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Was listening to Hall of the Mountain King the other night while out for a walk. Great album. Dead Winter Dead was the first album I'd heard from them, but never cared for it or their orchestral stuff in general. And Zak Stevens is a boring vocalist.
 
Was listening to Hall of the Mountain King the other night while out for a walk. Great album. Dead Winter Dead was the first album I'd heard from them, but never cared for it or their orchestral stuff in general. And Zak Stevens is a boring vocalist.
Yeah, opinions tend to be pretty divided, I've noticed. I like Zak's voice better than Jon's, but Jon is more distinct - Zak could be any number of choirboy-voiced prog singers, but Jon is Jon and there's no mistaking it.

I was a big Yngwie/CoB/Nightwish dork as a kid, so I tended to like their symphonic stuff more than the early albums (and TSO more than Savatage). It's weird seeing my aunts and grandparents shelling out hundreds of dollars to watch TSO every year, though, especially since none of them know what a Savatage is.
 
Yeah, opinions tend to be pretty divided, I've noticed. I like Zak's voice better than Jon's, but Jon is more distinct - Zak could be any number of choirboy-voiced prog singers, but Jon is Jon and there's no mistaking it.

I was a big Yngwie/CoB/Nightwish dork as a kid, so I tended to like their symphonic stuff more than the early albums (and TSO more than Savatage). It's weird seeing my aunts and grandparents shelling out hundreds of dollars to watch TSO every year, though, especially since none of them know what a Savatage is.

I'm probably a bit biased over who is better between the two since "Edge of Thorns" is my favorite Savatage album but I agree that Jon voice in his prime was really something

Sadly He's now in jail for DUI and drug possession so who knows if and when they will ever record a new album
 
I'm probably a bit biased over who is better between the two since "Edge of Thorns" is my favorite Savatage album but I agree that Jon voice in his prime was really something

Sadly He's now in jail for DUI and drug possession so who knows if and when they will ever record a new album
There's something really darkly ironic about Jon Oliva being arrested for DUI given what happened to his brother.
 

The ex-wife of Samoth of Emperor, Andrea Meyer, was one of the victims in the Norwegian archery shooting. She mostly made dark ambient and folk music and apparently Samoth guested on a few of her albums. Definitely some truly bad luck on her part to get caught up in that.
 

The ex-wife of Samoth of Emperor, Andrea Meyer, was one of the victims in the Norwegian archery shooting. She mostly made dark ambient and folk music and apparently Samoth guested on a few of her albums. Definitely some truly bad luck on her part to get caught up in that.
On the one hand, that's terrible news. My heart goes out to Ms Meyer, all her loved ones, and her fans.

On the other hand, that's a pretty fucking metal way to die.


-edit- this is her top-ranked track on Youtube currently:


She was also an early member/associate of Cradle of Filth (sang backing vocals on "Principle of Evil Made Flesh", and according to Dani Filth, presided over their "rituals", whatever the hell that means), and sang on the Satyricon album, "Nemesis Divina".
 
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What websites do you guys use for finding new music or looking at reviews? I use Sputnikmusic dot com but the faggots on /mu/ insist that Rate Your Music is better, but RYM are also faggots for not allowing VPNs to use their website, and I'm not convinced that they are so much better for categorizing and keeping track of albums that it's worth turning off my VPN just to use their website. There is also the GNOD music project at https://www.gnoosic.com/ which is cool. You enter a few band you like and it suggests other bands like it based on user input. A machine learning type thing I think. They have the same program for other stuff like Art and Literature at https://www.gnod.com/
 

What Are You Doing Here?: A Black Woman's Life and Liberation in Heavy Metal Paperback – Illustrated, January 8, 2013

The critics are unanimous

"In her debut book, music journalist and hardcore metal devotee Laina Dawes uncovers black women’s voices and stories of participation in punk and metal."—Vice


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"Excellent"—About.com


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"As the title suggests, Dawes has a compellingly idiosyncratic tale to tell about cultural identity and personal passion…[her] understandable difficulty is precisely what makes her struggle interesting."—The Atlantic


"Dawes has done the metal scene a great service...an important addition to every metal fan’s bookshelf"—MSN.com


"Laina Dawes’ What Are You Doing Here? is a strikingly more powerful, penetrating, and passionate look at metal than the one written by the guy [Tony Iommi] who arguably invented the genre...brave, engaging, and unique"—The Onion A/V Club


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"The book is half love letter to both black women who have paved the way and continue to pave the way, as well as the music that brought them there, and half unflinching real talk of the all unfortunate actualities of the casual to the not-so-casual racism that is embedded with the scene."—Persephone Magazine



"This book needs to be mandatory reading for every new metal head."—Metal Army America


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“The women presented in What Are You Doing Here? are courageous, honest and without pretense—just like the best metal that ultimately unites them.”—Albert Mudrian, editor-in-chief, Decibel


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happy Halloween

 
What websites do you guys use for finding new music or looking at reviews? I use Sputnikmusic dot com but the faggots on /mu/ insist that Rate Your Music is better, but RYM are also faggots for not allowing VPNs to use their website, and I'm not convinced that they are so much better for categorizing and keeping track of albums that it's worth turning off my VPN just to use their website. There is also the GNOD music project at https://www.gnoosic.com/ which is cool. You enter a few band you like and it suggests other bands like it based on user input. A machine learning type thing I think. They have the same program for other stuff like Art and Literature at https://www.gnod.com/
Spotify's radio feature gets ya spread around pretty well
 
Searched this thread for mentions of Carnivore and found one based guy linking their full length album "Carnivore" but I happen to be a big fan of one of their first tapes called "Nuclear Warriors". It has maybe my favorite album art ever. The wildcat looks so psychotically aggressive, I love it. Here it is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ku6FHjRl4
carnivore nuclear warriors album art.jpg
 
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