The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[RustedPeacock]

But bruh, muh internal moral compass said it isn't rape. That makes it okay, right? Since you have to respect my internal moral compass. Right? Don't shove your morals on me, bro.

Listen, you clearly can't grasp idea that you can't measure other people by your own standards.

When I'm saying that every human being here has their own moral compass, I mean You can't enforce on other people following your belief that every life is sacred. No one is pushing women to abortion clinics and even if you ban those there are workarounds to bypass such bans, like aborting in Canada.

This is simple concept. I literally don't care about fetuses killed/aborted by other women. This is not my problem, nor I feel entitled to shove them for what they have done.

No, your logic would be akin to if the North had said to the South, "well if it is your internal moral compass that blacks are farm equipment rather than people, okay, we will respect that." Since you know, you must respect everyone's personal moral compass on what counts as a person and what doesn't.

Da fuck you referring to again?
We are talking about abortion here not civil war. Wars got this specific thing that the winner enforce their will on defeated. If South would've won (or at least not lost and cease) maybe to this day slavery would be common thing on South.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

This is very annoying without a reply feature... @snailslime

freshly conceived fetuses are less alive than parasites.

lmao life isn't a spectrum, something either is or is not life. Holy shit I'm still replying to you, I am retarded.

you can't provide a source for your definition

I told you multiple times what the source was. Remember, it rhymes with "Botanica"? And where's your source for some life being "less alive" than other life, especially pertaining to human development?

what's wrong with what i said?

You said they only gain sentience at around 22 weeks. I proved that to be false, and so you moved the goal since responding to sound proves you're wrong.

i think biologists know way more about biology than your average joe, yes.

Yes?! So as Ketanji said, only biologists can define "woman"; not Ketanji, and neither you nor I, JUST biologists? But you defined a woman earlier. Are you a biologist or not?

why does it matter? and how do you know that for a fact?

Because we're talking about ending human life, details matter. And humans develop sentience, we're not plants lol how do you not know that fact?

Unless you're suggesting it won't become sentient because it'll be retarded or something, but I don't think killing retards is right either anyway, do you?

he was sentient before he became comatose

Wait, wait. You said it doesn't matter that the fetus will gain sentience since it currently is not sentient, implying only the current moment matters. If the future doesn't matter, why does the past? The comatose dude IS, just like the young fetus, not sentient NOW.

Does only now matter? If not, then why does the past but not the future matter? In fact, just tell me exactly what tangible difference it makes anyway, why should anybody cares if he WAS sentient since you don't care that the fetus WILL be?

and [he] probably consented to whatever will be done to him while he's in the coma.

What if he was born comatose?

it's basic science

What's scientific about killing your offspring at their most vulnerable? I don't get your point.

a lot of pro-lifers don't give a damn about babies after they're born

Can't care about babies that are killed, so maybe focus on that first.

it's not killing

Being small doesn't mean it doesn't count as being killed.

it kinda does

Explain.

i never insulted you?

I'm pretty sure that's not true but regardless, then I apologize.

yeah, it's called brain development and neural connections. pretty reasonable way to define sentient life

Hold up. You were saying it's "not life" and "not alive", not that it wasn't "sentient life". You need to be more consistent, you can't flop around like a fish out of water.

why should it?

I'm not here to debate whether it should or not, but it DOES. That is what matters.

your steak isn't sentient because it's dead. the cow it came from was once sentient though.

But it's not a question of if it was or not, it is currently dead and can never not be dead, so it is--being dead and all--not sentient, so you don't need to say "this steak is not sentient". That is redundant as steak is inherently not sentient.

your friend gang weeder is the only one running in circles here.

He's doing donuts in celebration of his victory. Nobody can best his arguments, it seems.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

They.

Love.

Trains.

 

[Niggaplease]

I can't remember the last time reading a comment on this site gave me genuine pause.

Why.

In the hell.

Would I ever pursue someone who's only capable of renting out her bodily autonomy for less than two hours of disgustingly hollow sex in a ratty motel so I can get no less than two STDs while her pimp jerks off in the bathroom with the door left ajar, all so I can shell more money than the experience could ever be worth?

Put aside that every relationship you've ever had with a man can be extensively described with the words "pain" and/or "protection", and put aside that you lack so much self-preservation instinct that the only reason you never got murdered after repeatedly and willingly putting yourself at the mercy of dangerous people was because you repeatedly and willingly put yourself at the mercy of other dangerous people.

You are the last person who should ever think of saying anything remotely resembling "he's just like this because people like me wouldn't ever fuck him".

I am going to start off wow you are a salty ass bitch.
I love how you go into a tirade as if I should feel some guilt over the fact the at some point in life I was forced into situations I didn't wanna be in, like I should feel guilt or ashamed. the truth is unlike you nigger faggot, I don't lament things that happened in the past because guess what? theres no point in it. It happened, I can be miserable for the rest of my life, or I can be happy, and I've chosen happiness. Its retarded to constantly dwell on it.
Your attempts at chiding me for my previous whoredom, isn't working. which by the way was through exploitation and substance abuse, fails because unlike you, I acknowledge my mistakes and faults, as that mistakes and faults. Your definitely the type that will crack eventually and buy a whore to solve your perpetual virginity. I am a shitty human being, I've come to terms with that, but to be honest I'd much rather be me than you, because it must be pretty sad to sit here on kiwi farms whining "WHY WON'T WOMEN TOUCH MY PEEPEE?!" while typing spergy essay long incel posts about abortion and whether a woman who was in engaged in sex work has a right to talk about abortion. Which btw I do, because despite my past I am still a woman, and capable of having kids still.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

What's your metric for personhood then?

I'd say when they can survive outside the womb

Not without someone's constant attention. It isn't any more independent than a fetus is. If you try to treat it as such, it will promptly die.

Doesn't matter, if they can't survive outside the womb, they aren't a person. We gotta draw the line somewhere. If not, every time your spaztic ass faps to train anime you're guilty of murdering millions of babies

It wouldn't be so bad, but you "pro life" people are also tardraging about the vaccine and mask mandates and are generally anti-welfare. You just want to punish women who have sex because you're an incel.

Nigga. One last time from the top. What is more nazi? Killing babies or not killing babies?

Good thing a fetus isn't a baby.

Nigga. I asked if you've seen MY raging there.

I'd assume you're raging because Ukraine is putting up a fight against your BASED Putin. I don't go into the Ukraine threads because there's too many alt-right retards in there

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Good thing a fetus isn't a baby.

I'd say a fetus is more developed than you, so what does that make you?

I'd assume you're raging because Ukraine is putting up a fight against your BASED Putin. I don't go into the Ukraine threads because there's too many alt-right retards in there

Only thing I can say it is very fitting for you leftoids to keep building up straw men to fight with lol
Maybe you want to talk about the odd weather while we're at this thread about abortion too? Though by the look of it you'd try to convince me that rain makes the soil dry or something like that.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I'd say a fetus is more developed than you, so what does that make you?

Well good thing your opinion means nothing to me.

Only thing I can say it is very fitting for you leftoids to keep building up straw men to fight with lol
Maybe you want to talk about the odd weather while we're at this thread about abortion too? Though by the look of it you'd try to convince me that rain makes the soil dry or something like that.

Maybe if you hadn't simped for nazis I wouldn't be laughing at you for being a Nazi simping European

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Well good thing your opinion means nothing to me.

You can add it to your list right next to living babies lol

Maybe if you hadn't simped for nazis I wouldn't be laughing at you for being a Nazi simping European

Again, retard. What is more gangsta nazi shit? Killing babies or not?

 

[gang weeder]

From the article

And does your article explain how it knows that an infant is conscious? Or does it simply assert it without evidence or reasoning? Because it seems like the latter.

I'd say when they can survive outside the womb

Why does the birth canal confer personhood? Because it is convenient for your viewpoint?

Listen, you clearly can't grasp idea that you can't measure other people by your own standards.

When I'm saying that every human being here has their own moral compass, I mean You can't enforce on other people following your belief that every life is sacred. No one is pushing women to abortion clinics and even if you ban those there are workarounds to bypass such bans, like aborting in Canada.

This is simple concept. I literally don't care about fetuses killed/aborted by other women. This is not my problem, nor I feel entitled to shove them for what they have done.

So, if a woman smothers her infant, it's "not my problem, nor I feel entitled to shove them for what they have done?" Because she followed "her own moral compass" in doing that?

Da fuck you referring to again?
We are talking about abortion here not civil war. Wars got this specific thing that the winner enforce their will on defeated. If South would've won (or at least not lost and cease) maybe to this day slavery would be common thing on South.

You are incredibly dense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

Maybe that will help you out.

New born babies aren't sentient beings lol. They have no self awareness or even thought until they are like 2 months old. They are just things moving and wiggling around.


The fact that we can't abort them after birth is already a compromise with you guys.

The first honest abortion advocate I've seen. "Yeah, if it were up to me, we should be able to smother infants because they aren't people either lol." Bravo sir, bravo. Notable is that some of these other abortion defenders liked your post, so presumably they agree with your defense of infanticide, they just don't have the balls to say it themselves.

 

[Hotter Shoeonhead.]

And does your article explain how it knows that an infant is conscious? Or does it simply assert it without evidence or reasoning? Because it seems like the latter.



Why does the birth canal confer personhood? Because it is convenient for your viewpoint?



So, if a woman smothers her infant, it's "not my problem, nor I feel entitled to shove them for what they have done?" Because she followed "her own moral compass" in doing that?



You are incredibly dense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

Maybe that will help you out.



The first honest abortion advocate I've seen. "Yeah, if it were up to me, we should be able to smother infants because they aren't people either lol." Bravo sir, bravo. Notable is that some of these other abortion defenders liked your post, so presumably they agree with your defense of infanticide, they just don't have the balls to say it themselves.

By doing brain scans

Also I think @Epic Fail Man was joking there

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I love how you go into a tirade as if I should feel some guilt

How narcissistic are you?

It was bad enough when you salivated at the idea of shutting me down in the bizarre hypothetical situation that I sought your services, as if I ever would, and as if I could ever stand to gain from doing so. But you think the whole point of that comment is "you should feel bad about your life's choices" when it's actually "shut the hell up, you don't know a single thing about men, your once being a whore never afforded you that knowledge, and don't ever suggest that I would ever try securing a whore's services-- let alone yours".

I don't lament things that happened in the past because guess what? theres no point in it. It happened

It's not "things that happened", it's things you did. Whoredom didn't happen to you-- you chose it, by your own admission.

This is entirely "you're not qualified to commentate on the McDonalds' breakfast menu, much less men", but now you're digging this ridiculous hole for yourself where you deliberately avoid owning what you did by rephrasing it as something that happened to you as opposed to something you freely chose and did-- yeah, sure, you don't feel shame about it, that's why you describe it with all the active voice of a knife-wielding murderer saying "the knife went in".

Don't waste time acting like your experience afforded you knowledge about anyone. I'll crack and buy a whore to solve my "perpetual virginity"? Even though it would net me none of what I actually want in a relationship, even though I'd be painfully aware of the farcicality of the <2 hr arrangement, and even though doing so would expose me to general danger, venereal disease and the long arm of the law?

This is being predicted by someone who-- again-- only avoided being murdered by dangerous men she put herself at the mercy of by associating with other dangerous men she put herself at the mercy of. This is being predicted by someone whose only major experiences with men have been when they rented out her body to use as a Fleshlight. No wonder you can only read "you should feel bad for being a whore!" and "women won't have sex with me!"-- those are close to the only things you've gotten from men that weren't money and sex, in that order.

Which btw I do, because despite my past I am still a woman, and capable of having kids still.

You put a price tag on your own body and reduced yourself to a self-warming Tenga. You have the least right out of anyone here to talk about the value of life.

You've already said that you would never have children, and you consider that your contribution to society. You've decided to have no stake in the future of the community.

If men can't talk about something that "doesn't concern them" because they can't give birth (even though they can be chased from coast to coast to pay child support, and even though there's zero problem with them manning every segment of the abortion institution), women who have decided they'll never have kids on account of wallowing in self-pity about how they (willingly) acted as a net detriment to society deserve even less of a say.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

How do you guys take your fetal remains? I tried subbing them in for tomato in a bloody mary but it was a bit too chunky. I find going half and half with tomato juice strikes a good balance with the sweetness of the tomato and the savory of the child chunks.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You can add it to your list right next to living babies lol

I care about babies, not fetuses. You right-wing retards love fetuses, but not babies.

Again, retard. What is more gangsta nazi shit? Killing babies or not?

Killing babies would be, but a fetus isn't a baby. I know your diseased brain, which is suffering from crippling autism, still can't comprehend the difference. Again, I realize your autism has turned you into a Puritanical boomer who wants to bring Taliban-like theocracy to the world, but keep your religious shit out of laws

 

[Lurker]

How narcissistic are you?

It was bad enough when you salivated at the idea of shutting me down in the bizarre hypothetical situation that I sought your services, as if I ever would, and as if I could ever stand to gain from doing so. But you think the whole point of that comment is "you should feel bad about your life's choices" when it's actually "shut the hell up, you don't know a single thing about men, your once being a whore never afforded you that knowledge, and don't ever suggest that I would ever try securing a whore's services-- let alone yours".


It's not "things that happened", it's things you did. Whoredom didn't happen to you-- you chose it, by your own admission.

This is entirely "you're not qualified to commentate on the McDonalds' breakfast menu, much less men", but now you're digging this ridiculous hole for yourself where you deliberately avoid owning what you did by rephrasing it as something that happened to you as opposed to something you freely chose and did-- yeah, sure, you don't feel shame about it, that's why you describe it with all the active voice of a knife-wielding murderer saying "the knife went in".

Don't waste time acting like your experience afforded you knowledge about anyone. I'll crack and buy a whore to solve my "perpetual virginity"? Even though it would net me none of what I actually want in a relationship, even though I'd be painfully aware of the farcicality of the <2 hr arrangement, and even though doing so would expose me to both venereal disease and the long arm of the law?

This is being predicted by someone who-- again-- only avoided being murdered by dangerous men she put herself at the mercy of by associating with other dangerous men she put herself at the mercy of. This is being predicted by someone whose only major experiences with men have been when they rented out her body to use as a Fleshlight. No wonder you can only read "you should feel bad for being a whore!" and "women won't have sex with me!"-- those are close to the only things you've gotten from men that weren't money and sex, in that order.


You put a price tag on your own body and reduced yourself to a self-warming Tenga. You have the least right out of anyone here to talk about the value of life.

You've already said that you would never have children, and you consider that your contribution to society. You've decided to have no stake in the future of the community.

If men can't talk about something that "doesn't concern them" because they can't give birth (even though they can be chased from coast to coast to pay child support, and even though there's zero problem with them manning every segment of the abortion institution), women who have decided they'll never have kids on account of wallowing in self-pity about how they (willingly) acted as a net detriment to society deserve even less of a say.

REEEEEEEEEE WAHMAN WON'T FUCK MEEEEEEE

 

[Lurker]

How do you guys take your fetal remains? I tried subbing them in for tomato in a bloody mary but it was a bit too chunky. I find going half and half with tomato juice strikes a good balance with the sweetness of the tomato and the savory of the child chunks.

I'm more partial to having an aborted fetus closet where I put my thousands of aborted fetuses in jars and then when I have a living child I'll shove them in the closet every time they're bad so they know that they could have been one of them.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

REEEEEEEEEE WAHMAN WON'T FUCK MEEEEEEE

"There isn't a timeline where I would ever want to have sex with you, get a grip."
(out of nowhere) "You're just mad because women won't have sex with you!"

You're a damaged person with no good relationship with men.

 

[Lurker]

"There isn't a timeline where I would ever want to have sex with you, get a grip."
(out of nowhere) "You're just mad because women won't have sex with you!"

You're a damaged person with no good relationship with men.

remember, no woman will ever want a genetic dead-end like you, and every single day everyone rejoices that incels like you will never be able to poison the gene pool.

maybe god is real after all.

 

[gang weeder]

By doing brain scans
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Also I think @Epic Fail Man was joking there

And what exactly are the lights on the skull supposed to mean? Electrical activity in the brain = consciousness?

 

[Kermit Jizz]

And what exactly are the lights on the skull supposed to mean? Electrical activity in the brain = consciousness?

Nigger how high are you?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

I care about babies, not fetuses. You right-wing retards love fetuses, but not babies.

More like care about killing babies by dehumanizing them with words lol

Killing babies would be, but a fetus isn't a baby.

Killing humans would be (not cool), but Jews aren't human.

yada yada sucking your own cock