The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

what are we supposed to do?
Keep your abortion stuff (whatever for or against) here. Hence the words "Containment Thread". While some leeway may be permissible, that leeway should not devolve into bunch of faggots going "haha I like killing babies! Nuh uh murder wrong! Haha no sex! Haha stupid wahmen only can say incel! wanna kill. nuh uh! Ya huh!" for over 20 fucking pages. There was like maybe one on topic post in this entire abortion "debate"
I don't think it's appropriate that people who were complaining about the abortion sperging also got banned.
Report and don't engage. Alternatively make a TtS thread and appeal.
but a week might have been too long.
Appeal. I gave blanked bans to everyone involved. I'm willing to adjust individual cases, and I'm sure some other mods would be willing to hear you out as well.
I made one post about democrats acting incredulous that a judge used the weaponized injunctions they used to cheer on, and now I'm stuck in this blasted hellscape

Just for future reference, is there anything else I'm not supposed to notice
I didn't threadban you. Your post kick started the whole mess (through no fault of your own), though Freya kept it aflame. If you want me to, I can move it back.
 
I mean there's not much left to say on the actual topic of abortion. Abortion defenders have been blown out seven ways from Sunday many times over in this thread. They always turn out like our buddy @Freya and devolve into hysterics.

I guess one angle you could discuss, if you wanted, was this idea that the Republicucks are going to lose every election forever now because they're "too extreme" on abortion. Not sure if true, but it's a common perception that this is a winning issue for Democrats electorally.
No I haven't. It was just incels that have the deep urge to control others getting triggered because embryos are capable of telekinesis or something.
 
No I haven't. It was just incels that have the deep urge to control others getting triggered because embryos are capable of telekinesis or something.
Bro the only thing that controls your retard sperging are your pills which you are obviously off of.
 
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Everyone who's posts got moved, got a week long threadban. I am hoping everyone will either calm down, or just exhaust their abortion spergery here.

You niggers turned the last 20 or so pages into almost entirely shit slinging about abortion.
I wasn't even a part of the debate other than pointing out how hypocritical it is to say "all righties support abortion" and telling the participants to take it here, but ok
 
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who else got threadbanned?

fuck you @Freya and fuck all the rest of you who can't just put her on ignore.

Sorry, I'm used to the old days of the internet, where it took some mental effort to get on. So it gatekeeped the morons. And there was no ignore button, so you debated until one of you was obliterated. Now though, thanks to the internet being flooded with idiots thanks to "super easy UI" and "Troubleshoot Wizards". You have deal with people that can't argue and just angrily smash report and downvote when they hear something they don't like, instead of y'know, actually defending it.

Then the mods have to come in because the crybabies threw a tantrum, and clean up the mess.

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Unlike some of you guys, I fully deserved the threadban lol.
If I’m ever fully banned from the farms I’m just gonna start a radio station that involves conspiracies, life stories, punk, metal, and general retardation. I’ll name it “The Station”. Also to keep on topic abortion bad and Freya is legit fat cat lady no cap imao.
 
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Keep your abortion stuff (whatever for or against) here. Hence the words "Containment Thread". While some leeway may be permissible, that leeway should not devolve into bunch of faggots going "haha I like killing babies! Nuh uh murder wrong! Haha no sex! Haha stupid wahmen only can say incel! wanna kill. nuh uh! Ya huh!" for over 20 fucking pages. There was like maybe one on topic post in this entire abortion "debate"

dude I wasn't arguing for or against, I was talking about how abortion affects american politics. it's a central issue.
 
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dude I wasn't arguing for or against, I was talking about how abortion affects american politics. it's a central issue.
FOOLISH CHILD THE MOD HAS SPOKEN!
In a more political issue i'm for the states making their own choices on abortion and it would be worse for DC to make it all legal or make it all illegal.
 
dude I wasn't arguing for or against, I was talking about how abortion affects american politics. it's a central issue.
I will concede that some of your posts indeed were about that. Other's had nothing to do with politics, and instead revolved around medical terms, science of birth control, and shitting on other users. All that said, you have two options. DM me (or your favourite mod) and appeal there, or make a TtS thread. Personally I think that complete reversal of the threadban is not warranted, but I'd certainly be willing to consider reducing it by a few days.
 
I will concede that some of your posts indeed were about that. Other's had nothing to do with politics, and instead revolved around medical terms, science of birth control, and shitting on other users. All that said, you have two options. DM me (or your favourite mod) and appeal there, or make a TtS thread. Personally I think that complete reversal of the threadban is not warranted, but I'd certainly be willing to consider reducing it by a few days.

birth control and medical terms are relevant to the discussion, just like if the discussion is about the first amendment there's going to be gun sperging. the difference is that when it's abortion fucking Freya shows up and people can't not bait her.
 
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That's not what he's saying, nor his legal argument. We've already been over this dude. He is not buying his daughters birth control. That doesn't mean they still can't get it. He wants the federal government to not support organizations that do not require parental consent to hand out birth control.
Yes, we have. He isn't using birth control and neither are his daughters. There was no need for him to bring the case, but that specific judge, Kacsmaryk, is noted for his ideological leanings. It's judge shopping, simply put, and he just used the 1875 Comstock law to ban the mailing of the abortion pills. The Fifth Circuit court agreed.
A pregnancy failing on its own is called a miscarriage or a stillbirth, depending on how far along the pregnancy is.


That's not "aiding a natural death" anymore than me feeding someone cyanide is "aiding a natural death".
That is still called a spontaneous abortion. And yes, mifepristone is used for incomplete miscarriages. It can also be used for Cushing's disease. These things happen and there are a multitude of drugs used to aid a miscarriage when it does not solve on its from. Mifepristone, from a medical standpoint, isn't just used for abortion. However, given that it is part of the two-step drug regimen for medication abortion, it was chosen by the ADF and the Alliance of Hippocratic Medicine (incorporated only a few months ago in Texas) for its 'unsafe' profile - even when they brought no actual sufferers of the drug in said trial. Even the oxycodone trials had far more victims, and the FDA still refused to take them off the market (as did the courts).
"Conservative" politicians *have* to create a situation where their voters fear the pro-choice menace. So they have to get the pro-choice menance spooked good and hard with crazy stuff. Then the pro-choicers push for infanticide, and they can say to their voters "vote for me or the babykillers get in -" babykillers whom they have ensured will be engaging in constant public freakouts because the politicians of both sides have nothing to gain from compromise.
The Ohio case blew up because, initially, conservatives thought it was a hoax. Statements were made that Ohio law does allow for abortion in that context, but under the then-enacted heartbeat law, it was not. (Archive of a relevant article.) Before the details emerged that the rapist was an illegal immigrant and that the mother knew what was going on, this statement was made by a pregnancy care center:

An incident report filed April 29 by the local police department reflects an interview with an employee of a "pregnancy care center," who appeared to place some of the responsibility on the 11-year old rape victim. She is "rebellious," the employee said, according to the police report, and "refuses to listen to her mother and runs away from home all the time." A separate incident report does not adequately redact the victim's name nor her home address, even though the victim is a minor.
That's a fucked up thing to say, especially for an 11-year-old girl. It isn't a winning issue, either.

Re: ectopic pregnancies really are dangerous, and exceptions for them were made in light of severe pushback from doctors. I'm sure you remember the Ohio case of their legislature wanting ectopic pregnancies to be re-implanted? Thankfully that went nowhere, and exceptions are made for that in their current laws. But it was a weird thing to see proposed.
I am willing to tolerate abortions up to 12 weeks. Most people too agree that 3 months if a good limit. Hell most of Europe has it. 8 weeks is a limit around the heartbeat detection that is a bit short but shouldn't be a issue at all if a woman is in any way responsible. If not that isn't my problem and you should have closed your legs.

Sounds like some more cope to me. All of this comes off as fear mongering over having to take care of your own body and take responsibility.
Europe has more maternity care laws, and easier access to clinics, so more abortions can be done within that time frame. The United States doesn't really have maternity care laws or leave, and in certain states like Texas, lower income families often have their Medicaid yanked after six months. (To add, the US never actually ratified the Rights of the Child UN treaty, and is the only nation aside from North Korea to do so.) Were the healthcare system updated from the top down, you might see this achievable. But that's for optional abortions; fetal anomalies often occur around 18 weeks, so there should be exceptions for that.
Ask yourself why it took 50 years for Roe v. Wade to be enacted into federal law. All of this could've been avoided if the government actually did right for its citizens instead of dangling the keys for years. Hell, an agreement was being finalized to recognize abortion for 12 weeks federally I believe. Democrats said no, so now Republicans have gotten a win out of pure spite.
ProPublica did have a good article on this, noting that under Obama, abortion protections could have been codified under a Democrat supermajority. Obama even promised it on the campaign trail. Naturally he dropped it.

In terms of state-driven abortion referendums, certain states are making it harder for it to be put on the ballot, which might be the case in Florida in other states. We'll see how that goes with the Comstock Act being revived for the mifepristone ruling.
 
"because conservatives thought it was a hoax" isn't a process by which something becomes international news. Prolife and prochoice organizations do a lot of PR. A *lot.*

Also that language is totally standard. I'm glad you think it's fucked up but that's how girls get treated once they don't look like children anymore, and we can assume some things about that girl's appearance from the fact that she got pregnant.

The Obama administration didn't codify abortion because the Democratic Party wanted to continue to use the issue to get out the vote.
 
OOOOOH she's the fat bitch. I thought she was the one that was overcompensating for not getting laid via her rapefics.
...do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

Statements were made that Ohio law does allow for abortion in that context, but under the then-enacted heartbeat law, it was not. (Archive of a relevant article.)
How long are you going to continue this misrepresentation?

The article you linked specifies that abortions aren't allowed in the case of rape or incest, but the issue at hand was that an eleven year old was raped and impregnated. Ohio law absolutely allows for doctors to abort to save a pregnant woman's life (of course, the article doesn't even begin to mention this), and no doctor is going to claim that a barely pubescent child can in any way safely give birth.

Re: ectopic pregnancies really are dangerous, and exceptions for them were made in light of severe pushback from doctors. I'm sure you remember the Ohio case of their legislature wanting ectopic pregnancies to be re-implanted?
The original language had no force, only asserting that it should be done if it's possible, and it obviously isn't.
 
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