The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

..which reduces the amount of children being murdered out of convenience.

No it doesn't. It just increases back alley abortions.

If they really wanted to lower abortions, they'd increase access to birth control and sexual education. However, there's American Taliban who want to ban that stuff, too

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

No it doesn't. It just increases back alley abortions.

If they really wanted to lower abortions, they'd increase access to birth control and sexual education. However, there's American Taliban who want to ban that stuff, too

Why would they need to do a back alley abortion when they can just travel out of state? Is there a provision that says they can't do that?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

So they do and if you abort them, they die, thus so murderino.

Nah, if they aren't born yet it's not murder.

So because a fetus is weaker than a newborn, that's why it's okay to murder them?

A fetus isn't a baby yet, so it's not murder.

Death will come either way naturaly, but forcing someone to die for your own concienience is, by any definition you attemt to semanticise, murder.
And I'll just say it before you're redundant brain starts spewing the same bullshit over and over again like it always does, a fetus is a human being, it does not have a personality, it may not have a heartbeat initially, it may not initially feel, it may not have arms or legs, also initially, but in a few weeks time it does, it grows, it does have arms and legs, a heart that beats and a personality is on the way. Granted in a culture fof godless death worship, the personality might end up like yours, so come to think of it maybe killing babies before they become like you isn't that bad of an idea.

Nope, you want to remove body autonomy to save lives (your words, not mine), thus, you are also arguing for forced vaccines and organ/blood donations. Sorry, chump, but you lose again.

Just because you want to punish women for having sex doesn't mean you should be able to take away their body autonomy.

Besides, all outlawing abortions does is increase back alley abortions. If you really wanted to limit abortions, you'd be pushing for more access to birth control and sexual education, but you don't actually give a shit about the fetus. You just want to punish women who have sex.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Why would they need to do a back alley abortion when they can just travel out of state? Is there a provision that says they can't do that?

If you are a poor 20 year old girl who lives in bumfuck Texas, how the hell are you going to get to another state?

 

[Czechem Republic]

No it doesn't.

That's horse shit and you know it. You make something desirable safe, cheap, and easy to get and more people will get it.

If it is not safe, cheap, and easy, people will still get it, but fewer.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

That's horse shit and you know it. You make something desirable safe, cheap, and easy to get and more people will get it.

If it is not safe, cheap, and easy, people will still get it, but fewer.

Not true at all. Roe vs Wade came around because women were dying from back alley abortions.

If you pro-lifers really wanted to get rid of abortions, you'd be pushing for free birth control and sexual education in schools, but instead, the American Taliban wants to outlaw those things, too

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

If you are a poor 20 year old girl who lives in bumfuck Texas, how the hell are you going to get to another state?

I was literally broke when I left bumfuck NY for Texas, I was also literally broke when I left bumfuck Texas for GA. You're acting like services like greyhound or other busing services doesn't exist.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I was literally broke when I left bumfuck NY for Texas, I was also literally broke when I left bumfuck Texas for GA. You're acting like services like greyhound or other busing services doesn't exist.

There's also the whole getting time off work thing, maybe childcare for other children you have, perhaps medical care and a place to stay afterwards, etc...

It's a medical procedure and women deserve body autonomy, too.

 

[Czechem Republic]

Not true at all. Roe vs Wade came around because women were dying from back alley abortions.

I want to see numbers, especially since you think that "You make something desirable safe, cheap, and easy to get and more people will get it.", which is something true for literally everything else, is false here for some reason.

you'd be pushing for free birth control and sexual education in schools,

Your answer to 'hey maybe we can stop killing children' is 'subsidize consequence-free sex'.

It's a medical procedure and women deserve body autonomy, too.

So much care for the poor wimmenz who willfully undertook the act that leads to the creation of a new life, zero care for the new life who didn't choose anything. Typical.

Nice MATI, faggot. Yes, I think murdering children out of convenience is fucked up.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I want to see numbers, especially since you think that "You make something desirable safe, cheap, and easy to get and more people will get it.", which is something true for literally everything else, is false here for some reason.

You make it sound like women just get abortions willy-nilly. They don't.

Your answer to 'hey maybe we can stop killing children' is 'subsidize consequence-free sex'.

Ahh, so you are an evangelical then. Sorry no woman will touch you and you thus want to punish them. People are gonna fuck, sorry that upsets you

So much care for the poor wimmenz who willfully undertook the act that leads to the creation of a new life, zero care for the new life. Typical.

You pro-life evangelicals only care about the baby until it's born. When welfare and all that such comes up, then you throw temper tantrums about it. You're not pro-life, you're pro-birth

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

There's also the whole getting time off work thing, maybe childcare for other children you have, perhaps medical care and a place to stay afterwards, etc...

Is this some bleeding heart argument I hear? I don't recall the initial argument about them having kids. Let's add more to this autistic argument: what race are they? Since you didn't add that, I'm going to add that: let's make her black so that way she is less likely to be in statically desolate region of Texas and she has more work available plus if she already has kids she can make the baby daddy and the state take care of them. Now she doesn't have an issue taking time off of work with her child support and getting a greyhound

 

[The Whore of Babylon]

That's horse shit and you know it. You make something desirable safe, cheap, and easy to get and more people will get it.

If it is not safe, cheap, and easy, people will still get it, but fewer.

there's scientific studies that prove you're a wrong faggot, which are incredibly easy to find online but I'm not expecting much from mouth breathing tards like you which it's why it's easier to just laugh at you. no wonder you're so obsessed with the "rights" of a brainless blob of fat and protein, they remind you of yourself much?

If you are a poor 20 year old girl who lives in bumfuck Texas, how the hell are you going to get to another state?

tbh I understand it if it's like the chris watts case where the baby was in like 8th month or so, like that's a whole ass baby by then and I don't think anyone would disagree

 

[Czechem Republic]

You make it sound like women just get abortions willy-nilly. They don't.

Oh please, do tell me more.

Ahh, so you are an evangelical then.

Nope. Agnostic at best. Just anti-murder.

When welfare and all that such comes up, then you throw temper tantrums about it.

Apparently "people have agency and should be responsible for themselves and their own decisions without infringing on the rights of others" is an unpopular take.

 

[The Whore of Babylon]

Oh please, do tell me more.


Nope. Agnostic at best. Just anti-murder.


Apparently "people have agency and should be responsible for themselves and their own decisions without infringing on the rights of others" is an unpopular take.

lmao so you don't even have a religious excuse, you're just a willing mong who can't read lmao

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Is this some bleeding heart argument I hear? I don't recall the initial argument about them having kids. Let's add more to this autistic argument: what race are they? Since you didn't add that, I'm going to add that: let's make her black so that way she is less likely to be in statically desolate region of Texas and she has more work available plus if she already has kids she can make the baby daddy and the state take care of them. Now she doesn't have an issue taking time off of work with her child support and getting a greyhound

Okay, take off work tomorrow and take a greyhound 1000 miles for a doctor's appointment, in a place where you know nobody, where you need care after. Then tell me how easy it is.

Oh please, do tell me more.

You really think women use abortion as a means of birth control?

Nope. Agnostic at best. Just anti-murder.

Good thing abortion isn't murder then.

Apparently "people have agency and should be responsible for themselves and their own decisions without infringing on the rights of others" is an unpopular take.

Do you really expect people to not fuck? It's in our biology and nature. Sorry that it upsets you that people have sex.

 

[Czechem Republic]

there's scientific studies that prove you're a wrong faggot

Then link some, and we can talk about their merits. If you haven't learned in the last 10 years that 'studies' are often not worth the paper they're printed on, especially on politicized topics, you are literally too stupid to live. You don't get to just swing your "TRUST MUH SCIENCE" dick around anymore.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Then link some, and we can talk about their merits. If you haven't learned in the last 10 years that 'studies' are often not worth the paper they're printed on, especially on politicized topics, you are literally too stupid to live. You don't get to just swing your "TRUST MUH SCIENCE" dick around anymore.

Since you hate science, shouldn't you be posting in A&H about how much you hate scientists and education?

 

[Czechem Republic]

You really think women use abortion as a means of birth control?

Given that most abortions are out of convenience, yes? Pro-aborts always bleed hearts about rape and incest when that's a sub-percent of all of them.

And it's not like you're shackled for 18 years. Plenty of parents who WANT children but who can't have them because of infertility and such would love to adopt.

Do you really expect people to not fuck?

I expect people to take whatever actions are necessary on their own time and their own money without taking innocent lives. For some that will be birth control, for some, condoms and other devices (all of which are stupid cheap), and for others, abstinence, since you literally can't get pregnant without a dude jizzing in you.

Since you hate science, shouldn't you be posting in A&H about how much you hate scientists and education?

Hard to hate something which wasn't even shown ITT, you illiterate mong.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

Okay, take off work tomorrow and take a greyhound 1000 miles for a doctor's appointment, in a place where you know nobody, where you need care after. Then tell me how easy it is.

Is this person retarded and can't plan in advance? Why does it need to be tomorrow? Why not two weeks out? Or a month out? Is there a hard limit to how you can plan out when you have an abortion?

 

[The Whore of Babylon]

Given that most abortions are out of convenience, yes? Pro-aborts always bleed hearts about rape and incest when that's a sub-percent of all of them.

And it's not like you're shackled for 18 years. Plenty of parents who WANT children but who can't have them because of infertility and such would love to adopt.


I expect people to take whatever actions are necessary on their own time and their own money without taking innocent lives. For some that will be birth control, for some, condoms and other devices (all of which are stupid cheap), and for others, abstinence, since you literally can't get pregnant without a dude jizzing in you.


Hard to hate something which wasn't even shown ITT, you illiterate mong.

lmao you literally said >much science. buddy the ceo of science could sit your ass down and explain the finer points of the debate and your gurgling tard gibbering would mumble some muh merder and muh chilluns and waddle away. try to learn how to read and google before your sped ass demands an "informed debate"