The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[The High Prophet of Truth]

ok, but why is it murder tho?

I don't consider abortion murder, but I dislike how casual it's treated.

 

[KateHikes14]

which is always cute because they don't realize that would just lead to women getting knocked up and aborting solely to get hystos because they're so fucking hard to get

In what insane place are you hanging out that women are just desperate to go through menopause before 30?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Murder is not an option.

Do you think single mothers should be allowed to kill their newborn babies if they can't feed them?

I agree that murder isn't an option. Good thing abortion isn't murder.

 

[FEETLOAF]

Teenagers with raging hormones are gonna fuck

Many teenagers do not.

It's better to teach them safe sex and let them have options than force them to be stuck raising a kid for 18 years just because some retard evangelicals think abortion is murder.

It's better to teach your children not to participate in fornication and to wait until marriage.

Abstinence sexual education has been shown to not work too well.

Duh. Mass education doesn't work well period.
You'll notice every pro-lifer in this entire thread offers PERSONAL solutions. We tell you, specifically, to teach your kids, specifically, how to behave.
We say that if you, specifically, do not have sex, then you, specifically, will not have an unwanted child ever. Because this is true.
We do not offer society-wide solutions that are meant to be applied by a bureaucracy to masses of children.
Know why?
Because that's not how you raise children properly.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Good thing abortion isn't murder.

As I explained to another pro-abortionist on this very thread seven minutes ago:

Life begins at conception.

Ending human life willingly and with malice aforethought is murder.

 

[FEETLOAF]

As I explained to another pro-abortionist on this very thread seven minutes ago:

Please be patient with him, he went to public school.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Life begins at conception.

why does it begin at conception?

How is it NOT murder?

I don't like to make this comparison, but it needs to be made. Germs aren't murdered. Animals aren't murdered. What's the difference between a germ and a little congregation of cells?

 

[FEETLOAF]

why does it begin at conception?

Things generally begin when they start existing, which is literally what "conception" means.

I don't like to make this comparison, but it needs to be made. Germs aren't murdered. Animals aren't murdered. What's the difference between a germ and a little congregation of cells?

Let's do the checklist for germs and animals.

Human
Life
Killed
Malice Aforethought

Hope this helps!

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

As I explained to another pro-abortionist on this very thread seven minutes ago:

Life begins when the fetus can live on its own. Not at conception. A lot of pregnancies end before the mother even knows she's pregnant, so by your logic, they're all guilty of manslaughter.

Many teenagers do not.

It's better to teach your children not to participate in fornication and to wait until marriage.

Duh. Mass education doesn't work well period.
You'll notice every pro-lifer in this entire thread offers PERSONAL solutions. We tell you, specifically, to teach your kids, specifically, how to behave.
We say that if you, specifically, do not have sex, then you, specifically, will not have an unwanted child ever. Because this is true.
We do not offer society-wide solutions that are meant to be applied by a bureaucracy to masses of children.
Know why?
Because that's not how you raise children properly.

You are proof that mass education doesn't work well, I suppose.

But teenagers are gonna do what they want. That's why they're teenagers. I know you have no sex drive because of crippling autism and eating way too many hot pockets, but most of us do have a sex drive and it's in our biology for humans to have sex. People are gonna fuck despite what you tell them.

 

[FEETLOAF]

Life begins when the fetus can live on its own.

A fetus is alive. "Live on its own" by its own language implies that it is living, just not on its own.

But teenagers are gonna do what they want.

Is your teenager, specifically, going to do what they want? If so, you're a bad parent.

but most of us do have a sex drive and it's in our biology for humans to have sex.

All of us do, but a drive is not an infallible control over you. You can literally just choose not to stick your dick in whores, it's actually trivially easy. Millions of people do it.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Things generally begin when they start existing, which is literally what "conception" means.

Let's do the checklist for germs and animals.

Human
Life
Killed
Malice Aforethought

Hope this helps!

it's human only because you think it's human. what makes a human? is anybody actually human? I don't think we can expand the range of what being a human means that wide so as to include the life that exists directly after conception

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

A fetus is alive. "Live on its own" by its own language implies that it is living, just not on its own.

Tumors are also alive. That doesn't mean they're human.

Is your teenager, specifically, going to do what they want? If so, you're a bad parent.

Most likely. You can't be watching your teenager 24/7.

All of us do, but a drive is not an infallible control over you. You can literally just choose not to stick your dick in whores, it's actually trivially easy. Millions of people do it.

Just because you are so gross and insufferable that women won't have sex with you doesn't mean all of us have that problem. You shouldn't try and punish women just because they won't fuck you

 

[FEETLOAF]

what makes a human?

Alexa what is a species?

Tumors are also alive. That doesn't mean they're human.

Yes it does. If you find some random tumor cell you can go, "Gee, I wonder what species this is?" and run a genetic analysis, guess what the answer will be?

Just because you are so gross and insufferable that women won't have sex with you doesn't mean all of us have that problem. You shouldn't try and punish women just because they won't fuck you

Are you implying that you have sex with literally 100% of women who will consent to sex with you?
Gross.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Yes it does. If you find some random tumor cell you can go, "Gee, I wonder what species this is?" and run a genetic analysis, guess what the answer will be?

So you are saying having a tumor removed is also murder?

Are you implying that you have sex with literally 100% of women who will consent to sex with you?
Gross.

No, but if a woman who consents to having sex with me is attractive and I am available, I will. Sex is fun. It's healthy to have regular sex. It feels good. Why not have sex?

 

[FEETLOAF]

So you are saying having a tumor removed is also murder?

No, just as having a lung removed isn't. The human that tumor was a part of is still alive.

No, but if a woman who consents to having sex with me is attractive and I am available, I will. Sex is fun. It's healthy to have regular sex. It feels good. Why not have sex?

It is not healthy to fornicate regularly with random people who are transient in your life. It's unhealthy. It is empty and meaningless hedonism and is no way to live a life.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

No, just as having a lung removed isn't. The human that tumor was a part of is still alive.

And the human that the fetus (which is not a human yet) is attached to is still alive.

It is not healthy to fornicate regularly with random people who are transient in your life. It's unhealthy. It is empty and meaningless hedonism and is no way to live a life.

I disagree. Sex is fun. I prefer sex in a monogamous relationship (to avoid STDs and it does make it easier), but when I am single I have sex when I can. It's fun and sex isn't hedonistic. What makes sex hedonistic?

 

[ADHD]

In what insane place are you hanging out that women are just desperate to go through menopause before 30?

As long as the ovaries aren't removed with the uterus, the woman won't go through early menopause. Tubal ligation is a better option, though.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Life begins when the fetus can live on its own.

Let's say I need to be put on dialysis. I can't live without that dialysis. Am I not alive?

it's human only because you think it's human.

It's human because it has human DNA.

 

[Prester John]

why does it begin at conception?

When would you propose that it begins, instead?

Traditionally, we pronounce someone as dead with the cessation of the heartbeat.
If dead, then no heartbeat.
The contrapositive, logically, is:
If heartbeat, then not dead.

If a heartbeat is detected, which occurs around 6 weeks, why would that not constitute life?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

When would you propose that it begins, instead?

Traditionally, we pronounce someone as dead with the cessation of the heartbeat.
If dead, then no heartbeat.
The contrapositive, logically, is:
If heartbeat, then not dead.

If a heartbeat is detected, which occurs around 6 weeks, why would that not constitute life?

Heartbeat doesn't happen at conception, though. These tards are saying conception is life.

Let's say I need to be put on dialysis. I can't live without that dialysis. Am I not alive?

You can survive a few days without dialysis even with renal failure