The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

nice answer
it appears our friend @CAPTAIN MATI fancies himself as some sort of biblical scholar, so he thinks that he truly understands the bible and its REAL meaning. nevermind the fact that the bible was written by a bunch of desert nomads thousands of years ago and it's been translated and retranslated so many times that its original meaning is lost, clearly CAPTAIN over here knows what he's on about.

of course, none of this really matters, because, at least in the USA, we're not supposed to be writing laws based on religion, so frankly this entire conversation is pointless and is a distraction from the actual issue at hand, which is that there are a lot of angry incels on KF that are unable to get laid and are mad at women for it.
 

Psalm 137:9

Breh, it clearly says that abortion is a curse on those who do not follow the Lord.

Hosea 13:16

Breh, same. Samaria was the norther kingdom that went all pagan and this was a warning from the Lord who they betrayed that they will get fucked up for their bullshit, which happened when the Assyrian niggas rolled through them.

1 Samuel 15:3

Breh, the Amalekites were already killing their kids, burning them alive in fire in fact, all for the worship of the same death cultism. The Lord had warned those motherfuckers long ago since Mozes and Josh kicked their ass back and forth to get their shit straight. Breh, you do not go against the Lord and expect anything else than total destruction. Shit is not a good thing, breh, and the Bible clearly states that shit ever right here.
Breh, do you even read beyond two sentences of a story, breh?
So you are saying it is ok to smash babies against a rock if their parents disobey god.
 
it appears our friend @CAPTAIN MATI fancies himself as some sort of biblical scholar, so he thinks that he truly understands the bible and its REAL meaning. nevermind the fact that the bible was written by a bunch of desert nomads thousands of years ago and it's been translated and retranslated so many times that its original meaning is lost, clearly CAPTAIN over here knows what he's on about.

of course, none of this really matters, because, at least in the USA, we're not supposed to be writing laws based on religion, so frankly this entire conversation is pointless and is a distraction from the actual issue at hand, which is that there are a lot of angry incels on KF that are unable to get laid and are mad at women for it.
Breh, I am literally the lowest of the low of Biblical non-scholars, but even filth like me can see through the gayest ass attempt of some abortionist leftoids trying to misquote the Bible as glorifying the horror of abortion which is clearly proved to be a horrible curse on nations.

For a christian you sure are full of malice. I’ll pray for your salvation.
Breh, have you even heard about the Crusades lol

So you are saying it is ok to smash babies against a rock if their parents disobey god.
Breh, it is never okay to kill anyone. Even in the laws of Moses where the Lord clearly dictates the penalty of death for sin, there is leeway for repentance and cleansing.
Death is literally the enemy of all life and the worst shit, like ever. Why do you think the Bible ends on the ultimate defeat of death lol
Breh, it's stupid niggas that take death for granted and excuse it for more death for the worst poddible reasons. It's as the saying goes, a lack f wisdom.
 
Breh, I am literally the lowest of the low of Biblical non-scholars, but even filth like me can see through the gayest ass attempt of some abortionist leftoids trying to misquote the Bible as glorifying the horror of abortion which is clearly proved to be a horrible curse on nations.
ah, got it, you're too stupid to read the bible.
 
Breh, I am literally the lowest of the low of Biblical non-scholars, but even filth like me can see through the gayest ass attempt of some abortionist leftoids trying to misquote the Bible as glorifying the horror of abortion which is clearly proved to be a horrible curse on nations.


Breh, have you even heard about the Crusades lol

Numbers 5:21 NIV​

“may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell."
 
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Numbers 5:21 NIV​

“may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell."
Exactly breh. Aka, "let this here curse be upon you, nigga."
How retardedass do you ave to be to read it ass, "abortion is good. Let us do more abortion."
lol
@CAPTAIN MATI what about Genesis 2:7? Where it says life begins with you’re first birth
Breh, you're comparing the literally first Adamn to the Adam wrestling in his mom's womd for a hearbeat lol
I ain't no scientist and shit, but the way I's told, yoou need air to have a heartbeat and shit lol

Leviticus 19:18 Love thy neighbor.
You should know this shit, so act like it.
Breh, if I wouln't have any appreciation even for your dumb ass, I'd have pruned my account a long ass time ago, nigga lol
Same's with the Amalekites. If nigga had not been causing war and shit, burning children alive, maybe the Lord have said to cut them a break and shit.
 
So if I were to want abortion outlawed, but also want it to be the case that women are entitled to free gibs forever proportional to the amount of children they have, would you agree with my views?
I would not, because I believe in body autonomy and want your puritan religious bullshit out of the laws of this nation, but I'd at least say you were consistent.
You didn't answer the question. Lel.
I did answer the question, retard. I said that people are gonna have sex. You can't legislate against that. It's in our biology. Just because your brain is so diseased from autism that it's removed your sex drive so you've turned into a puritanical boomer doesn't mean the rest of us have. And no, abortion isn't "killing an infant". Infants are after the baby is born.

Can you articulate why? Or does your viewpoint depend on this being uncritically accepted as a priori truth?
How is a fetus a baby? It hasn't been born and can't survive on it's own. I guess you Taliban gotta outlaw masturbation, too, because sperm is a potential baby.

You seem awfully obsessed with Christianity, constantly bringing it up for no reason. If I were to take your mindset of stereotyping my opposition I'd guess that you're just a seething libtard because mommy and daddy were mean to you and made you go to church every Sunday.
Except you puritans are doing it because you think Jesus wants it to. You want to force women to have babies because that's what your megachurch pastor says to do. You religious tards need to get your laws out of our nation's laws and go to Afghanistan where you can be with your fellow theocrats.

Breh, what the fuck do nazis have to do with anything?
Dude, stop seeing phatoms in the shades. Breh, we're talking about the murder of children here. That shit is the basic core of eugenics. You know who else really loved eugenics? The reptilian people lol
Aww, your feeble brain can't answer the question because you know it's retarded of you to white knight nazis.

Breh, dude, breh. Christ is King, but even a total godless moron retard can tell you that a fetus is literally a human being. Breh, saying that a fetus isn't a human being is just semantic bullshit. You can literally say negroes are not human because they're stupid and have different skin.
Breh, not calling a fetus human is pure racism.
A fetus isn't a baby any more than a brick is a house. Now, go back to /pol/ so you can hang out with your fellow right-wing retards and sperg about how awesome Putin and the Taliban are. No one wants your religious bullshit pushed on them
 
Exactly breh. Aka, "let this here curse be upon you, nigga."
How retardedass do you ave to be to read it ass, "abortion is good. Let us do more abortion."
lol
nobody looks forward to getting an abortion.
Breh, you're comparing the literally first Adamn to the Adam wrestling in his mom's womd for a hearbeat lol
I ain't no scientist and shit, but the way I's told, yoou need air to have a heartbeat and shit lol
type coherently please.
Breh, if I wouln't have any appreciation even for your dumb ass, I'd have pruned my account a long ass time ago, nigga lol
Same's with the Amalekites. If nigga had not been causing war and shit, burning children alive, maybe the Lord have said to cut them a break and shit.
so you're pro-abortion when God does it. why do you consider yourself unconditionally anti-choice then?
 
Aww, your feeble brain can't answer the question because you know it's retarded of you to white knight nazis.
Breh, what's more nazi shit? To protect life or to end it before it can walk for your own pleasure?
A fetus isn't a baby any more than a brick is a house.
I bet I can raise a fetus to sing songs and shit in about 10 years time, but you can't do that shit with a brick house in a 1000 years lol
Now, go back to /pol/ so you can hang out with your fellow right-wing retards and sperg about how awesome Putin and the Taliban are. No one wants your religious bullshit pushed on them
Breh, have you even seen my raging in the Ukraine thread?
nobody looks forward to getting an abortion.
Tell that shit to leftoid feminists mass protesting and redditing the shit up with their abortion achievements lol
type coherently please.
Nah, nigga, you punk niggas lost that shit from me long time back and shit. Now's I'ma have fun with this typing game shit, breh lol
so you're pro-abortion when God does it. why do you consider yourself unconditionally anti-choice then?
Nigga, if you'd have a crazy ass nation bent on killing babies in the name of smolensk or some other demonic nigga, and that shit would be at your doorstep for over a 100 years, nigga, I guarantee you would go out and at least tell those niggas to stop that shit and when they refused, boi you just can't talk sense into some niggas and in the end they do get what they want, either by the hand of the Lord, or their own.
 
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I think abortion should be legal, there are many negatives to keeping an unwanted child. (I hope I didn’t word it too wrong.) Forcing someone to birth and raise a child because it’s their punishment and they deserve it can cause resentment towards the child in the future. What if they neglect the child’s needs? What if they abandon them? Does the governent have a back up plan because there are already hundreds and thousands of children in foster care.
 
Tell that shit to leftoid feminists mass protesting and redditing the shit up with their abortion achievements lol
1) i don't care about plebbit
2) abortion is very traumatic for most women
3) being anti-women is not very godly
Nah, nigga, you punk niggas lost that shit from me long time back and shit. Now's I'ma have fun with this typing game shit, breh lol

Nigga, if you'd have a crazy ass nation bent on killing babies in the name of smolensk or some other demonic nigga, and that shit would be at your doorstep for over a 100 years, nigga, I guarantee you would go out and at least tell those niggas to stop that shit and when they refused, boi you just can't talk sense into some niggas and in the end they do get what they want, either by the hand of the Lord, or their own.
get some sleep or something.
 
Self awareness.

What evidence is there that an infant possesses self awareness?


As I suspected. I will thus assume that everyone in this thread claiming to be a woman is actually a man, probably a larping tranny, because it is convenient for my pre-conceived biases to assume that they are lying.

Was I talking about abortions or about you needing to shut up?

I bet you think a zygote is a person. If you even know what that is without using google lmao.
A zygote is a person.
your hand doesn't count.


...how is anyone supposed to respond seriously to something this fucking stupid?
I would ask you the same. When asked what qualifies an infant for personhood but not a fetus, you literally have no answer besides "because it just does."

@gang weeder

No it’s just what happened before the welfare and social safety net system and what will happen if we abolish them

A chinese friend of mine said that when she was a child she routinely saw village women throw their babies in Xiang river no one did anything about it because of how poor these women were.

Abortion is illegal in China except for medical reasons so tell me would you rather these women throwing their babies into rivers or abortion so they could abort a fetus before it develops into a real baby who can feel pain and get drowned to death

Romania once banned abortion and the result was a disaster infancide rates skyrocketed,babies were put under railway tracks, orphanages were cramped, kids were starving and many children were sex trafficked to rich pedos in the west they were the poorest country in Europe at the time

Say what you want but abortion is preferable to the alternative
If you acknowledge that murdering babies for financial convenience is wrong, then I don't see what your point is. If it is justified to abort babies for financial convenience while in the womb, why would it be wrong outside of it? Likewise, if we posit that murdering babies for financial convenience is wrong after the baby has been born, why would it suddenly be okay before?

As always, the core issue is simply whether a fetus is a person, and this whinging about gibs is irrelevant stupidity.

Breh.
I'm sorry. But I can't take this powerful kind of stupid lol
I ain't gonna say any more than you must read the whole Bible before you can talk to me again lol
This is why I don't argue the faith with non-believers.

How is a fetus a baby? It hasn't been born and can't survive on it's own. I guess you Taliban gotta outlaw masturbation, too, because sperm is a potential baby.

A fetus is a genetically distinct individual of the human species. If you tested the DNA in its tissue, it will be different from that of the mother.

Sperm and eggs on their own are not such individuals. If this were true, every man would be a mass murderer in the hundred of billions simply by existing, as that's how many sperm cells an average man generates over his lifetime (each ejaculation alone contains millions of sperm). The entire female population of the planet all carrying a single man's children at once would still barely even leave a dent in this number.

An infant can't survive on its own either. "It hasn't been born" is an actual difference between a fetus and a child, yes. It is not apparent why this makes it okay to kill a person at the pre-birth stage of development but not post-birth.
 
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