The 1619 project. - An actual college graduate with a History Degree analyzises this shit heap

[mindlessobserver]

Hurray for me. I have institutional privilige. A Bachelors of History from (UNNAMED) university. I shall now delve into the recently Pullitzer Prize award winning 1619. May god have mercy on my soul.

The 1619 Project

American slavery began 400 years ago this month. This is referred to as the country’s original sin, but it is more than that: It is the country’s true origin.

www.nytimes.com

In August of 1619, a ship appeared on this horizon, near oint omfort, a coastal port in the nglish colony of irginia. t carried more than 20 enslaved Africans, who were sold to the colonists.

Right out the fucking gate, in the very preamble, this shit is wrong. A Portuguese ship, blown off course from its destination IN BRAZIL, ended up in Virginia with a bunch of west Africans on it. The Virginia Colony of 1619 was a very marginal place and they had little to offer. The Portuguese ship traded the West Africans to the colony in exchange for supplies to return to Portugal. As indentured servants. At this time Slavery was a product of Portugal and Spain, not England and the English colonists had no idea what to do with these people except to put them to work the same way they did WHITE indentured servants. 7 years forced labor, followed by emancipation.

No aspect of the country that would be formed here has been untouched by the years of slavery that followed.

Except virtually 3/4ths of the country. I guess. Even in Virginia slavery was not the primary economic mode. This came later in the 18th century, and primarily in deep southern America. The other part of America untouched by Slavery ended up fighting a war to end it. So I guess you could say it was touched by Slavery, but I don't think this is the point trying to be made.

On the 400th anniversary of this fateful moment, it is finally time to tell our story truthfully.

the entire paragraph preceding this statement were lies though. But okay. Lets hear the truth now....

Our democracy’s founding ideals were false when they were written. black Americans have fought to make them true.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/black-history-american-democracy.html

Tell that to the White Americans at Gettysburg.



lol, could not CNTRL-V this part. I wonder why. American Capitalism was represented by the Union, with massive factories staffed by free men who churned out massive amounts of war material to arm free men to make slaves free. The Plantations were an example of failed economic models. Feudalism and Mercantalism. These were introduced to the New World by the Kings of Spain and France as a means to extend the power of their monarachies and nobility to new lands. Capitalism, wielded by the Union Government, used Free Men, to empower Free Soldiers, to Free the slaves. Fucking commies.

Website goes into claims that sites of slave trading are forgotten. Derp. Shouldn't they be?

Myths about physical racial differences were used to justify slavery — and are still believed by doctors today.

Essay by Linda Villarosa

Holy selective bias batman. And how exactly are these myths justified in American policy today? At all?

America holds onto an undemocratic assumption from its founding: that some people deserve more power than others.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/republicans-racism-african-americans.html

Lies.

For centuries, black music has been the sound of artistic freedom. o wonder everybody’s always stealing it.
Essay by Wesley Morris

Lies again. Wtf, this is nothing but unsubstantiated statements of fact. What is there to argue about? Where is the research?

I‘ slide my ring finger from Senegal to South arolina & feel the ocean separate a million families.’
From a poem on the Middle Passage by Clint Smith. Read more original literary works created for the 1619 Project.

Okay. Slavery Bad. How profound.

What does a traffic jam in Atlanta have to do with segregation? Quite a lot.
Essay by Kevin Kruse

Oh good, something I can actually sink my teeth into. This refers to the fact that interstate highways, particularly Interstate 95, were guided through historically black neighborhoods, in some cases bifurcating them in half. There is actually a racial injustice behind this that needs to be addressed, but its an issue that is truly only important to people along the I-95 corridor. Among Historians, Interstate 95 is the route of Americas shame. Not only is it the highway of segregation, but its also the one where the people who built it needed to set aside special areas for sorting human remains. Especially through Virginia. The amount of corpses the builders of I-95 found in unmarked graves Virginia were staggering. All products of the civil war. Final irony that it would also be used as a tool of racial segregation. Shameful yes, but not the whole story. And certainly not something you can paint THE ENTIRE COUNTRY with.




lol, another thing I could not Cntl-C. Its almost like the Copy/Paste function gets disabled for the overtly commie talking points. This quote is not even a lie. Its moronic.




Another quote I could not cntl-c. Its also...uh...something. I guess.






I am starting to notice a theme here, with statements that I cannot cntrl C and have to screenshot instead. In this case I am actually going to address this stupidity because there is something I can actually address. America, and English Colonies, accounted for very little of the Sugar trade. If consequences for slavery with regards to sugar need to be made, they need to be made before Madrid, Lisbon, and Paris, not London and Washington DC. The English Colonies largely never dealt in sugar, and neither did England outside its holdings in Jamaica. Haiti, the Heart of French sugar production in the 18th century, had a greater GDP then all 13 of the English North American colonies COMBINED, and it did not hold a candle to Portugals holdings in Brazil. So much so in fact that of the ENTIRE Atlantic slave trade, 90% of it went to South America and the Caribbean. Not to North America.

Next quote is cntl-c restricted too.



Oh boy. There is indeed a wealth gap. This statement refers to policies of restricting black families from acquiring property. The part about "redlining" is particularly poignant. Want to know the history of that? Of course you do. You are listening to a student of history ramble about this nonsense. Redlining refers to the policies of the city of Chicago, run by the DEMOCRATS to divide city property up by race, using the light rail Red Line as the demarcation point between where they would allow for decent construction for white people and everyone else. This policy was incidentally, supported by the National democratic party which was the party of racial segregation. Red Lining policies were not enforced outside democrat run cities it should be noted, and rural African Americans were free to purchase property if they wanted it, leading to a very marked cultural and social divide. Unfortunately, rural African Americans constitute a minority within a minority, largely due to many of the African American share croppers moving to Democratic party run cities hoping for a better life and instead ending up segregated in ghettos and housing projects due to red lining and Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society.

Okay

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Oh good, I can cntrl-C again

A re-education is necessary.

Oh no. Never mind, I take it back. I am sorry, do I really need to go into the history of the term "re-Education?" Because I really don't want too. Suffice to say, this term killed more people then Hitlers term "master race". By orders of magnitude.



At this point I think its probably a good thing most Americans have not learned this "history".




Okay.

Would you like to know more? Well you need to pay the New York Times for the privlige. Apparently all of these sweeping generalized statements have an entire article behind the pay wall. I suggest you save your money.

 

[ZombiefiedFerret]

ok

 

[contradiction of terns]

Redlining happened in California as well, though it was on a private basis. I've seen CCNR/HOA documents that specified no blacks.

You'd have to source who was running the place in the 70s to know if it was the Dems or not. I'm not sure it even matters beyond making it hilarious that Californians act so high and mighty about SocJus issues.

 

[heathercho]

Australia : Convicts : 1788.
A mere 232 years ago.
Convicts worked hard after being imprisoned by a system that discriminated on basis of socio-economic standing to transport people against their will to an abo filled hellhole, for back breaking labour, for no reason other than to clean up the overpopulated and poverty stricken streets of the United Kingdom and exploit the poor to build a new colony in a far away land.

These people didn't want to leave their families. They didn't want to leave their homes. They were forcibly send to a dry, abo filled hellhole to set it up for others.

When they were freed, just like Africans, they worked hard, despite adversity. They kept working hard and created a country from literally nothing. They fought for it in small battles, nothing like the American civil war. They didn't slaughter the Abo population, they fought them when issues came up.
Then the Chinese came not long after for the gold rush. They worked hard, despite adversity and meshed into the society.
Then, after the wars, Australia took in refugees - mostly Italian and Greek. They faced adversity and worked hard and became meshed into the society.
Then you had Vietnam and the Vietnamese came from a warzone to a new country. They faced adversity but worked hard and became meshed into the society.

All these people prospered through hard work and time.

Something African Americans in the ghetto seem to think are a white man's invention.

That's the answer to the 1619 project.

 

[Liber Pater]

At least in the days of restrictive covenants, you actually had middle/upper middle class whites, working class whites, and working class blacks living in the same cities. The end of freedom of association in housing did not mean integration so much as it did segregation via white flight (and gentrification/using price as a de facto color bar), which is arguably more destructive in the long run. Black Wall Street survived the riots, but it didn't survive integration
Downvote me if you want, but stop giving in to the 1619 left-wing talking points about how places like Orania are the REAL reason for dysfunction in black communities (and not fatherlessness, low-IQ, or any other contributing factors).

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Here are interviews with Gordon S. Wood, historian of the American War of Independence and James McPherson, historian of the American Civil War at the World Socialist Web Site, on the 1619 Project.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Black Wall Street survived the riots, but it didn't survive integration

Do you have any resources regarding this assertion?

 

[Wallace]

Just saw an article on this here.

TL; DR: The 1619 Project is bad history facilitated by bad journalism, given accolades by bad actors who appear to care nothing for the truth, and despite this, it was rewarded with a Pulitzer.

 

[Shield Breaker]

1619 is grievance porn for the hood rats and white progressives who treat us like pets.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

1619 is nothing more than the Birth of a Nation for black americans. Patrice O'neal made a point that he wanted to view whites as the jews view hitler; the enemy. They want a narrative that justifies their revolutionary mindset. People like Nicole Hannah-Jones have no doubt read books by Frantz Fanon, Du Bois, and other black thinkers. She internalizes the belief that the only way for black to succeed is for a revolution. Displaying a history that argues that the current system in the U.S. is entirely built upon slavery justifies upending it. It presents black as artistic, hard-working beings that have never had a chance to succeed. A romaniticization of the brutality of slavery as a sacrifice that will ultimately lead to the political, economic, and social emancipation of the black race.

Which means that this is going to end badly for all involved. The neglect of individual input into maintaining poverty is going to fuck up these peoples' lives if they get what they want.

 

[Jaimas]

Liberty Prime was right.

 

[Calandrino]

I didn't need to be told that the 1619 Project is fucking retarded but I am still coming to terms with how "real" this is supposed to be. Like, I thought it was just the JYT writing a couple of flaky articles that nobody would take seriously but apparently these retcons are actually meant to be canon to the LGBTQEU? Democracy was invented by Black slaves and standardized tests are modern day Jim Crow... this is going to be taught in schools? I was counting on voices in the mainstream media to debunk this stuff, not Styx and Ben Shapiro and web 1.0 sites.

 

[William Tell Underpass]

Damn, reconnect with your roots, emphasize the importance of the family, do business in your own community to benefit your people, protect your community from hostile external forces, importance of ethnic and religious history and things you can take pride in.
Its always nice to get a reminder that white liberals have to deal with the most 1950s conservative type group of people in america.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

1619 is nothing more than the Birth of a Nation for black americans. Patrice O'neal made a point that he wanted to view whites as the jews view hitler; the enemy. They want a narrative that justifies their revolutionary mindset. People like Nicole Hannah-Jones have no doubt read books by Frantz Fanon, Du Bois, and other black thinkers. She internalizes the belief that the only way for black to succeed is for a revolution. Displaying a history that argues that the current system in the U.S. is entirely built upon slavery justifies upending it. It presents black as artistic, hard-working beings that have never had a chance to succeed. A romaniticization of the brutality of slavery as a sacrifice that will ultimately lead to the political, economic, and social emancipation of the black race.

Which means that this is going to end badly for all involved. The neglect of individual input into maintaining poverty is going to fuck up these peoples' lives if they get what they want.

Nicole Hannah-Jones should have read Booker T. Washington instead. Because the revolution they wish for, is like the Haitian revolution of 1804, some said it was successeful but at what price? Imagine what Haiti would be today if they did its revolution without killing all the whites and mullatoes?

 

[2021Murder]

Tl;dr when has proving a coon wrong ever worked?

Western civilization always sides aganist itself, its been this way since at least the days of enlightenment. John adams would have agreed with this 1619 view of history because even he wouldnt have contradicted a coon.

You cant pull a jon stewart and destroy someone with "facts and logic" the left doesnt work on the even playing field they kept saying they did.

Youre wasting your time.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

Australia : Convicts : 1788.
A mere 232 years ago.
Convicts worked hard after being imprisoned by a system that discriminated on basis of socio-economic standing to transport people against their will to an abo filled hellhole, for back breaking labour, for no reason other than to clean up the overpopulated and poverty stricken streets of the United Kingdom and exploit the poor to build a new colony in a far away land.

These people didn't want to leave their families. They didn't want to leave their homes. They were forcibly send to a dry, abo filled hellhole to set it up for others.

When they were freed, just like Africans, they worked hard, despite adversity. They kept working hard and created a country from literally nothing. They fought for it in small battles, nothing like the American civil war. They didn't slaughter the Abo population, they fought them when issues came up.
Then the Chinese came not long after for the gold rush. They worked hard, despite adversity and meshed into the society.
Then, after the wars, Australia took in refugees - mostly Italian and Greek. They faced adversity and worked hard and became meshed into the society.
Then you had Vietnam and the Vietnamese came from a warzone to a new country. They faced adversity but worked hard and became meshed into the society.

All these people prospered through hard work and time.

Something African Americans in the ghetto seem to think are a white man's invention.

That's the answer to the 1619 project.

Wish that was still our current history, the ghettos in Melbourne have spread to other states, and the push for people with their hands out because slavery, are ever increasing and being moved into, what used to be extremely safe areas.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

Nicole Hannah-Jones should have read Booker T. Washington instead. Because the revolution they wish for, is like the Haitian revolution of 1804, some said it was successeful but at what price? Imagine what Haiti would be today if they did its revolution without killing all the whites and mullatoes?

Haiti’s current situation has a lot more to do with the exploitative institutions it had as a colony than the killing of whites and mullatoes.

Extractive institutions that Haiti and other Latin American had from their colonial past meant that the elites focused on profit over development. This has lead to multiple periods of revolutions and dictatorships that have stalled the growth of Haiti. Haiti has only been an official democracy for several decades and that is tenuous at best.

The US has remained a democracy for over 200 years, Costa Rica for almost 80, and Mexico technically for a century. And American countries that have turned to democracy has seen economic growth that was never possible before. It turns out when you listen to the people, everyone benefits.

Haiti could have been a white ethno-state and the country would still be in shit because the leaders would have refused to listen to the peasantry.

And the leaders of any racial revolution today would end up the same. They’ve already convinced themselves that they represent the “people” so any objection would be considered illegitimate.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I didn't need to be told that the 1619 Project is fucking retarded but I am still coming to terms with how "real" this is supposed to be. Like, I thought it was just the JYT writing a couple of flaky articles that nobody would take seriously but apparently these retcons are actually meant to be canon to the LGBTQEU? Democracy was invented by Black slaves and standardized tests are modern day Jim Crow... this is going to be taught in schools? I was counting on voices in the mainstream media to debunk this stuff, not Styx and Ben Shapiro and web 1.0 sites.

I think that's why I find it so obnoxious. This entire things reads like Joseph Smiths version of early American history. Its pure religious fantasy not based on any objective reality. There are no primary sources backing up the claims, which is a REQUIREMENT for any historical essay. All it is is the deranged musings of current year "philosophers" making sweeping claims and generalizations with absolutely nothing to back it up beyond the emphatic statement that its "heresy" to disagree with them.

This entire thing is essentially the Talmud of Woke, the Commentaries of Sahih-Al Bukhari for Critical Race Theory or the Book of Nikole Hanna Jones. Its not meant to be studied and commented on. Its meant for rote memorization, preaching and indoctrination. Like any religious text. Yet most Historians, especially the in "elite" institutions are so pants shittingly terrified of calling this garbage out. Because like good little Dhimmi's, they know the consequences of defying the word of God as issued by the faithful will result in their destruction.

 

[Jaimas]

I think that's why I find it so obnoxious. This entire things reads like Joseph Smiths version of early American history. Its pure religious fantasy not based on any objective reality. There are no primary sources backing up the claims, which is a REQUIREMENT for any historical essay. All it is is the deranged musings of current year "philosophers" making sweeping claims and generalizations with absolutely nothing to back it up beyond the emphatic statement that its "heresy" to disagree with them.

This entire thing is essentially the Talmud of Woke, the Commentaries of Sahih-Al Bukhari for Critical Race Theory or the Book of Nikole Hanna Jones. Its not meant to be studied and commented on. Its meant for rote memorization, preaching and indoctrination. Like any religious text. Yet most Historians, especially the in "elite" institutions are so pants shittingly terrified of calling this garbage out. Because like good little Dhimmi's, they know the consequences of defying the word of God as issued by the faithful will result in their destruction.

All you really need to do is show some of NK Jemisin's Twitter feed, and remind whoever you're showing it to that this is someone whose entire career as both a writer and activist can be surmised by a single 34-second video clip, and whose open bigotry makes one pine for the glory days of Al Sharpton.

Bigotry is bigotry, and it doesn't matter how many times they try to re-define racism so that only Whites can be guilty of it.

 

[Syaoran Li]

The 1619 Project is historically inaccurate as fuck but it did teach me one thing...

The 1619 Project did not teach me a damn thing about American history but it did teach me that Sheriff McClelland did nothing wrong.

Shitposting aside, I'm curious what's going to happen if the Woke Left really has overextended themselves and that 2020 is their "last stand" before a backlash? If that's true, I'm actually kind of concerned for the sane Blacks who didn't go along with this BLM insanity. They're the kind of people who are most likely to branded as Uncle Toms as it is, and if the Woke Left falls, they could also get lumped in with the BLM wackos.

Expect a lot of self-segregation away from blacks as a key feature of the 2020's and 2030's, and since BLM has violently attacked Whites, Asians, and even Latinos (the last of which are primed to be the majority or at least plurality in the coming decades) this wouldn't be strictly a White and Black thing either.