The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[Ingmar Aspergman]

I have yet to hear any good argument as to why it’s not murder.

It literally doesn’t matter if it’s not biologically sapient yet, the end product of an abortion is one less unambiguously human and sentient being who would otherwise be alive.

Nah, women shouldn't be forced to give up her body autonomy just because some low-IQ religious tards like you were brainwashed by evangelical propaganda and think abortion is murder

 

[Almighty MoeBro Nation]

How is this shit still a debate? People don't just get abortions for the lulz. Forcing a baby on a mother who can't properly take care of it is just going to bring another druggie or criminal into the world. Abortion laws being passed are correlated with huge decreases in crime rates. They're literally keeping you from the scary brown people

In an ideal world we wouldn't need abortions because people would be smart enough to wear condoms

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I have yet to hear any good argument as to why it’s not murder.

It literally doesn’t matter if it’s not biologically sapient yet, the end product of an abortion is one less unambiguously human and sentient being who would otherwise be alive.

How is it murder? It's not a living, breathing human.

I've yet to hear how you guys are okay with taking away a pregnant woman's body autonomy but you throw temper tantrums about vaccine mandates. Taking away body autonomy means the government is gonna be able to force you to donate blood or organs. After all, if someone needs some of your blood, isn't it murder to not give it to them?

 

[Muh Vagina]

You can't disregard a claim just because you don't agree with his general stance. If his claims are false, then they can be discounted, but if they are true, then there may be considerable flaws with the study that could affect its conclusion. You also, seem rather dismissive of religion. Aren't many physicists religious or philosophical?

Weird, I haven't been getting notifications for this thread until now.

Anyways, somebody working for the pope has a clear agenda. They are focusing less on science and more on their fee fees.

There are religious scientists, but the good ones know to keep God out of their work.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

How is this shit still a debate? People don't just get abortions for the lulz. Forcing a baby on a mother who can't properly take care of it is just going to bring another druggie or criminal into the world. Abortion laws being passed are correlated with huge decreases in crime rates. They're literally keeping you from the scary brown people

In an ideal world we wouldn't need abortions because people would be smart enough to wear condoms

So you're saying drug addicts don't deserve to live? Assuming you're right that it's a guarantee they'll end up that way (it's not).

How is it murder? It's not a living, breathing human.

I've yet to hear how you guys are okay with taking away a pregnant woman's body autonomy but you throw temper tantrums about vaccine mandates. Taking away body autonomy means the government is gonna be able to force you to donate blood or organs. After all, if someone needs some of your blood, isn't it murder to not give it to them?

It's living, that's a fact, stop lying. It's also breathing--as in, receiving oxygen to live.

Vaccines are a legitimate "my body, my choice" matter. The baby isn't the mother's body no matter how much you scream, and they shouldn't have the right to kill it just because they no longer want their invited guest.

If someone needs my blood then I should give it to them if I want to, I'd feel obligated especially if they were a decent person. However, they're not my family, and I didn't willingly conceive them and so therefore have no moral responsibility to them. Totally different situation.

There are religious scientists, but the good ones know to keep God out of their work.

What's this even supposed to mean? What do you think "bad" religious scientists do, run their experiments by God first to get some input?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

How is it murder? It's not a living, breathing human.

It is.

People don't just get abortions for the lulz.

They do. Especially you halfwit americans. heard a story recently about a woman going to get an abortion, not her first one, at 8 months. She would have gotten the abortion too. But someone convinced her to look at a picture of an 8 month old non-breathing non-human clump of cells and she freaked the fuck out. Apparently she didn't know what a baby looks like before they're born lol
She didn't get an abortion after that shit.

 

[Muh Vagina]

It is.

They do. Especially you halfwit americans. heard a story recently about a woman going to get an abortion, not her first one, at 8 months. She would have gotten the abortion too. But someone convinced her to look at a picture of an 8 month old non-breathing non-human clump of cells and she freaked the fuck out. Apparently she didn't know what a baby looks like before they're born lol
She didn't get an abortion after that shit.

Surely you can provide a link to this story?

 

[Sanshain]

Anyways, somebody working for the pope has a clear agenda.

As opposed to the agenda of somebody who earns their living advocating for pro-abortion laws?

 

[contradiction of terns]

So you're saying drug addicts don't deserve to live? Assuming you're right that it's a guarantee they'll end up that way (it's not).

It's living, that's a fact, stop lying. It's also breathing--as in, receiving oxygen to live.

Vaccines are a legitimate "my body, my choice" matter. The baby isn't the mother's body no matter how much you scream, and they shouldn't have the right to kill it just because they no longer want their invited guest.

If someone needs my blood then I should give it to them if I want to, I'd feel obligated especially if they were a decent person. However, they're not my family, and I didn't willingly conceive them and so therefore have no moral responsibility to them. Totally different situation.



What's this even supposed to mean? What do you think "bad" religious scientists do, run their experiments by God first to get some input?

Fetuses do not breathe in the womb. The mother breathes for them and oxygen is transferred through the placenta and umbilical cord.

Basically the same as a braindead person in a coma with a vent tube and a machine pumping oxygen for them.

You're half right in that it is a living thing and it does require oxygen, though. I'll grant you that. Then again, so does braindead coma vegetable.

 

[Muh Vagina]

As opposed to the agenda of somebody who earns their living advocating for pro-abortion laws?

Pro-choice people have science on their sides. There's a difference.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Surely you can provide a link to this story?

Matter of fact I can.

Undercover Video of Abortion Clinic Destroys Claim That Late-Term Abortions Are Medically Necessary

Conservative political commentator Steven Crowder conducted an undercover investigation inside a late-term abortion clinic and left pleading with God to save a child's life.

www1.cbn.com

 

[Get The Gerbil]

Seriously. "Forced pregnancy" in a country with access to numerous forms of hormonal and nonhormonal birth control (the Pill, IUDs, implants, condoms, diaphragms, spermicides, and emergency contraception, plus charting apps and the obvious ability to abstain altogether), yet somehow millions of women are magically getting knocked up with unwanted babies every day. It's pathetic and makes us women look hideously irresponsible, retarded, callous, and selfish, though I suppose that's modern feminism in a nutshell.

I agree with you, all these options available and people are still getting knocked up when they don't want to be. Shit can happen even when you do everything right, but it is also a failing of the schools. These options are great, but people have to know they're out there and how they work. Especially in the U.S, sex ed is a fucking joke. People need comprehensive sexual education in their teen years and are only getting a very watered down, very glossed-over version of what they need to know if they're being taught anything at all. It's a disgrace, and anti-abortion nuts in political power want to ban abortion without expanding access to the very things that help prevent them.

 

[Muh Vagina]

Matter of fact I can.

Undercover Video of Abortion Clinic Destroys Claim That Late-Term Abortions Are Medically Necessary

Conservative political commentator Steven Crowder conducted an undercover investigation inside a late-term abortion clinic and left pleading with God to save a child's life.

www1.cbn.com

LMFAO! CBN News? You can't even pretend to be impartial?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

LMFAO! CBN News? You can't even pretend to be impartial?

If it was CNN, would that be in your partiality of the woods?
Also you have no ass to laugh off of. You're a plank, a piece of wood in other terms.

 

[Muh Vagina]

If it was CNN, would that be in your partiality of the woods?
Also you have no ass to laugh off of. You're a plank, a piece of wood in other terms.

Hmm, an actual news source vs. some garbage founded by Pat Robertson. Gee, that's such a difficult choice.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Hmm, an actual news source vs. some garbage founded by Pat Robertson. Gee, that's such a difficult choice.

So what you're saying is that because you don't like Pat Whatshisface, the story is total bullshit, but you think CNN is an actual news source?

 

[Sanshain]

Pro-choice people have science on their sides. There's a difference.

Why is science better than anything else, though?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Why is science better than anything else, though?

Because with science you can cut your dick off and become an anime girl. But icky poo religion calls you possessed by the devil if you do that.

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

I have yet to hear any good argument as to why it’s not murder.

It literally doesn’t matter if it’s not biologically sapient yet, the end product of an abortion is one less unambiguously human and sentient being who would ot

Nah, women shouldn't be forced to give up her body autonomy just because some low-IQ religious tards like you were brainwashed by evangelical propaganda and think abortion is murder

How is it murder? It's not a living, breathing human.

I've yet to hear how you guys are okay with taking away a pregnant woman's body autonomy but you throw temper tantrums about vaccine mandates. Taking away body autonomy means the government is gonna be able to force you to donate blood or organs. After all, if someone needs some of your blood, isn't it murder to not give it to them?

You just read the first sentence of my comment didn’t you

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Why is science better than anything else, though?

Without science you wouldn't be typing this out.

I have yet to hear any good argument as to why it’s not murder.

It literally doesn’t matter if it’s not biologically sapient yet, the end product of an abortion is one less unambiguously human and sentient being who would ot

I guess when people break bricks, they are breaking houses then.

A fetus isn't a sapient being yet, so it's not murder. Stop trying to force your evangelical fundie bullshit on the rest of us.