The 1619 project. - An actual college graduate with a History Degree analyzises this shit heap

[Jaimas]

The 1619 Project is historically inaccurate as fuck but it did teach me one thing...

The 1619 Project did not teach me a damn thing about American history but it did teach me that Sheriff McClelland did nothing wrong.

Shitposting aside, I'm curious what's going to happen if the Woke Left really has overextended themselves and that 2020 is their "last stand" before a backlash? If that's true, I'm actually kind of concerned for the sane Blacks who didn't go along with this BLM insanity. They're the kind of people who are most likely to branded as Uncle Toms as it is, and if the Woke Left falls, they could also get lumped in with the BLM wackos.

Expect a lot of self-segregation away from blacks as a key feature of the 2020's and 2030's, and since BLM has violently attacked Whites, Asians, and even Latinos (the last of which are primed to be the majority or at least plurality in the coming decades) this wouldn't be strictly a White and Black thing either.

I don't think you need to worry too much.

BLM has successfully alienated Black People to an almost absurd degree. In much the same way that the harshest critics of open borders are legal immigrants, the harshest critics of BLM are other black people. You'll never hear of it on the news or anything, but fact is that if you even tangentially disagree with the party line, BLM considers you as worthy of destruction as everyone else, and many black people see right through this shit. As it's directly tied to groups like ANTIFA, BLM has never cleaned house, either, which means its ongoing incapacity to stay out of trouble will never, ever get better.

 

[The-Patriarchy]

I don't think you need to worry too much.

BLM has successfully alienated Black People to an almost absurd degree. In much the same way that the harshest critics of open borders are legal immigrants, the harshest critics of BLM are other black people. You'll never hear of it on the news or anything, but fact is that if you even tangentially disagree with the party line, BLM considers you as worthy of destruction as everyone else, and many black people see right through this shit. As it's directly tied to groups like ANTIFA, BLM has never cleaned house, either, which means its ongoing incapacity to stay out of trouble will never, ever get better.

"We are trained Marxists" - BLM leadership outright declared that they intend to overthrow the US government and replace it with yet another "Marxist Utopia" destined to be either a miserable failure like every other state that went full communist, or morph into an Orwellian totalitarian nightmare like China's Communist Party.

I suspect that most american blacks just want a fair shake and a way out of poverty for those stuck there- which is pretty much the same thing most sane people of every creed, color, or culture want.

In fact, these Marxist BLM leaders are not even the original BLM- The "Black Lives Matter Foundation" predates them- and is a registered nonprofit in California that seeks to achieve unity between the people and the police ostensibly to head off the unneccessary death of black people at the hands of police- as opposed to the "F the Police, burn the system" attitude of the more visible BLM movement.

 

[King Ghidorah]

1619 is nothing more than the Birth of a Nation for black americans. Patrice O'neal made a point that he wanted to view whites as the jews view hitler; the enemy. They want a narrative that justifies their revolutionary mindset. People like Nicole Hannah-Jones have no doubt read books by Frantz Fanon, Du Bois, and other black thinkers. She internalizes the belief that the only way for black to succeed is for a revolution. Displaying a history that argues that the current system in the U.S. is entirely built upon slavery justifies upending it. It presents black as artistic, hard-working beings that have never had a chance to succeed. A romaniticization of the brutality of slavery as a sacrifice that will ultimately lead to the political, economic, and social emancipation of the black race.

Which means that this is going to end badly for all involved. The neglect of individual input into maintaining poverty is going to fuck up these peoples' lives if they get what they want.

So this is literally advocating for the "black empire" that birth of a nation used to fearmonger white southerners way back when?

 

[Imperial Citizen]

So this is literally advocating for the "black empire" that birth of a nation used to fearmonger white southerners way back when?

In a way, yes. Birth of a Nation was a romanticization of the South, portraying the Klan as noble heroes against the scourge of emancipated blacks.

1619 is a romanticization of the suffering of slavery and lambasting of the evil United States of America. The decent and kind blacks were abused by the savage white people, taking their art, culture, and history from them. If we only took control of our lives, be given the reparations we are owed for generations of suffering, then we will be free. These people truly believe that slavery is the bedrock foundation of the United States and that their suffering must be acknowledged and legitimized.

Now, I do not believe that they want a "black empire". More likely is that the empowerment of black people will make the United States a more "just" society. Look Hannah-Jones's comments about how black people came to the Americas first and did not enslave them or Nick Cannon's idea of "melanin compassion". They believe that there is an innate goodness in black people that whites lack. And when the narrative around race is keenly focused on white vs. black, it will generate binaric morality comparisons.

 

[OttoWest]

Just saw an article on this here.

TL; DR: The 1619 Project is bad history facilitated by bad journalism, given accolades by bad actors who appear to care nothing for the truth, and despite this, it was rewarded with a Pulitzer.

They gave Janet Cooke a Pulitzer.

It’s a shame Wesley Morris has gone full-on retard since joining the NYT. He used to be a good film critic and fun podcaster. TDS every damned time.

 

[MrJokerRager]

At least we saw the GOP finally deal with this even though there is a change Biden might win and this would have been all for nothing.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Which means that this is going to end badly for all involved. The neglect of individual input into maintaining poverty is going to fuck up these peoples' lives if they get what they want.

Going to? For the ones who aren't a part of the grifter elite of their movement, it already has been their whole lives. Look at the the three guys Kyle of House Ritten shot and the lives they lead that brought them to that moment. Look at how they chose to charge a man with a rifle, and how the survivor and all his pals blame Rittenhouse and "the system" for their own suicidal retardation. I know they were all white, but they have the same belief system. It just goes to show that this goes beyond race.

The 1619 Project is historically inaccurate as fuck but it did teach me one thing...

The 1619 Project did not teach me a damn thing about American history but it did teach me that Sheriff McClelland did nothing wrong.

Shitposting aside, I'm curious what's going to happen if the Woke Left really has overextended themselves and that 2020 is their "last stand" before a backlash? If that's true, I'm actually kind of concerned for the sane Blacks who didn't go along with this BLM insanity. They're the kind of people who are most likely to branded as Uncle Toms as it is, and if the Woke Left falls, they could also get lumped in with the BLM wackos.

Expect a lot of self-segregation away from blacks as a key feature of the 2020's and 2030's, and since BLM has violently attacked Whites, Asians, and even Latinos (the last of which are primed to be the majority or at least plurality in the coming decades) this wouldn't be strictly a White and Black thing either.

Despite the paranoid oppression fap fantasies of the far left (and increasingly the left as a whole) most ordinary white Americans don't want to go full 1488. For now. Hell, even a large chunk of the dissident right doesn't want to take things that far. The best thing for sane blacks is for this stuff (the mass rioting, the communist militias, the blatant racist, anti-white and communist propaganda in our highest institutions) to start rolling back after 2020. The longer it goes on and increases in intensity, the more the backlash is going to build in size and intensity until the damn bursts. But for now the majority of ordinary people want peace, not revenge.

 

[mindlessobserver]

At least we saw the GOP finally deal with this even though there is a change Biden might win and this would have been all for nothing.

So glad the Republicans have woken up to the danger behind nonsense like this. If it gains widespread traction, shit like this will be used as moral justification for at best, racial and ideologically based discrimination. At worst it could be used to just start killing people for wrong think. Conservatives really can't keep their heads in the sand about the threat Intersectionalism holds to the Republic. Its stopped being some crazy thing blue haired college students obsess over and is now literally setting our cities on fire.

If you have kids who go to Public school, make sure they are forewarned because they WILL run into this shit. Keep an eye on what gets sent back for homework too. This should be done anyway, but doubly true now. If you are still active in a church, try and wake up the boomer Priest to it, because this stuff is as much a threat to the faith as any of the worst heresies.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

If you are still active in a church, try and wake up the boomer Priest to it, because this stuff is as much a threat to the faith as any of the worst heresies.

Also, pay attention to what your priest is already preaching because it has infected the churches. Some denominations are worse than others.

 

[Lemmingwise]

They want a narrative that justifies their revolutionary mindset.

More like they want a narrative to be justified in looting.

 

[Josterman]

Man this thread needs dusting I got my posts from the mega thread and here they are

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-1619-project-megathread.69549/

 

[Josterman]

Got this bitch

 

[Shidoen]

Our country's only original sin was allowing niggers to exist in its vicinity in the first place.

 

[Josterman]

Our country's only original sin was allowing niggers to exist in its vicinity in the first place.

Get the featherston option with population reduction of both white and black if you want to then again we got White nationalist liberals like Kate/imspeaking13 teaching and encourgoing bad history such as the 1619

 

[Cool Dog]

Its funny that the most prestigious burger journalism award has the name of a famous yellow journo that published lies and slander just to sell papers

 

[Josterman]

Its funny that the most prestigious burger journalism award has the name of a famous yellow journo that published lies and slander just to sell papers

Lied about a genocide and WMDs too don’t forget plus I found a CULT member
i reported on the cunt Before her name is Kelly
user Namer for Twitter KellDA

 

[Josterman]

More from Kate the kunt aka Imspeaking13 the City Urban Liberal Type

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The 1619 Project may be bullshit but the one thing I like about it is that it does say America began in the colonial period, because that's true. I feel like the American Revolution gets kind of misused, it's the birth of the American government of course but American people were already in the country for a long time before that happened, the roots of the culture and what an ethnic American is were already there. But at the same time, American civil religion requires us to suck off the Founding Fathers 24/7 and the Eternal Mick/Guido/Beaner doesn't want to even acknowledge the existence of an American culture much less ethnicity. Real American nationalism ought to start from Jamestown.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

The 1619 Project may be bullshit but the one thing I like about it is that it does say America began in the colonial period, because that's true. I feel like the American Revolution gets kind of misused, it's the birth of the American government of course but American people were already in the country for a long time before that happened, the roots of the culture and what an ethnic American is were already there. But at the same time, American civil religion requires us to suck off the Founding Fathers 24/7 and the Eternal Mick/Guido/Beaner doesn't want to even acknowledge the existence of an American culture much less ethnicity. Real American nationalism ought to start from Jamestown.

That wouldn't really work though. The colonial Era was incredibly important and should be talked about more but the coalescence of the common American identity doesn't really occur until the Revolution and it wasn't fully cemented until the World Wars. If it weren't for those events, we'd be looking at a bunch of entirely disparate regions under the Crown instead of the greater nation we've built today.

 

[Bonesjones]

The 1619 Project may be bullshit but the one thing I like about it is that it does say America began in the colonial period, because that's true. I feel like the American Revolution gets kind of misused, it's the birth of the American government of course but American people were already in the country for a long time before that happened, the roots of the culture and what an ethnic American is were already there. But at the same time, American civil religion requires us to suck off the Founding Fathers 24/7 and the Eternal Mick/Guido/Beaner doesn't want to even acknowledge the existence of an American culture much less ethnicity. Real American nationalism ought to start from Jamestown.

The whole reason the Mayflower thing is important is because it was the first time a government full of religious people setup an agnostic government which is why the Mayflower Compact is the basis of American history and law, directly.