The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[FEETLOAF]

Source?

my ass

 

[Freya]

18% of american pregnancies result in abortion.
92% of abortions happen within 13 weeks.
(First brain function begins at about 7 weeks. It coincides with the first human fetal movement)

This means that 0.08*0.18 = 0.166

1.5% of pregnancies end in an abortion of human fetuses with functioning brain and nervous system.

There are about 600.000 abortions per year. This means that 600.000*0.08 = 48000 human fetuses with functioning brains are killed each year.

Who cares

 

[Android raptor]

Another fun statistic: Less than 0.01% of those are due to medical complications, conceived through rape or incest, or are otherwise non-elective procedures. The other 99.99% of abortions in the US are simply "I don't want this human being to inconvenience my life, murder it for me please."


"Pro-choicers" are my favorite political lolcow. The shit they say is hilarious.

The people that don't think a woman should get the death sentence for yeeting an embryo or want to force a batshit insane lesbian to have kids are the lolcow?

Idk, seems like cowshielding to me. Especially since like 3/4 the content in Tard Baby General comes from prolifers.

 

[Freya]

The people that don't think a woman should get the death sentence for yeeting an embryo or want to force a batshit insane lesbian to have kids are the lolcow?

Idk, seems like cowshielding to me. Especially since like 3/4 the content in Tard Baby General comes from prolifers.

The pro-lifers have taught me that embryos and brainless frog babies are the highest forms of humanity

 

[Android raptor]

The pro-lifers have taught me that embryos and brainless frog babies are the highest forms of humanity

Don't forget babies that are mentally normally but physically so fucked they live in constant agony and have to be revived daily, ala Tinslee. Texas Right To Life are the big group forcing doctors to keep torturing her and prolonging her I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream existence.

Everyone else can get fucked though, especially if you're poor.

 

[FEETLOAF]

Don't forget babies that are mentally normally but physically so fucked they live in constant agony and have to be revived daily, ala Tinslee. Texas Right To Life are the big group forcing doctors to keep torturing her and prolonging her I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream existence.

Everyone else can get fucked though, especially if you're poor.

This is the kind of mental gymnastics and coping I love to see.

 

[Android raptor]

This is the kind of mental gymnastics and coping I love to see.

I'm not sure you know what those terms mean, since my post is about an actual, ongoing situation. The hospital wants to take a terminally ill baby off life support because they feel like all they're doing is needlessly torturing a baby, and Texas Right to Life wants the baby torture to continue. That case gets brought up a lot in Tard Baby, probably because it's the most horrifying one after the Empathic Nutritionist.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Why does anyone appeal to the development of certain body structures after establishing that the fetus is a growing organism with a human genome? Are amputees less human because they have less of the typical human body structure?

 

[FEETLOAF]

I'm not sure you know what those terms mean, since my post is about an actual, ongoing situation. The hospital wants to take a terminally ill baby off life support because they feel like all they're doing is needlessly torturing a baby, and Texas Right to Life wants the baby torture to continue. That case gets brought up a lot in Tard Baby, probably because it's the most horrifying one after the Empathic Nutritionist.

Pro-choicer "logic:" Find the most obscene and obscure case possible and try to use it to justify all the other cases where it's literally just premeditated and unjustifiable murder.
I'll be willing to entertain your edge cases when you're reasonable on the normal cases.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I have no issues with abortion, I think it should continue to be legal, and no amount of traditionalist whining about "muh murder" and "muh sanctity of life" will change my mind.

This whole debate is pointless and ridiculous. We're just going in circles.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I have no issues with abortion, I think it should continue to be legal, and no amount of traditionalist whining about "muh murder" and "muh sanctity of life" will change my mind.

what about non-traditionalist whining

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

want to force a batshit insane lesbian to have kids

They're just trying to rawdog you, don't worry about it.

 

[Syaoran Li]

what about non-traditionalist whining

At this point, nothing can change my mind. The Yahwehists have poisoned that well too badly and besides, I can't get pregnant so it's not even an issue that's much of a concern for me on an individual level.

I'll admit, I can get angry with some of my responses but from an entirely calm and rational perspective, the abortion debate is a waste of time. There are far more important issues in our society to tackle first.

Let's tackle the problems of corporatism and globalism first before arguing about abortion.

Arguing about abortion is like trying to change the curtains on the Lusitania.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

This whole debate is pointless and ridiculous.

fun, like watch this:

all the other cases where it's literally just premeditated and unjustifiable murder.

if it's legal it literally isn't literal murder

 

[Syaoran Li]

if it's legal it literally isn't literal murder

This, but unironically

Besides, we've got a lot more pressing issues to deal with. Sperging about abortion while corporations continue their solidification of a woke corporatist dystopian oligarchy.

 

[Nom Carver]

This, but unironically

So if it was made legal to rape people, would that mean it's morally A-ok to do so?

Or are we just tip-toeing around words and exact definitions to ever so slightly sugar-coat your point that killing unborn children is fine?

 

[Zarael]

This, but unironically

Besides, we've got a lot more pressing issues to deal with. Sperging about abortion while corporations continue their solidification of a woke corporatist dystopian oligarchy.

They're both symptoms of the same rot of modernity. You're basically saying "Hey stop focusing on that head of the Hydra, come over here and focus on this head instead!"

 

[Zero Day Defense]

At this point, nothing can change my mind. The Yahwehists have poisoned that well too badly

That kind of reasoning is super lame.

There are far more important issues in our society to tackle first.

Let's tackle the problems of corporatism and globalism first before arguing about abortion.

Merking 60 million kids since Roe v. Wade and declining birthrates in nearly all the Western world is one of the excuses corporatists and globalists use when pushing for the import of serfs, legality be damned.

That's without discussing abortion as a part of a complex of social phenomena that's been rotting out our society and especially disadvantaging certain demographics.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Or are we just tip-toeing around words and exact definitions to ever so slightly sugar-coat your point that killing unborn children is fine?

killing is the correct term, if you believe the life at conception angle. 'Literal murder' is the premeditated and unlawful killing, hence legal abortion in the US is literally not murder.

of course killing's definition angles on an act causing death, hence why its application wholly depends on where one assigns 'life' as beginning. and this is the point from which there is no bridge between opposing sides, and rather an endless trench of shitposting saltmining fun therein

 

[Syaoran Li]

That kind of reasoning is super lame.


Merking 60 million kids since Roe v. Wade and declining birthrates in nearly all the Western world is one of the prime excuses corporatists and globalists use when pushing for the import of serfs, legality be damned.

That's without discussing abortion as a part of a complex of social phenomenon that's been rotting out our society.

Dude, in my opinion, society has been rotting out a lot longer than Roe v. Wade.

I agree these culture war debates are part of a wider complex of social phenomena that have been rotting out society but I think we're gonna fundamentally disagree on what that phenomenon is and what the source is.

That's a subject best discussed in another thread though.