The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

You never explained why opposing baby murder means you must also oppose the death penalty.
Do you or do you not value all human life nigger? You can be ideologically inconsistent if you want but I'm allowed to think you're stupid for not thinking through your own values.
 
Child rapists deserve the death penalty. Innocent children do not. Where is the inconsistency?
There is literally no point in continuing this conversation if you're going to be like this. Please try to describe the terminus between when a life has value and when life no longer has value. Is it only child rape? What about regular rape? Is aborting fetuses that will grow up to be rapists okay? At least try to flesh out your worldview.
 
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I explain in the previous reply (see above)
You made a baseless assertion.

Lol calm down, fundie retard. Go to Afghanistan with your fellow Taliban where you can have the theocracy you want.
Long way to say "I concede the point".

Umm no. They had authorization. You are fine with removing women's body autonomy but not your own. Hypocritical piece of shit. Although since you're an evangelical puritan, that should be expected.
Again, false. Prove they had full FDA approval, then. That came later (or did it, idk if it ever even received a full FDA approval but certainly not at first).

Nobody is interested in violating a women's bodily autonomy, the only concern is regarding the life of her offspring; she can otherwise do almost anything she wishes just like men, but not kill her offspring.

Does Stanford count? I know you think you know more than them because you go to your mega church, but they know more about this than your autistic brain does:


"The agency is catching up to health experts who in recent months have recommended ditching cloth masks for N95 respirators or 3-ply surgical masks as a defense against the highly transmissible Omicron variant. The Mayo Clinic, for example, now requires all staff and visitors to wear N95 or KN95 masks.

“We have known for many months that COVID-19 is airborne and therefore, a simple cloth mask is not going to cut it,” Leana Wen, MD, an emergency doctor and public health professor at George Washington University, said last month."

So, like I said, I wear a mask and even tolerate mandates because they help a little, but they're not that helpful. Even if "they're not gonna cut it," I still choose to wear one because I feel like it's better than nothing.

You have the worldview of a fundamentalist evangelical puritanical boomer, so yes, you're a boomer. The future is now, old man.
Morality has no age, there's plenty of degenerate boomers like you.

They can't without medical intervention, but either way, you want to remove body autonomy.
No baby can survive without medical attention, and stop saying "body" autonomy you autist, it's "bodily autonomy", and NO, nobody is interested in removing bodily autonomy, only protecting it.

So you love "based" stuff but you're against abortion? Abortion is as based as it gets. Oh, you only love "Based" stuff that lets you discriminate against people you hate. I got it. You'd better hope there's no hell like you religious fundies claim, because Jesus would be pissed at your hypocritical manlet ass.
Abortion IS discrimination against people you hate, the unborn; you discriminate based on one's stage of development. It's essentially a form of ageism.

More projection, you're sweating deep down, praying to Jesus to please, PLEASE not exist.

It's a human fetus, not a formed human. I know your diseased brain can't handle context, but it's important here, spaz.
A baby isn't a "formed human" either you absolute retard, it's still developing and has more in common with a 6 month "fetus" you'd happily kill than with a fully formed adult.

You merely arbitrarily choose the point of viability as a cutoff to kill humans in earlier stages of development. You could just as easily justify killing a born baby if you wanted to, you have no objective criteria by which to base your decisions on. Being viable outside the womb doesn't give it any more value than it had a day prior to its viability.

You're just drawing your own personal line in the sand, and your line is different even among each of your fellow pro-abortion cultists. The only consistent argument is that of life from conception, ANYTHING else is arbitrary, subjective, purely feelings based bullshit.

Now go turn on CNN like a good regressive boomer, then go to your Atheist church so you can pray for a trip to San Francisco so you can be with your fellow Atheistic degenerates.
 
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There is literally no point in continuing this conversation if you're going to be like this. Please try to describe the terminus between when a life has value and when life no longer has value. Is it only child rape? What about regular rape? Is aborting fetuses that will grow up to be rapists okay? At least try to flesh out your worldview.

My opinion is a totally normie tier take that most regular people have. The specifics make no difference because there is no situation where a fetus could possibly commit a crime of any sort, much less one warranting the death penalty.
 
A baby isn't a "formed human" either you absolute retard, it's still developing and has more in common with a 6 month "fetus" you'd happily kill than with a fully formed adult.

You merely arbitrarily choose the point of viability as a cutoff to kill humans in earlier stages of development. You could just as easily justify killing a born baby if you wanted to, you have no objective criteria by which to base your decisions on. Being viable outside the womb doesn't give it any more value than it had a day prior to its viability.

You're just drawing your own personal line in the sand, and your line is different even among each of your fellow pro-abortion cultists. The only consistent argument is that of life from conception, ANYTHING else is arbitrary, subjective, purely feelings based bullshit.
I think this is a good point, which is why I like your or @snailslime's ethical framework a little better. It's easy to understand "it's a baby once it has fully developed human DNA" or "it's a baby once the nervous system is functioning beyond effective brain death."

IMO survival outside the womb is kinda an awkward place to draw the line between "human" and "clump of cells."
 
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I think this is a good point, which is why I like your or @snailslime's ethical framework a little better. It's easy to understand "it's a baby once it has fully developed human DNA" or "it's a baby once the nervous system is functioning beyond effective brain death."

IMO survival outside the womb is kinda an awkward place to draw the line between "human" and "clump of cells."
The problem with @snailslime is she bizarrely won't concede that a fetus is life. Not even human life, but a life period. I've tried explaining that even the simplest of life still qualifies, such as amoeba. She won't budge though.
 
imagine being mad that someone trusts a scientist more than a random joe shmoe on the internet.

did you fail high school?
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Long way to say "I concede the point".
Nope, it's truth. You religious zealots want to turn us into a theocracy. Fuck your religion.
Again, false. Prove they had full FDA approval, then. That came later (or did it, idk if it ever even received a full FDA approval but certainly not at first).
Bullshit, they had FDA approval. That's why they were able to do it. Jesus christ you're retarded. Stop listening to Alex Jones for your medical information you retard.

Nobody is interested in violating a women's bodily autonomy, the only concern is regarding the life of her offspring; she can otherwise do almost anything she wishes just like men, but not kill her offspring.
Bullshit. You and your fellow zealots want to remove women's body autonomy.


"The agency is catching up to health experts who in recent months have recommended ditching cloth masks for N95 respirators or 3-ply surgical masks as a defense against the highly transmissible Omicron variant. The Mayo Clinic, for example, now requires all staff and visitors to wear N95 or KN95 masks.

“We have known for many months that COVID-19 is airborne and therefore, a simple cloth mask is not going to cut it,” Leana Wen, MD, an emergency doctor and public health professor at George Washington University, said last month."

So, like I said, I wear a mask and even tolerate mandates because they help a little, but they're not that helpful. Even if "they're not gonna cut it," I still choose to wear one because I feel like it's better than nothing.
Again, I realize you have crippling, debilitating autism based on how you post. It's very, very obvious. That's why your diseased brain can't understand how percentages work. No one is saying that N95 masks are not more effective than cloth masks. But even cloth masks do help the spread. Again, I realize you have severe autism, which is why you act like a puritanical boomer despite being in your 20s and can't understand how percentages work, but even your simpleton brain can probably understand that even a 50% effectiveness is better than 0%.
From your own link:
The CDC update doesn’t come out and say Americans should avoid cloth masks but clarifies that some kinds of masks work better than others.

So thank you for proving my point and helping prove that you are indeed an uneducated, low IQ simpleton. I also realize you are a right-wing nutjob who actively hates education and educated people, so you think that you know more than Stanford Health about medicine because you watch Alex Jones, but you really don't.

Morality has no age, there's plenty of degenerate boomers like you.
I am not a boomer, but you have no morality and do act like a boomer. If you had morality, you'd be all for trying to prevent the spread of a pandemic. Instead you tardrage about women who have sex and want to punish them because you're an unlovable spaz who will never touch a vagina.
No baby can survive without medical attention, and stop saying "body" autonomy you autist, it's "bodily autonomy", and NO, nobody is interested in removing bodily autonomy, only protecting it.
Not true at all, retard. Newborns survive outside the womb just fine without medical intervention.
Abortion IS discrimination against people you hate, the unborn; you discriminate based on one's stage of development. It's essentially a form of ageism.
What? That's retarded even by your post standards. I am not saying "Abort every baby", I am saying "women have body autonomy and thus can decide their own bodily consent". You, however, want to remove women's body autonomy because you hate women.

More projection, you're sweating deep down, praying to Jesus to please, PLEASE not exist.
No, Jesus would be pissed at you. He would be pro-welfare. He would tell you to wear masks and get vaccinated. He said to love everyone and help everyone. You want to do neither. If there's hell, you and your fellow evangelical zealots will be burning in it for eternity.

A baby isn't a "formed human" either you absolute retard, it's still developing and has more in common with a 6 month "fetus" you'd happily kill than with a fully formed adult.
A baby is a formed human, though. A baby human. A fetus isn't a human yet.
You merely arbitrarily choose the point of viability as a cutoff to kill humans in earlier stages of development. You could just as easily justify killing a born baby if you wanted to, you have no objective criteria by which to base your decisions on. Being viable outside the womb doesn't give it any more value than it had a day prior to its viability.
Maybe based on the criteria of you religious zealots, but most people don't want to live in a theocracy because you're insecure about the fact no woman will ever let you have sex with her.
You're just drawing your own personal line in the sand, and your line is different even among each of your fellow pro-abortion cultists. The only consistent argument is that of life from conception, ANYTHING else is arbitrary, subjective, purely feelings based bullshit.
Why is conception considered such a hard line in the sand? A lot of conceptions don't end up in a birth. Again, only you religious fundie nutjobs want to ban abortion and the US isn't a theocracy. Go to Afghanistan so you can be with your fellow taliban.

Now go turn on CNN like a good regressive boomer, then go to your Atheist church so you can pray for a trip to San Francisco so you can be with your fellow Atheistic degenerates.
Lol at someone who wants to ban abortion calling someone else "regressive". I realize you're an uneducated right-wing nutjob who hates education, but look up the word, retard. Then go to your mega church like a good little evangelical boomer.

Also, welcome back Erischan/Feetloaf (you make it way too obvious by your posting style, retard)! Glad to see you're still an evangelical puritanical zealot. Maybe someday you'll drop the act and get a hobby and meet a woman who will let you have sex with her.
 
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