Plagued The Alt-Right

“You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
-John Ehrlichman, Domestic Policy Advisor for the Nixon administration, on the Controlled Substances Act of 1971
That alleged quote from Journalist Dan Baum has very little actual evidence to back it up, though it's trotted out quite frequently by people trying to pretend that drug laws are racist. Ehrlichman was extremely upset with Nixon for cutting him loose for his primary role in planning and executing the Watergate scandal and the fact that it, ultimately, cost him his law license and his freedom. The books he wrote about Nixon were panned for lacking credibility and essentially shitting on everyone to prop up his own reputation (see here). He spent the rest of his life being paid to do media interviews and selling tell-alls where he slandered Nixon's policies as much as possible with very little evidence to back it up.

Meanwhile, in reality, Nixon repealed mandatory minimums for marijuana possession, reducing sentencing guidelines from 10 years to 1 year and giving an option for judges to waive the 1 year sentence. He also prioritized halfway houses for treatment and directed officials to avoid prosecution for drug crimes in lieu of medical treatment or community outreach. If he wanted to make being black a crime why would he do that? I suggest reading The Fix, by Michael Massing if you want to read about Nixon's -actual- drug policy and the real failures of drug enforcement.
 
He already said his boss and coworkers don't give a shit, he's not going to get cancelled by some Twitter tranny from across the country. It's a shocker, but there are plenty of workplaces in America where nearly everybody's conservative. Get off the fucking Internet once in a while.


“You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
-John Ehrlichman, Domestic Policy Advisor for the Nixon administration, on the Controlled Substances Act of 1971
I think it's hilarious how much Nixon gets blamed for stuff LBJ did, since the pigs started really cracking down on marihuana possession during the LBJ administration.
 
there are plenty of workplaces in America where nearly everybody's conservative
>conservative
What do conservatives, well, conserve? Absolutely nothing. They couldn't even save the women's room. Shitlibs love "conservatives" because they're counterrevolutionary and thus born to lose while their enemies run amok and win the culture wars battle by battle. Have anyone, even self-described right-wingers, ever given a fuck about being "conservative"? Being "right-wing" is inherently a meaningless position unless it's backed up by substantive and actionable policies. As it stands, both Democrat and Republican parties offer nothing outside of 50 shades of neoliberalism and globohomo economics. They're both hostile towards White Americans; one expressly endorses policies designed to disenfranchise Whites while the other tries to keep the status quo by trying desperately to sell "free market" economics to demographics that couldn't give less of a fuck about them. Give it time and soon you'll see careerist whores and principally bankrupt talking heads like Charlie Kirk defending a 10 year old's right to go trans if the narrative is framed properly. The other guy being given a pass on making negative comments about trannies giving kids drugs is probably because the left is still divided on the issue. Once they reach a unified position and majority consensus (spoiler: they're going to be pro-trans once they can "debunk" your claims), they'll start attacking you and bring up comments you made in the past.

The vast majority of workplaces care first and foremost about your productivity and the reason you're still employed. If you're a vital part of the company, odds are you can still keep your job, although simply having controversial views on race can get you in trouble. What matters most is when you try to be actively pro-White. If you are on social media actively trying to organize for pro-White interests, then your enemies come out in full force. They have their shills in the media write hit pieces on you and then start going to your boss. If your boss steadfastly refuses to terminate you on account of your views, then they start investigating your place of employment. Those diversity hires suddenly let go for lack of productivity can now cry about their mistreatment in the workplace and then launch discrimination lawsuits against your boss for keeping a vile racist like you on the payroll.

tl;dr: if conservatives don't start adopting pro-White policies, expect to continue losing the culture wars and political influence.
 
>conservative
What do conservatives, well, conserve? Absolutely nothing. They couldn't even save the women's room. Shitlibs love "conservatives" because they're counterrevolutionary and thus born to lose while their enemies run amok and win the culture wars battle by battle. Have anyone, even self-described right-wingers, ever given a fuck about being "conservative"? Being "right-wing" is inherently a meaningless position unless it's backed up by substantive and actionable policies. As it stands, both Democrat and Republican parties offer nothing outside of 50 shades of neoliberalism and globohomo economics. They're both hostile towards White Americans; one expressly endorses policies designed to disenfranchise Whites while the other tries to keep the status quo by trying desperately to sell "free market" economics to demographics that couldn't give less of a fuck about them. Give it time and soon you'll see careerist whores and principally bankrupt talking heads like Charlie Kirk defending a 10 year old's right to go trans if the narrative is framed properly. The other guy being given a pass on making negative comments about trannies giving kids drugs is probably because the left is still divided on the issue. Once they reach a unified position and majority consensus (spoiler: they're going to be pro-trans once they can "debunk" your claims), they'll start attacking you and bring up comments you made in the past.

The vast majority of workplaces care first and foremost about your productivity and the reason you're still employed. If you're a vital part of the company, odds are you can still keep your job, although simply having controversial views on race can get you in trouble. What matters most is when you try to be actively pro-White. If you are on social media actively trying to organize for pro-White interests, then your enemies come out in full force. They have their shills in the media write hit pieces on you and then start going to your boss. If your boss steadfastly refuses to terminate you on account of your views, then they start investigating your place of employment. Those diversity hires suddenly let go for lack of productivity can now cry about their mistreatment in the workplace and then launch discrimination lawsuits against your boss for keeping a vile racist like you on the payroll.

tl;dr: if conservatives don't start adopting pro-White policies, expect to continue losing the culture wars and political influence.
Glad to see that you're using that Muslim with the long string of numbers for a username's copypasta.
I hate to break it to you, but no one of power on either side of the culture war sees it as a proxy for a race war, and attacking the mainstream of your party for not being obsessed with identitarianism is literally SJW behavior.
I suspect you wouldn't be attacked for "pro-White interests" if you didn't view public works as a zero-sum game where you have to fuck over non-whites to get good things for whites.
 
I suspect you wouldn't be attacked for "pro-White interests" if you didn't view public works as a zero-sum game where you have to fuck over non-whites to get good things for whites.

There you go, strawmanning and making bad faith arguments as if you know the full breadth of my views. Then again, what else can I expect from a sentient contradiction that is a Christian Anarchist?

Tell me, what can you suss out based on that post beyond just being pro-White?
 
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There you go, strawmanning and making bad faith arguments as if you know the full breadth of my views. Then again, what else can I expect from a sentient contradiction that is a Christian Anarchist?

Tell me, what can you suss out based on that post beyond just being pro-White?
I see we are playing the "you aren't allowed to know who I am or derive predictions on my present attitudes based on my past statements" game.
Right, what I know about you is that you browse /pol/ enough to use their old infographics against race-mixing (and believe race-mixing is "dysgenic"), view mixed-race people as deformed, and believe that the Afrikaaners should start a race war and threaten to nuke the nigs to protect their state. In all fairness, I wouldn't categorize you as being full /pol/: you at least acknowledge the balance of evidence surrounding the Holocaust and don't seem to be enthralled with fascism, but I would say your rhetoric is built entirely around conflict theory: namely, that whites and non-whites have interests that are fundamentally incompatible and cannot be reconciled, and that thus the White race should focus on advancing their own interests and eliminating the influence non-whites have in any nation inhabited by both whites and non-whites.
Do you contest this?
EDIT: Also, your insistence that I engage you in good faith is amusing when your first reaction to someone disagreeing with you is calling them a faggot on their profile.
 
“I suspect you wouldn't be attacked for "pro-White interests" if you didn't view public works as a zero-sum game where you have to fuck over non-whites to get good things for whites.“

Lol the insane fucking irony in this statement. Wytepeepo are the bourgeoisie in demented Current Year gross mutation of communist thought, where class has been completely supplanted by race, gender and even fucking sexuality as the main vectors of division to exploit. So-called “cultural marxism” is a complete misnomer, globalist multinational capitalist corporations are fully on board. It’s evolved into something unprecedented anywhere in the history of the world.

Fucking over whites for the benefit of PoC is the reality. How can you possibly deny it, when it is a viewpoint first promoted under the guise of equality , then when confronted with the blatant hypocrisy of it, justified by casting a blood libel collectively on all white people for their supposedly uniquely evil and destructive history?

Have to pay for your peoples crimes, yt, also you dont exist, also youre not allowed to have a racial or ethnic identity, unlike the various groups of hyphenated americans and every single other nonwhite nation on the planet. Integration? Assimilation? Melting Pot? Lol those were some good lies right yt? Anyways, forget about all that, its the Salad Bowl now, multiculturalism is the new in thing, equality was way too racist, equity’s where its at.

And this is white people still a majority. Its gonna be such a fucking wonderland utopia of racial harmony when that hurdle, so ardently sought by so many antiwhites and white traitors, is finally crossed.

 
“I suspect you wouldn't be attacked for "pro-White interests" if you didn't view public works as a zero-sum game where you have to fuck over non-whites to get good things for whites.“

Lol the insane fucking irony in this statement. Wytepeepo are the bourgeoisie in demented Current Year gross mutation of communist thought, where class has been completely supplanted by race, gender and even fucking sexuality as the main vectors of division to exploit. So-called “cultural marxism” is a complete misnomer, globalist multinational capitalist corporations are fully on board. It’s evolved into something unprecedented anywhere in the history of the world.

Fucking over whites for the benefit of PoC is the reality. How can you possibly deny it, when it is a viewpoint first promoted under the guise of equality , then when confronted with the blatant hypocrisy of it, justified by casting a blood libel collectively on all white people for their supposedly uniquely evil and destructive history?

Have to pay for your peoples crimes, yt, also you dont exist, also youre not allowed to have a racial or ethnic identity, unlike the various groups of hyphenated americans and every single other nonwhite nation on the planet. Integration? Assimilation? Melting Pot? Lol those were some good lies right yt? Anyways, forget about all that, its the Salad Bowl now, multiculturalism is the new in thing, equality was way too racist, equity’s where its at.

And this is white people still a majority. Its gonna be such a fucking wonderland utopia of racial harmony when that hurdle, so ardently sought by so many antiwhites and white traitors, is finally crossed.

I am openly proud of my Dutch heritage in a neighborhood that is 99% non-whites and I have yet to be "fucked over for the benefit of PoC", you hysterical poltroon.
EDIT: >Only made four posts, all about how the race war is now and racial politics are a zero-sum game
>Jumps back just to back up Mongler's point after no activity since Christmas
Cute.
 
X-post from the Atomwaffen thread because this one needs more khantent.

@GriffithWasRight88 is a Timothy McVeigh and AW fanboy who I stumbled upon thanks to his high-IQ post that protesters have the Constitutional right to attack people with knives:
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I pointed out that this is fucking stupid and even the Founding Fathers at least thought there had to be a degree of ceremony around backing up your words with violence (not to mention you had to give the other person a shot at you as well), and his response was calling me a "Karen", "libcuck", and "kiddo", to little surprise.
Then I got a PM, which is where the real magic happened:
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Of course, I found his ideas intriguing, so I took a look at his recent post history. Turns out he's a strong believer in this secret "Right to stab people for trivial reasons":
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So much so that when someone else in the thread pointed out that Antifa threw fists at the other guy in the news bit first, making the shivving self-defense, he got mad at the implication it wouldn't have been justified if the shivving had just come out of nowhere and invoked the other secret "Right to blow up children and office workers for no reason":
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Unsurprisingly, he's not just an AW fan: he also clearly wants to be Dicky Spencer's bottom bitch:
This guy is basically the human embodiment of alt-right autism.

Again, everyone that doesn't believe in what I do (in this case for that guy, stabbing people for no reason), they're a libtard cuck!

Oh well if it doesnt affect you personally then it doesnt exist, clearly. God forbid you may actually think of your ethnic groups wellbeing in the same sort of way every single other does, and always has since the beginning of recorded history. Why do you care about white nationalists anyways? Have they affected you personally in a negative manner?

Because most WNs can't keep to themselves and act like retards. We laugh at the ones that act retarded.
 
Oh well if it doesnt affect you personally then it doesnt exist, clearly. God forbid you may actually think of your ethnic groups wellbeing in the same sort of way every single other does, and always has since the beginning of recorded history. Why do you care about white nationalists anyways? Have they affected you personally in a negative manner? Or are you allowed to think about the collective wellbeing of society when its literally anyone else but whites that is negatively affected?
 
That alleged quote from Journalist Dan Baum has very little actual evidence to back it up, though it's trotted out quite frequently by people trying to pretend that drug laws are racist. Ehrlichman was extremely upset with Nixon for cutting him loose for his primary role in planning and executing the Watergate scandal and the fact that it, ultimately, cost him his law license and his freedom. The books he wrote about Nixon were panned for lacking credibility and essentially shitting on everyone to prop up his own reputation (see here). He spent the rest of his life being paid to do media interviews and selling tell-alls where he slandered Nixon's policies as much as possible with very little evidence to back it up.

Meanwhile, in reality, Nixon repealed mandatory minimums for marijuana possession, reducing sentencing guidelines from 10 years to 1 year and giving an option for judges to waive the 1 year sentence. He also prioritized halfway houses for treatment and directed officials to avoid prosecution for drug crimes in lieu of medical treatment or community outreach. If he wanted to make being black a crime why would he do that? I suggest reading The Fix, by Michael Massing if you want to read about Nixon's -actual- drug policy and the real failures of drug enforcement.
That Christian Science Monitor article was published in 1982. You know the Nixon tapes are out there right? Shit, he blamed weed on the Jews:
 
I see we are playing the "you aren't allowed to know who I am or derive predictions on my present attitudes based on my past statements" game.
You don't know the first thing about me, either in real life or much about me online apart from my posts here. I know as much about you as you about me, but your consistent strawmanning of virtually all right-wing sentiments expressed here makes me take you much less seriously. I've yet to see you offer a single solid critique of pro-White views that wasn't couched in bad faith arguments, elaborate strawmanning or just outright hostility.

For what it is worth, I am defensively pro-White and my politics flow from that. I support any system that keeps the political power in favor of Whites demographically. I'm pro-White not because of some great myth of White superiority. There were plenty of times in history when White Europeans were at the mercy of external forces, namely the Ottomans and the Mongols. The Persian Empire expanded more territory than even the Roman Empire at their respective heights. So no, White people aren't some super race chosen by whatever to seize the world. I'm pro-White because they are my ancestors and want to see them dominate in the very nations they founded.

Say what you will about unabashed racists, they're very well aware that demography is destiny, and shifting the country to majority non-White will have disastrous consequences, and not just for them. Do you believe that if a day were to come when Whites were no longer the majority of the population and no longer held the lions share of political power and wealth in the country, that affirmative action programs would disappear or be scaled back? Absolutely not. If anything, they would amplify 1000x fold. United States wasn't even a tenth as oppressive to its residents as South Africa or Rhodesia was, but the trajectory seems to be almost identical, and every person in their heart of hearts knows that transfers of power are never peaceful.

Right, what I know about you is that you browse /pol/ enough to use their old infographics against race-mixing (and believe race-mixing is "dysgenic"), view mixed-race people as deformed
Miscegenation is what it is. People and cultures who come into contact with others will inevitably miscegenate and isn't something that doesn't need to be advocated or opposed. People are free to associate and marry whoever they want. I'm not interested having power over such affairs. That said, there are biological realities that demand to be addressed especially in light of the propaganda used to aggressively push race-mixing. No one is demanding East Asians and Sub-Saharan Africans to mix with races outside their ethnic group, although they are free to do so. That demand is strictly being put upon White people.

And yeah, mixing the races doesn't guarantee your children will be model material. If anything, they'll look ethnically ambiguous and just strange. That's not a deformity. Just something less than aesthetic and a solid counterpoint to the notion that mixing the races will yield towards more attractive offspring.

believe that the Afrikaaners should start a race war and threaten to nuke the nigs to protect their state.
I never said they should start a race war. On the contrary, they should form their own state by any means necessary by Afrikaners for Afrikaners.

Like it or not, nuclear weapons affords you great power and allows you to continue existing as a nation regardless of what your policies may be. Look no further than DPRK or Pakistan for proof. Of course, you also need allegiances, but that's another debate entirely.

I never said they should go around nuking random African nations, but a theoretical Volkstaat must be defended by any means necessary.

Your rhetoric is built entirely around conflict theory: namely, that whites and non-whites have interests that are fundamentally incompatible and cannot be reconciled, and that thus the White race should focus on advancing their own interests and eliminating the influence non-whites have in any nation inhabited by both whites and non-whites.
The first part does sum up some of my views, but you then strawman me at the end. If a nation was founded by Whites, then it must be protected by the very Whites that founded it. That doesn't mean completely disenfranchising non-Whites, but artificially disenfranchising Whites to appease the underachieving non-Whites will only lead to discontent.

>Jumps back just to back up Mongler's point after no activity since Christmas
Cute.
Writing a response takes time, and frankly, there isn't a point arguing with someone who'll just use anything I say against me.
 
That Christian Science Monitor article was published in 1982. You know the Nixon tapes are out there right? Shit, he blamed weed on the Trump's Chosen People:
Nixon simply didn't do what you said he did. Regardless of the fact that he disliked blacks, hippies, and a host of other people, his drug policies were so permissive that no President until Obama would even come close to reaching the reduction in incarcerations and recidivism that he achieved. He upended the broken drug crime model and brought mental healthcare and clinically-proven therapies into the drug abuse equation in a way that we still have yet to get back to decades later.

But don't argue with me if you don't believe it. Go out and borrow that book from the library. You can read it and check the numbers yourself.
 
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I dont consider myself altright, which is a pretty meaningless catchall term for a certain strain of reactionary identity politics. I care about race because it is so evidently central to the political realities of the times, and my race is alternatively something that doesnt exist, exists and is culpable of a variety of historical crimes that must be avenged and compensated for, exists but whose demographic replacement is A Good Thing, etc, etc depending on what the worst outcome for white people is on any given factor. The socalled progress from naive colourblind optimism of the 90s to these days is shocking and blatant to anyone that has eyes to see, but apparently this was always where it was heading.

Why'd you edit your old post and re-post, nigga?
It was the same post, nigger.
 
Oh well if it doesnt affect you personally then it doesnt exist, clearly. God forbid you may actually think of your ethnic groups wellbeing in the same sort of way every single other does, and always has since the beginning of recorded history. Why do you care about white nationalists anyways? Have they affected you personally in a negative manner? Or are you allowed to think about the collective wellbeing of society when its literally anyone else but whites that is negatively affected?
Given that my nonwhite friends have literally been stabbed by the local WN types, yes. And to clarify: not for unrelated reasons. For "you fucking injuns are parasites with all your money, this is a White country" reasons.

I never said they should start a race war. On the contrary, they should form their own state by any means necessary by Afrikaners for Afrikaners.
I never said they should go around nuking random African nations, but a theoretical Volkstaat must be defended by any means necessary.


The first part does sum up some of my views, but you then strawman me at the end. If a nation was founded by Whites, then it must be protected by the very Whites that founded it. That doesn't mean completely disenfranchising non-Whites, but artificially disenfranchising Whites to appease the underachieving non-Whites will only lead to discontent.


Writing a response takes time, and frankly, there isn't a point arguing with someone who'll just use anything I say against me.
When ANTIFA says "by any means necessary", everyone knows that this is a veiled way to say "murder the rich and the right-wingers" without being held on record for saying that. You aren't being clever with this read-between-the-lines "but I never said X" shit. I never said, implied, or hinted that we should "artificially disenfranchise whites", but you sure feel comfortable rolling with that being my position.

And neither of you give me that "why don't you care about white people" shit. If you cared about the White Race you would support policies that help the underprivileged white people in America, like debt relief, drug law reform, and expanded public welfare programs. But, for some reason, you're more interested in talking about how non-whites and "race traitors" are refusing to make the ethnostate.
 
I never said, implied, or hinted that we should "artificially disenfranchise whites", but you sure feel comfortable rolling with that being my position.
The projection in your post is spectacular. You have done that to me far more than I've ever done that to you. I've accused you of arguing in bad faith and strawmanning my positions, and time and time again, you continue to prove me right. You really don't know a goddamn thing about me, do you?

If you cared about the White Race you would support policies that help the underprivileged white people in America, like debt relief, drug law reform, and expanded public welfare programs.
Are you somehow implying being pro-White and caring about positions you enumerated are mutually exclusive? We're really getting lost in the weeds here. Of course, I hate that White Americans are the biggest casualty of the opioid crisis. Of course, I hate that we live under neoliberalism with a progressive veneer.

This has nothing to do with what I posted and you're changing the subject.
 
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