US Texas to take up bill requiring Ten Commandments in every public school classroom - WTF is "Separation of Church & State"?

The Texas state Senate Education Committee this week will take up a bill requiring the Ten Commandments to be installed in every public school classroom, and another that would allow schools to hire pastors or chaplains instead of counselors.


“A public elementary or secondary school shall display in a conspicuous place in each classroom of the school a durable poster or framed copy of the Ten Commandments,” reads SB 1515.

The bill is extremely specific, mandating the size of the poster (at least 16 x 20), and that it be readable from anywhere in the classroom: “in a size and typeface that is legible to a person with average vision from anywhere in the classroom in which the poster or framed copy is displayed.”

The bill also includes the complete text of the Ten Commandments, in the version ordained by its author, state Senator Phil King, a Republican.

Senator King’s bill goes as far as to mandate that if a school classroom does not have the Ten Commandments posted, it “must” accept a copy if anyone donates one, and any extras “must” be offered for donation to any other school. It can also use taxpayer funds to purchase a copy.


NBC News senior investigative reporter Mike Hixenbaugh, who posted news of the bill on Monday, points out language in the Ten Commandments might be confusing to a first grader.


The Education Committee will also take up a bill “allowing school districts to employ chaplains to perform the duties of school counselors.”

The bill, SB 763, specifies that the chaplains do not need to be certified by the state education board.

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, believed to be gauging a run for the White House, as the state Attorney General won a U.S. Supreme Court case allowing the Ten Commandments to be displayed on the state capitol grounds.



A constitutional attorney for the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) in 2019 wrote allowing the Ten Commandments in classrooms would “impose biblical law on the state’s public schools,” and added: “Such displays are illegal.”

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[From The Uncanny Valley]

Thou shalt not kill? fascist

 

[Sithis]

Irrespective of its intent, having religious references within school grounds is crossing the line as it can be viewed as an endorsement of religion faith. Especially if it's mandated by state law.

Endorsement of religion =/= establishment of religion. Why do you think God is referenced so many times in our founding documents?

 

[ZazietheBeast]

Well, if it keeps the Californian locust out... I can make an exception for this. Yuri Bezmenov pointed out ages ago one of the best ways to undo subversion is to get people back into religion. But as uniting a state is insanely difficult with multiculturalism which demands the destruction of a popular religion, its either Christianity or state backed buttsex. The former is unironically supported by Whites, Blacks and Spics. The latter is supported by degenerates and degenerates in power.

I'll take the former.

 

[The Last Stand]

Endorsement of religion =/= establishment of religion. Why do you think God is referenced so many times in our founding documents?

Which documents? Because The Constitution does not reference God sans one line, which was intentional to establish the United States as a republic governed by men and law, not a "higher being" or religious deity.

Now The Declaration of Independence is, itself an official declaration written and drafted by men that some were devout in faith, others agnostic in practice. It's less of a notion that America is itself a religious nation, but founded on rebellion led by faith and willpower TO escape the King's rule.

 

[Overcast]

I see nothing wrong with this. Not sure if it'll ever get passed, but it's nice to dream. Lord knows we don't need more kids being indoctrinated into the globohomo regime.

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

Separation of church and state. Ffs, our country was founded on this.

 

[TheBigZee]

Looks like a state endorsement of Protestantism over Catholicism.

 

[Sithis]

Which documents? Because The Constitution does not reference God sans one line, which was intentional to establish the United States as a republic governed by men and law, not a "higher being" or religious deity.

Now The Declaration of Independence is, itself an official declaration written and drafted by men that some were devout in faith, others agnostic in practice. It's less of a notion that America is itself a religious nation, but founded on rebellion led by faith and willpower TO escape the King's rule.

So in your headcanon, the Declaration of Independence outright stating that men are endowed with rights by God and that God is the supreme judge of the universe is "less of a religious notion," but putting up posters of the Ten Commandments, recognized in multiple religions and the backbone behind many common laws in the Western world for thousands of years, is somehow crossing the line of establishing religion to you?

You gonna be one of those nutjobs who starts demanding money be changed from In God We Trust next?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Four of the Ten Commandments don't even have anything to do with ethics, just being instructions on religious observance. Waste of taxpayer money and attention.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

SEPARATION. OF CHURCH AND STATE.

Deus Vult.

 

[The Last Stand]

You gonna be one of those nutjobs who starts demanding money be changed from In God We Trust next?

Yes. I even petitioned for Hillary Clinton to be on the $50 bill.

 

[Pokemon Conquistador]

SEPARATION. OF CHURCH AND STATE.

There's no such thing. The Tranny Cult and CRT are nothing more than religious ideologies being pushed by Democrats and funded by taxpayer money. Just because their religion doesn't feature a God, doesn't mean it's bereft of metaphysical assumptions.

 

[Schpoots]

If they put a cross in every classroom it might just ward off the trannies.

 

[thog]

If they put a cross in every classroom it might just ward off the trannies.

Make them crucifixes and have them blessed by priests. They will spontaneously combust if they try and enter.

 

[Sithis]

Yes. I even petitioned for Hillary Clinton to be on the $50 bill.

If that ever happened I think it'd be one of the firmest signs yet that the antichrist walks the earth

 

[The Last Stand]

There's no such thing. The Tranny Cult and CRT are nothing more than religious ideologies being pushed by Democrats and funded by taxpayer money. Just because their religion doesn't feature a God, doesn't mean it's bereft of metaphysical assumptions.

You're not incorrect. I'm speaking against this on principle. It's just posturing that doesn't solve anything.

but putting up posters of the Ten Commandments, recognized in multiple religions and the backbone behind many common laws in the Western world for thousands of years, is somehow crossing the line of establishing religion to you?

The first two Commandments outright reference God.

 

[Starved Artist]

Dear lord, anoint me with your holy oils to protect our children from the heathens and the false apostles who claim to act in your name.
Grant me the ability to form my words into weapons that will carry forth true justice and free our country from these demons.
May we be joined hand in hand with others who walk a different path, but towards the same goal of righteousness.
For my faith may not be allowed to dwell in the halls of the school, my faith, the faith of all of your creations, no matter how you created them, shall form a wall to those premises , a shield the young from the rampant corruption of politics and degeneracy.

Also, armed security like Black and Hispanic schools wouldn't hurt either.

tl;dr ; Stop the bullshit. I'm tired of these retards who can't even PEMDAS. We need to stop fucking around and start educating everyone. Iron fist chinese style. It's the only fucking hope we have left.

 

[Sithis]

You're not incorrect. I'm speaking against this on principle. It's just posturing that doesn't solve anything.


The first two Commandments outright reference God.

So does our Declaration of Independence.
So do numerous state constitutions.
So does our money.

You and the atheists can seethe about it all you want but America was founded by Christians as a Christian nation under God. In times that we actually remembered that and stayed true to it we have flourished. In times like now when retards try to make the Almighty's name a curse word, we are growing ever weaker.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

SEPARATION. OF CHURCH AND STATE.

You're right....and I just don't care anymore. All atheism has achieved is allow a different style of insanity infect the culture which is nothing but destructive. I do not think the average person can live without a myth.

 

[The Last Stand]

So does our Declaration of Independence.
So do numerous state constitutions.
So does our money.

You and the atheists can seethe about it all you want but America was founded by Christians as a Christian nation under God. In times that we actually remembered that and stayed true to it we have flourished. In times like now when retards try to make the Almighty's name a curse word, we are growing ever weaker.

The Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution do not therefore represent competing views of the existence of a Supreme Being or its role in American political life. They are two sides of the same coin. When read together, the Declaration and Constitution tell us that the people’s rights are divine in origin, sacred and unalienable, while governments are human in origin, answerable to the people and dependent entirely on their consent.

May I suggest you read the establishment clause of the Constitution? It outright disputes your claim that America is a "Christian nation."

The Establishment Clause acts as a double security, prohibiting both religious abuse of government and political control of religion.[2] Under it the federal government of the United States as well as the governments of all U.S. states and U.S. territories are prohibited from establishing or sponsoring religion.[2]