The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

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Teenagers are in fact just capable of having children as older women, because their bodies have already developed the capability of giving birth.
That gives "If it bleeds, it breeds" 🤢🤮

15 year olds are not meant to have children, their bodies are not ready to handle the strain and often have severe cosequenses!

At the youngest it should be 20, MINIMUM! Teens in late adolescence should not have children, and they should have the option to have a safe, first trimester abortion. Their risk of death and severe injury is much much higher.

I prioitize women and teenage girls who are already here over a first trimester embryo who can't feel pain or even have the brain function to hear, see, feel, or think.
 
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At the youngest it should be 20, MINIMUM!
You should also raise the age of consent to 25 because she's literally a child. Her frontal brain part hasn't developed yet. You're literally touching children! Gross. 30+ roast beefy meat flaps only. Everything else should be illegal because it's literally pedophilia!!!!

18-20 is fine. Stop fucking LARPing bluehairdom. Never forget, there was a time when that was considered old age and women got by just fine. And it wasn't as long ago as you think it was.
 
You should also raise the age of consent to 25 because she's literally a child. Her frontal brain part hasn't developed yet. You're literally touching children! Gross. 30+ roast beefy meat flaps only. Everything else should be illegal because it's literally pedophilia!!!!

18-20 is fine. Stop fucking LARPing bluehairdom. Never forget, there was a time when that was considered old age and women got by just fine. And it wasn't as long ago as you think it was.
You are wrong on so many levels it is not even funny. Pray tell, how could a typical (POOR) 14-15 year old girl have gotten pregnant in ye olden days when teens did not get their period until on average 17 or 18 years old in the 1700s?

Most marrages of teenagers were often kids of nobility and it was political, the children were sent back home to their parents until they came of age! For girls that would be having a period...which, was about 18!

Usually it would take a bit to actually get pregnant, because half of all pregnancies end in miscarrage, so the average time a woman became a first time mom was about 20 in ye olden days, huh, go figure. That's right were I said women SHOULD start having babies, not at fucking 15 years old. Keep in mind, this is an average age meaning some women had teen pregnancies as girls and some were in their mid 20s when they had their first in ye olden days of the 1700s.

I believe in the 1970s the average age of first time motherhood was 24, and the 1980s was 25, a whole whopping 4-5 years later.

Late adolescent teenagers (15-19), should not have children. It is very hard on their bodies
 
Funny, it is usually men who are the biggest sluts around and who never want to settle down and have a family until they are 38.
Since I didn't address this before. Men want to settle around 32-35 on average. No man wants their first kid at 38 if they had a choice.

Just because a 19-20 year old young woman dosen't want to have babies just yet, dosen't mean that she's a slut or a whore.
I am referring to women who jump on as many Chad schlongs as they can and have a body count of 30+ by age 21.

Do you want a 19 year old getting married and having children??? She would not be mature enough to be a great mother. She could be a good mother, but many are not because they are immature at that age, same goes for a 19 year old man. He wouldn't make a great father.
Life is not experience points. This isn't a fucking video game. Maturity is not something you magically accumulate the older you get. Children force you to become responsible adults regardless of age. Most people rise to the occasion. The ones that don't are not the norm and they suck for it.

The best time to get married and have children is between 25-35. That's ideal.
That is ideal for YOU. The majority of men don't want that. The majority of men would be satisfied with one woman their entire lives. Why? They want loyalty and someone they can depend on. Most guys would've probably been happy marrying their highschool sweethearts if life didn't get in the way. That's why many of them back then did.

I am not in favor of abortion on demand or second trimester abortions, but around 60,000 babies were born since Roe that were a result of rape, also, even pushing aside the rape aspect. Teen pregnancy is a BAD thing and it's not just the girl who magically impregnates herself. Accidents happen, and children need a way to safely abort, because abortion will happen regardless of your (or my) morals.
I don't disagree with you. However, 60,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to the pile of infant corpses. Unfortunately even if I agree with your morals, and to some degree I do, but that's not how reality played out.

In reality, young women used abortion as birth control and thought they could do this endlessly with no consequences. That's just not how the world works. It's only natural people turned against abortion due to how many people abused it.

Late adolescent teenagers (15-19), should not have children. It is very hard on their bodies
Their bodies are also stronger and more durable and recover faster. You do not recover nearly as well as 30. You are not as strong at 25 as you were at 18 as far as your body's durability is concerned.
 
FTFY now go have a giggle or else the spirit of Margaret Sanger will haunt your nightmares for 1000 days and nights.:heart-full:
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their bodies are not ready to handle the strain
This is just bullshit. Older teens are as fully capable of giving birth and do so just as readily as older women. Is there a higher risk of complications the younger you go? Yes, more than likely, but its the same in the other direction, as there is a greater risk of complications the older you are. 18-22 is the peak of female fertility. Any female of that age is fully capable of giving birth to a healthy baby, Saying that their bodies are incapable of handling the strain of birth is just counterfactual and scientifically wrong. If that was the case, they would be incapable of giving birth to begin with, just like children are.

At the youngest it should be 20, MINIMUM!
That's merely your opinion, not backed up by any science or even by nature.

and they should have the option to have a safe, first trimester abortion.
Murder is never an option, period.
 
Pro Choice people made me somewhat Pro Life because the underlining theme behind being Pro Life is taking responsibility. I rarely see Pro Choice people talking about rape victims or anything relating to the horrors of pregnancy, it's all about "its my body REEEE i can be irresponsible as I want!".

I say somewhat Pro Life because Im not "Pro Life" but I'm also not "Pro Choice". I'm Pro Accountability. Minors should always have access to abortion care, same with rape victims (which includes men who lie about condoms). But if you're an adult and you fucked around only to find out, you only have yourself to blame. You must bear the guilt regarding your shitty choices.

Even without the risk of pregnancy, sex isn't something you should mindlessly do. You shouldn't do anything in life that causes pleasure "mindlessly" or all willy nilly. We have a pleasure/pain balance, our bodies are at a constant homeostasis regarding our hormones.
Even if a fetus is not considered a living being, abortion would still be unethical for the average circumstance because it promotes mindless promiscuity.
 
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Unless under certain extreme circumstances, I have no reason to normalize and legitimize abortions. It's really cruel to deny a child a life. However if the baby is extremely deformed and defective (And would be living a life a living hell) or if the birthing process is detrimental to the carrier, I can understand.
 
I have an idea. Let's gather 100 women: 50 pro-choice, 50 pro-life and place them in a colosseum. Last one standing gets to mandate how abortion is handled. Problem solved.
 
None of the Moloch supporters here will say yes If it was possible to take an embryo/fetus from the mother's womb at any point, less traumatically than abortion, and implant into an artificial womb, and keep it alive without using the mother's body, and that was freely available to everyone,because it is about killing not about ending a pregnancy
 
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