription to enable apple car play. Acceleration boost is a one time payment for the life of the car. No different than buying a TRD supercharger from the Toyota dealer for Tacoma at delivery.

Yeah it’s $2000 to flip a few variables. But is that not the same thing as a software tune in a ICE vehicle? (Replace values in a table with slightly different values) But I don’t have to pay attention to the brand, type, season mix of gas used, and other parameters. Or go sit and watch some hipster with a laptop run my car on a dyno,. The $2k spent on the acceleration boost is the single best performance upgrade on the market for any car given the horsepower unlocked and simplicity


Tesla has not shut off a purchased acceleration boost upgrade for any reason.. No idea wtf you are talking about. There have been alarming headlines for other things “shut off”, but once you bother to read the article you then realize that Tesla at least had some some rationale for their decision even if you do not agree with it.




You guys have not driven these cars. Not for any appreciable amount of time, where you were not coping with “yeah buts….” The entire time.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Snow tires and tints are a service?

The car is a depreciating asset. Just like every other car put there.

I’ve been in the “drive a paid off well kept used car for ten years” crowd for a long time. I did all the things right to minimize my auto expense while maintaining an interesting used vehicle. I don’t need to do that anymore, and have moved on to trading in nice new cars every 2-3 years before they can depreciate too much. If I find something I really really like, I’ll keep it for a long time provided the car is robust enough to allow for that (last car was 18years old and running better that most new cars).

There is no service here. Go to a schedule a test drive at a Tesla store and you’ll understand. They are quite viable, and make more sense than gas powered garbage NPC cars most other companies are shitting out

The cheapest Tesla is out of the price range of most NPCs, so they have no choice but to get one of the many cheap Kia or Nissan. Enthusiasts are a different question. We have our odd preferences and Tesla doesn't fit the bill for many of them.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

now tires and tints are a service?

I can't tell if you are retarded or being deliberately dense. Considering you bought a hard good(model 3) that operates like it's a service and think EVs don't depreciate like a meteor, I'll just assume retarded. You don't own that piece of shit, you bought a license in perpetuity to drive it until the autopilot drives you into a back/side/front of a semi. That's what car-as-a service means. Like games-as-a-service but more expensive and for stupid people.

I know you like to act like a big swinging dick for reasons I can't begin to fathom, but you just aren't that cool and don't have as much money as you think you do. You financed a model 3.

I'm just a redneck that likes the smell of diesel a little too much, but I paid cash for my truck, and it's nicer than your silicon valley shit box. The best part? Nobody can reduce any of my fuel tanks by 33% with an OTA update.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

I'm not going to read the whole exchange but don't brag about owning a model 3... I know a first year programmer who just got a model 3 performance. You don't have as much money as you think you do.

 

[The Great Milenko]

You guys have not driven these cars. Not for any appreciable amount of time, where you were not coping with “yeah buts….” The entire time.

"FSD will be an automotive game changer."

It's not here yet., and it is promised every year. Their lead engineer on AI has left and Tesla closed their San Mateo office.

"Yeah, but..."

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

"FSD will be an automotive game changer."

It's not here yet., and it is promised every year. Their lead engineer on AI has left and Tesla closed their San Mateo office.

"Yeah, but..."

I don’t have FSD


Autopilot is sufficient.


We turned on FSD with a month long subscription for a long trip. It doesn’t work. No shit.


Is the implication that I love everything Elon shits out? No. These cars only became viable for the masses very recently despite being a 12 year old car company in terms of mass production. About 2019 was the turning point. But the road ahead is bright, and some form of full self driving will become a reality. (Likely when the cars begin speaking to each other across a mesh protocol). Then they can start sending info to other cars that doesn’t rely on own onboard sensors.

I'm not going to read the whole exchange but don't brag about owning a model 3... I know a first year programmer who just got a model 3 performance. You don't have as much money as you think you do.

I didn’t think I was bragging. This car is cheaper than literally any of the mid level SUV’s my neighbors buy. As you didn’t bother to read, I previously have noted my bewilderment that people are impressed by the car’s image or think it is expensive. Some in this very thread. I do have more money than a first year FANG programmer though, so I’m sadly not impressed that you got to sniff your hand after shaking his.

I can't tell if you are retarded or being deliberately dense. Considering you bought a hard good(model 3) that operates like it's a service and think EVs don't depreciate like a meteor, I'll just assume retarded. You don't own that piece of shit, you bought a license in perpetuity to drive it until the autopilot drives you into a back/side/front of a semi. That's what car-as-a service means. Like games-as-a-service but more expensive and for stupid people.

I know you like to act like a big swinging dick for reasons I can't begin to fathom, but you just aren't that cool and don't have as much money as you think you do. You financed a model 3.

I'm just a redneck that likes the smell of diesel a little too much, but I paid cash for my truck, and it's nicer than your silicon valley shit box. The best part? Nobody can reduce any of my fuel tanks by 33% with an OTA update.

I’m not surprised you can’t tell. But you also cannot tell me how buying tires and tints is any more of buying a service than it is for your ten gallon Texas truck. You’re not even able to tell me what this means. Acceleration boost stays with the car. I don’t have to subscribe to my steering wheel or it uploads itself back to California. But I bet you’d appreciate a subscription for DEF.

Teslas do not depreciate like a meteor. Depending on when you bought one in 2020-2021, people were making $8-10k selling their car to outfits like car max and carvanna, where used teslas sell for more than new ones. I don’t know or care about the values of other EV’s but they probably do suck to your misinformed point,

I did finance the balance after a substantial down payment. With 2% financing I’d be stupid not to. Is not staying liquid and paying cash for $75k deluxe redneck trucks some sort of working class hero flex ? No wonder truck guys are lining up on their knees to pay $5-10k markup at the dealer over msrp for a decent truck these days. It’s bragging rights over the last redneck that just swallowed the entire sales team.

The cheapest Tesla is out of the price range of most NPCs, so they have no choice but to get one of the many cheap Kia or Nissan. Enthusiasts are a different question. We have our odd preferences and Tesla doesn't fit the bill for many of them.

The average new car purchase last year was like $47k. My $55k Tesla is well within 1 standard deviation of that figure. Once you figure in the gas savings, it’s basically the same cost to drive as a decently loaded accord or Camry plus gas costs. Those are normal NPC cars by definition.

Enthusiasts need a daily driver too. Teslas fit that bill well. I’m considering a few different directions to go on a gas car to fulfill my enthusiast desires. But I don’t see me changing from an EV for a daily driver with how fast things are changing in that industry.


I’m giving you guys decent rationalizations and information from the perspective of an owner here, but you’re just past discussing the topic, instead moving to throwing insults that just don’t land. I’m sorry that my car makes you angy. You’ll have to learn to live with your anger and ignorance. We’re multiplying rapidly with no end in sight .

 

[The Great Milenko]

But the road ahead is bright, and some form of full self driving will become a reality. (Likely when the cars begin speaking to each other across a mesh protocol). Then they can start sending info to other cars that doesn’t rely on own onboard sensors.

"Some form"

Let me know in 2375.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

"Some form"

Let me know in 2375.

2375 USA

 

[teriyakiburns]

Yeah it’s $2000 to flip a few variables. But is that not the same thing as a software tune in a ICE vehicle?

"Combustion engines do it too" is cope and you know it.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I have no interest in cars whatsoever but my friend who is a huge car nerd bought an electric Porsche over the Tesla because he says the Tesla has "panel gaps you could drive a Honda through".

 

[Toolbox]

I have no interest in cars whatsoever but my friend who is a huge car nerd bought an electric Porsche over the Tesla because he says the Tesla has "panel gaps you could drive a Honda through".

Tesla has had a pretty good track record of poor build quality out the gate. I rate this mostly true.

 

[Pee Cola]

Fun fact: Tesla sold a total of 4 cars in Australia in July 2022. Toyota sold almost 20,000 cars in the same month.