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The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.
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I don't need to tell you about the deaths of every firstborn boy of Egypt; I'm a Christian, not a Jew. Christianity is literally just following what Jesus Christ taught. The Old Testament is not something a Christian follows, it's there for context. In practice, you may as well be citing from the Book of Mormon or the Qu'ran. That's why if an ignorant Christian tries to justify something they shouldn't by citing the Old Testament, (like "an eye for an eye") they're actually going against what Christ taught because they don't actually read the Bible, much like you.
So it doesn't matter what you dig up from the Old Testament, it's irrelevant. That's a common tactic, critics of Christianity will often snidely refer to consumption of shellfish or mixed fabrics as if they've stumbled upon a "gotcha", and try to paint followers as hypocrites if they don't follow everything in the Old Testament. You guys never successfully point to anything in the New Testament, because you can't.
I appreciate that. I didn't bring up my religion though, I said someone was "playing god", a term even Atheists use (similar to "thank God"). I don't argue from a religious standpoint. But still, my religion doesn't contradict what I say.
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Then why are you against homosexuality? All the verses "Christians" like to quote to condemn gayness come from the (mistranslated) OT.
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You do know Christ condemned sexual immorality, right? He wasn't the free love hippie that libtards falsely portray.
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Define "sexual immorality" and quote where it mentions homosexuality in the Bible.
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What about smashing Babylonian babies aganist rocks I think pslam is part of the NT too.
I don’t care if you are Christian or Muslim or Jew you are still sucking Yahweh’s circumcised cock in the end of the day Jesus looked more like an average rabbi then Aryan ideal.
So you think women should give birth to kids with condictions like Harlequin Ichetyosis only for the baby to live a short and painful life
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People with that form of ichthyosis can live into their 20's and even early 30's now if they get good enough care. Almost everything about daily life is pretty much painful for them, sadly. Think they even have to take bleach baths.
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My personal favorite is Leviticus 18:22 -
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
The reason I like it is because I've seen arguments from (possibly gay) Atheists that boil down to the observation that this only really bans Christians from "top" homosexual sex but has nothing to say about Christians being the "bottom" to a Gentile or Heathen. This is an absolutely hilarious argument, especially considering how submissive and breedable Jesus Christ was in the Bible.
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the original Hebrew verse refers to the rest of that chapter, and it talks about pedophilia and anal sex (because it was unsanitary back then).
If Eris-chan doesn't follow the OT like he claims, then it shouldn't even matter. Also I wonder if he follows the Ten Commandments
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Hmmm... doesn't this definitely prove @SSj_Ness's point then? Eating non-Kosher was banned back then because pork and undercooked (bloody) meats were also unsanitary but Jews continue to practice Kosher eating to this day.
Like, why should they only adopt Anal sex?
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Ah fuck - I really should've read your original post more closely. Literally the first Christian I've heard of that does this, which is probably why my brain refused to process it.
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Scripture cannot be broken, nerd. John 10:35.
Be an anti-abortionist all you want, but don’t talk shit about a book you’ve obviously never read a single page of. If you actually read the Bible you’d know that whatever bullshit you keep spouting makes you nothing but a false prophet. I’m still gonna pray for your salvation, though.
Peace, niggerfaggot.
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The Old Testament already does. As I said, it's there for context, otherwise without it there wouldn't even be a basis for Christ being the lord and savior. Don't take my meaning as "wholly discard the Old Testament", rather "filter it through the New Testament". Because again, otherwise you're telling me I have to do stuff like avoid eating shellfish because the Old Testament says so (I do anyway because it's disgusting, but I digress).
Since Christ is God, whatever God considers sexual immorality is what Christ considers sexual immorality. It's not a difficult concept.
Even if the Bible didn't directly condemn homosexuality, it's evident from God's design of human relations in Genesis and in every single scripture regarding sex that it's not what was intended for us. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; God said to reproduce, which is not possible with a man.
Homosexual relations were not part of God's design and isn't part of his plan for anyone, it's really as simple as that.
Jesus basically reiterated the 10 commandments with his own and also told others to follow them, but either way I do by keeping Jesus' commandments (in theory--I don't keep them very well at all):
"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." - John 15:10
I'm a little surprised by the level of confusion regarding this stuff. I know you you guys were probably only exposed to Christianity secondhand through media or Christian relatives, maybe being dragged to church or Googling "how to argue against Christians", but this is literally the most basic Christian concept. It's literally the definition of Christianity:
Since Jesus' teachings are largely based on the Old Testament, reading that is important, otherwise you get questions like "how does Jesus define sexual immorality". But primarily, you follow Jesus' teachings, not the Old Testament.
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The bible's confusing af because it was written during a much different time period, and because good chunk of the prose is metaphorical. More importantly, it's also because the King James version a.k.a. the most widely circulated version is full of mistranslations, continuity errors, and purposeful edits made by the aforementioned King James to promote and/or condemn things he didn't like.
I bring this up because there's a scene in the bible that seems to not just allow but order for abortion if the woman has been unfaithful.
However, due to its writing, and the above-mentioned shit, it could just be making the lady prolapse and whatever, which honestly would just likely make her miscarriage regardless so arguing about it is kind of moot.
I bring this up because there's a scene in the bible that seems to not just allow but order for abortion if the woman has been unfaithful.
However, due to its writing, and the above-mentioned shit, it could just be making the lady prolapse and whatever, which honestly would just likely make her miscarriage regardless so arguing about it is kind of moot.
Neither was the internet but here you are using it anyway.
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Based on the libtard meltdowns over Musk buying Twitter, you'd think the Internet ties into a Biblical apocalypse, so who knows.
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why are people talking about the fucking bible when there's a separation of church and state.
your religion has no part in american politics. we do not live in a theocracy.
your religion has no part in american politics. we do not live in a theocracy.
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So, I'm not in USA, I won't be there in the future and in general NO.
I can only talk for my experiences in Greece. Here we don't have speshul "abortion clinics", all hospitals who have an ob/gyn sections can perform an abortion. Free of charge in public hospitals or 500 euros in a private one.
Some religious weirdos are trying to establish DAY OF THE UNBORN child, but failed. We don't have sex education in schools because of the Church. Oh wait. We have, sort of. A series of courses that they basically tell, that if a woman doesn't want kids in young age, and gets preggo later, her earlier thoughts could make her miscarry (!).
I have used 10 years ago for 4 months the pill and my life went downhill. It was my most horrible time ever. Stopped it.
I rely now only in condoms, and it works for me.
BUT...I've seen the latest trend on greek social media that everyone who advocates for condoms (because HIV and syphilis exist too ya know?) is... how could I say it? A slut. You should pump yourself some hormones and be in risk because some people are gonna cheat, or otherwise you're a slut.
I can only talk for my experiences in Greece. Here we don't have speshul "abortion clinics", all hospitals who have an ob/gyn sections can perform an abortion. Free of charge in public hospitals or 500 euros in a private one.
Some religious weirdos are trying to establish DAY OF THE UNBORN child, but failed. We don't have sex education in schools because of the Church. Oh wait. We have, sort of. A series of courses that they basically tell, that if a woman doesn't want kids in young age, and gets preggo later, her earlier thoughts could make her miscarry (!).
I have used 10 years ago for 4 months the pill and my life went downhill. It was my most horrible time ever. Stopped it.
I rely now only in condoms, and it works for me.
BUT...I've seen the latest trend on greek social media that everyone who advocates for condoms (because HIV and syphilis exist too ya know?) is... how could I say it? A slut. You should pump yourself some hormones and be in risk because some people are gonna cheat, or otherwise you're a slut.
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So you pick and choose what sounds good to you? Got it.
Yeah, so link a verse that explicitly mentions homosexuality between men and I challenge you to find one that talks about lesbianism.
What about infertile people? He made them too. (And gays but who said you were logical)
Source: trust me bro
Then why are you lecturing us on morality?
Nobody asked.
You said you didn't follow the Old Testament.