Plagued The Alt-Right

Racist forums maven Thomas777 on the alt-right, authenticity, and the Eternal Summer of internet right-wing ideology...couldn't have said it better myself. Evergreen in 2020.
That really does make sense. That's probably why the Alt-Right always seems bigger online than IRL. I suspect a lot of these people would recoil in horror if they actually had to rub shoulders with actual Klansmen or Neo-Nazis, simply because the type of WigNat trash that gets drawn to those groups are a significant part of the reason why they aren't influential at all.
 
That really does make sense. That's probably why the Alt-Right always seems bigger online than IRL. I suspect a lot of these people would recoil in horror if they actually had to rub shoulders with actual Klansmen or Neo-Nazis, simply because the type of WigNat trash that gets drawn to those groups are a significant part of the reason why they aren't influential at all.
As an unironic fan of RAC, I never once had such hang-ups. Such revulsion from these people speaks to their social class and upbringing.

Are there terminal fuck-ups drawn to fringe politics? Absolutely. Does it have any bearing on the substance of an ideology? Of course, not.
 
That really does make sense. That's probably why the Alt-Right always seems bigger online than IRL. I suspect a lot of these people would recoil in horror if they actually had to rub shoulders with actual Klansmen or Neo-Nazis, simply because the type of WigNat trash that gets drawn to those groups are a significant part of the reason why they aren't influential at all.

I think it's more like this: for a lot of alt-righters, it's just a childish phase, like a Hipster or Emo phase. It's a personality substitute meant to make them feel cool and get clout. Once they encounter true-believers in White Nationalism, etc. (online or IRL) their bluff is called and they shrink away.

The best example I can think of are the groypers, who the second they are held to their claimed beliefs, go "Nazis are cringe cringe cringe! We're not racist! It's just irony! Please love us normies!" to get approval from mainstream America and ultimately Daddy Trump. They're schoolkids pretending to be naughty to get the teacher to notice them, because otherwise nobody would care.

Reads like "I was a Nazi before it was cool."

He was though. T777's poasting career spans to the early 2000s before /pol/ or the "alt-right" label was a thing, and you had to wade through gallons of shit on dinosaur 1.0 forums like Stormfront, VNN, and the Phora to get kernels of good discussion. One could argue T777 was the first proper "alt-right" writer/thinker (on the meta level, in that he was an anonymous digital native) worth reading.

Check him out here: The Gospel According to Thomas777
 
That really does make sense. That's probably why the Alt-Right always seems bigger online than IRL. I suspect a lot of these people would recoil in horror if they actually had to rub shoulders with actual Klansmen or Neo-Nazis, simply because the type of WigNat trash that gets drawn to those groups are a significant part of the reason why they aren't influential at all.
No, you're mistaking cause and effect. You're failing to understand the nature of Total Propaganda. Nothing that is counter-narrative is particularly influential, and it doesn't matter at all what the facts are or who champions the points. Naturally, anyone taking an anti-narrative position will be atypical in a variety of ways. Klansmen and "neo-nazis" are irrelevant, except perhaps as a meme used to demoralize any type of pro-white organization.
 
No, you're mistaking cause and effect. You're failing to understand the nature of Total Propaganda. Nothing that is counter-narrative is particularly influential, and it doesn't matter at all what the facts are or who champions the points. Naturally, anyone taking an anti-narrative position will be atypical in a variety of ways. Klansmen and "neo-nazis" are irrelevant, except perhaps as a meme used to demoralize any type of pro-white organization.
Says the man who proudly drapes his avi in a Swastika and talks about killing Jews a whole lot.
The reason "pro-White" organizations fail is because very few of their members are "pro-White" in the sense of wanting to promote the long-term health of Caucasian cultures and societies- they're anti-other-races, and think that this is enough due to a conception of reality as a zero-sum game where, if enough misery and damage are inflicted on non-whites, this will magically improve white living conditions. Anyone who studies history can see this isn't the case; most WN causes are actually resource drains that cause meaningful damage to the average white person.
 
My ultimate hangup for the Alt-right is what is the plan after mass slaughter and bloodshed? Seriously, I don't think I have heard anyone in that group that has a meaningful idea of how to make sure that damaging and degenerate (in the context of dissolving the well-being of society) practices are stopped. I really fucking hate it that there isn't a meaningful Alternative right leaning to right wing school of thought that hasn't been ruined by association of these fucktards.

Not to mention if you want to go right wing, Fascism is a terrible choice given its tendency to create a large welfare state that leads to decay of that society as it is rooted in Socialism being a splinter ideology. Though I strongly suspect that most just want a government system where they can murder all that they don't like, just like a bunch of thuggish Communists and Slimy Socialists.
 
I think it's more like this: for a lot of alt-righters, it's just a childish phase, like a Hipster or Emo phase. It's a personality substitute meant to make them feel cool and get clout. Once they encounter true-believers in White Nationalism, etc. (online or IRL) their bluff is called and they shrink away.

The best example I can think of are the groypers, who the second they are held to their claimed beliefs, go "Nazis are cringe cringe cringe! We're not racist! It's just irony! Please love us normies!" to get approval from mainstream America and ultimately Daddy Trump. They're schoolkids pretending to be naughty to get the teacher to notice them, because otherwise nobody would care.



He was though. T777's poasting career spans to the early 2000s before /pol/ or the "alt-right" label was a thing, and you had to wade through gallons of shit on dinosaur 1.0 forums like Stormfront, VNN, and the Phora to get kernels of good discussion. One could argue T777 was the first proper "alt-right" writer/thinker (on the meta level, in that he was an anonymous digital native) worth reading.

Check him out here: The Gospel According to Thomas777
I checked out the link in that thread to a topic on The Phora where a very familiar face can be seen.

think that this is enough due to a conception of reality as a zero-sum game where, if enough misery and damage are inflicted on non-whites, this will magically improve white living conditions. Anyone who studies history can see this isn't the case; most WN causes are actually resource drains that cause meaningful damage to the average white person.

Okay, pedo.

Back to your old tricks, I see. Keep up the elaborate strawmanning of positions you clearly know nothing about and pretending you uniquely have a solution to this problem.
 
Says the man who proudly drapes his avi in a Swastika and talks about killing Jews a whole lot.
As for the avi, I think the joke is pretty straight-forward. As for talking about killing jews a whole lot, I'll need references.

The reason "pro-White" organizations fail is because very few of their members are "pro-White" in the sense of wanting to promote the long-term health of Caucasian cultures and societies- they're anti-other-races, and think that this is enough due to a conception of reality as a zero-sum game where, if enough misery and damage are inflicted on non-whites, this will magically improve white living conditions. Anyone who studies history can see this isn't the case; most WN causes are actually resource drains that cause meaningful damage to the average white person.
Idiocy. UTR showed the actual truth of the situation. The system is so dead-opposed to any sort of pro-white organization that it brutally and illegally suppressed free expression in such a way that hundreds of people were wounded and one woman died. This was done with the express purpose of making any sort of open, pro-white demonstration impossible going forward. Most people in pro-white circles don't want to inflict damage on non-whites, unless you define separation from non-whites as inflicting damage -which the system does. Meanwhile, how are the endless anti-white hate-hoaxes treated? How are the people that are actively trying to libel the entire white race treated when they are exposed? We had yet another one exposed today in NASCAR. Do you figure the perpetrator will be punished with all-out ostracization, as one would if he spoke ill of BLM? We both know the answer to that.

The actual fact of the matter is that there are very dire penalties for being openly pro-white. Not even anti-non-white, but simply pro-white, as the many panics over postings of "it's ok to be white" signs prove. Meanwhile, being anti-white is not only not punished, but is simply routine. It's absolutely expected, and can even get you a job with the NYT editorial board, as it did with Sarah Jeong. Even now as I type this, the DA in Atlanta is telling insane lies regarding a shooting of a black man in an attempt to win his next election, because the cop that shot him was white.

Your faggot whining about pro-whites being anti-nonwhite would be somewhat moving if any distinction was made in the media, but you know as well as I do, no such distinction is ever made.
 
As for the avi, I think the joke is pretty straight-forward. As for talking about killing jews a whole lot, I'll need references.


Idiocy. UTR showed the actual truth of the situation. The system is so dead-opposed to any sort of pro-white organization that it brutally and illegally suppressed free expression in such a way that hundreds of people were wounded and one woman died. This was done with the express purpose of making any sort of open, pro-white demonstration impossible going forward. Most people in pro-white circles don't want to inflict damage on non-whites, unless you define separation from non-whites as inflicting damage -which the system does. Meanwhile, how are the endless anti-white hate-hoaxes treated? How are the people that are actively trying to libel the entire white race treated when they are exposed? We had yet another one exposed today in NASCAR. Do you figure the perpetrator will be punished with all-out ostracization, as one would if he spoke ill of BLM? We both know the answer to that.

The actual fact of the matter is that there are very dire penalties for being openly pro-white. Not even anti-non-white, but simply pro-white, as the many panics over postings of "it's ok to be white" signs prove. Meanwhile, being anti-white is not only not punished, but is simply routine. It's absolutely expected, and can even get you a job with the NYT editorial board, as it did with Sarah Jeong. Even now as I type this, the DA in Atlanta is telling insane lies regarding a shooting of a black man in an attempt to win his next election, because the cop that shot him was white.

Your faggot whining about pro-whites being anti-nonwhite would be somewhat moving if any distinction was made in the media, but you know as well as I do, no such distinction is ever made.
So the "pro-white" groups are so persecuted that most people who stick their heads above the proverbial parapet are "Screw the optics!" retards with nothing to lose?
 
So the "pro-white" groups are so persecuted that most people who stick their heads above the proverbial parapet are "Screw the optics!" retards with nothing to lose?
Literally, yeah. The ironic thing about all of this, is that if people were able to speak their minds, there'd be less terrorism. It's one of the counter-intuitive things about the current system; it claims "diversity is our greatest strength," yet instead of the sort of diversity one would expect from that credo -diversity of opinion- it simply means "fewer whites." Actual diversity of opinion is brutally suppressed, as we've seen from all the firings associated to anti-BLM posts. Not only do I not share my thoughts on my normie facebook account, I don't dare comment on anything or oppose anyone, regardless of how idiotic their post is. I'm not going to gun down people, but it's easy to see how this situation results in that sort of thing, and it's actually surprising how rare it is. The difference in treatment between gunning people down and being anti-BLM is insanely small. That, combined with the idea that whites are inherently evil is going to result in a very large amount of bloodshed very soon. The sane path would have been to attempt to talk it out, but that didn't happen, so my only advice is to leave the cities if you're currently living there.
 
My ultimate hangup for the Alt-right is what is the plan after mass slaughter and bloodshed? Seriously, I don't think I have heard anyone in that group that has a meaningful idea of how to make sure that damaging and degenerate (in the context of dissolving the well-being of society) practices are stopped. I really fucking hate it that there isn't a meaningful Alternative right leaning to right wing school of thought that hasn't been ruined by association of these fucktards.

If you eliminate something's cause it goes away on its own.
 
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I see we have a student of the @BoxerShorts47 school of debate.
Anyone in the same camp as "Traditionalism" shouldn't throw that particular stone, given that 99% of online Traditionalists aren't big fans of the age of consent (or the idea of consent itself, for that matter).

If you eliminate something's cause it goes away on its own.
"Degenerate" practices existed in White societies well before the first melanin-enriched or nasally-embiggened man turned up on their shores. Socially-accepted ones at that: see the Greeks and eromenos (are Greeks White this week?) or the shockingly egalitarian domestic structure of the Scandinavians (rape of any Scandinavian woman by anyone was punishable by outlawry in pre-Christian Scandinavia).
 
Literally, yeah. The ironic thing about all of this, is that if people were able to speak their minds, there'd be less terrorism. It's one of the counter-intuitive things about the current system; it claims "diversity is our greatest strength," yet instead of the sort of diversity one would expect from that credo -diversity of opinion- it simply means "fewer whites." Actual diversity of opinion is brutally suppressed, as we've seen from all the firings associated to anti-BLM posts. Not only do I not share my thoughts on my normie facebook account, I don't dare comment on anything or oppose anyone, regardless of how idiotic their post is. I'm not going to gun down people, but it's easy to see how this situation results in that sort of thing, and it's actually surprising how rare it is. The difference in treatment between gunning people down and being anti-BLM is insanely small. That, combined with the idea that whites are inherently evil is going to result in a very large amount of bloodshed very soon. The sane path would have been to attempt to talk it out, but that didn't happen, so my only advice is to leave the cities if you're currently living there.
freedom of speech ≠ freedom from consequences.

i've never met a minority who unironically hated/wanted to wipe out whites (i'm sure i've met more than you).

living such a paranoid life must honestly suck. all nonwhites are definitely out to get you!
 
He was though. T777's poasting career spans to the early 2000s before /pol/ or the "alt-right" label was a thing, and you had to wade through gallons of shit on dinosaur 1.0 forums like Stormfront, VNN, and the Phora to get kernels of good discussion. One could argue T777 was the first proper "alt-right" writer/thinker (on the meta level, in that he was an anonymous digital native) worth reading.

Check him out here: The Gospel According to Thomas777
I have a lot more respect for the genuine weirdo wignats than the species of imageboard trash that inhabits this website, because members of the former group actually have interesting insights once in a while. I also respect honest-to-god provocateurs (like Boyd Rice and Jim Goad, mentioned in T777's post), because they admit that their intent is to piss people off without trying to force some ideological message.

i've never met a minority who unironically hated/wanted to wipe out whites (i'm sure i've met more than you).

living such a paranoid life must honestly suck. all nonwhites are definitely out to get you!
Most non-white cultures see wh*toids as bumbling idiots. It's only in places with seriously fucked-up histories of ethnic oppression (like Zimbabwe and South Africa) that they're given the treatment they deserve.
 
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I see we have a student of the @BoxerShorts47 school of debate.
Anyone in the same camp as "Traditionalism" shouldn't throw that particular stone, given that 99% of online Traditionalists aren't big fans of the age of consent (or the idea of consent itself, for that matter).

I never called you a Jew, you fucking Nimrod. It's you who chose to double-down on an already monumental act of ill judgement and then blame your psychotic episode on something other than the very source. You fucked up royally and should never be made to live that down.

You have demonstrated time and time again that you don't know how to engage with pro-White opinions. You came closer with another user whose name escapes me at the moment, but that's about it. And you call me a Traditionalist when I haven't once brought up Evola or Guénon. You're swinging wildly and missing.

I'll take comfort in the fact that, no matter how unpopular yet true my opinions about White identity may be, I don't need a prescription of neuropharmacological drugs to make it through the day, unlike you.
 
I never called you a Jew, you fucking Nimrod. It's you who chose to double-down on an already monumental act of ill judgement and then blame your psychotic episode on something other than the very source. You fucked up royally and should never be made to live that down.

You have demonstrated time and time again that you don't know how to engage with pro-White opinions. You came closer with another user whose name escapes me at the moment, but that's about it. And you call me a Traditionalist when I haven't once brought up Evola or Guénon. You're swinging wildly and missing.

I'll take comfort in the fact that, no matter how unpopular yet true my opinions about White identity may be, I don't need a prescription of neuropharmacological drugs to make it through the day, unlike you.
You are making the mistake that I am engaging you in good faith. I tried that several times about... oh, I think 2 or 3 years ago. By this point, I've figured out that we can't have a dialogue and now just try to see how quickly I can make you chimp out.
Seriously, why should I engage with you when anything but simpering admission of how I'm an evil libtard and you are right and just gets "REE PEDO PSYCH DRUGS BAD I AM RIGHT AND JUST!"? Like trying to talk to a social studies major.
And I don't need antidepressants or fringe ideology to be content at this point, which puts me one slot above you.
 
The reason "pro-White" organizations fail is because very few of their members are "pro-White" in the sense of wanting to promote the long-term health of Caucasian cultures and societies- they're anti-other-races, and think that this is enough due to a conception of reality as a zero-sum game where, if enough misery and damage are inflicted on non-whites, this will magically improve white living conditions. Anyone who studies history can see this isn't the case; most WN causes are actually resource drains that cause meaningful damage to the average white person.

The actual fact of the matter is that there are very dire penalties for being openly pro-white. Not even anti-non-white, but simply pro-white, as the many panics over postings of "it's ok to be white" signs prove.

Can we talk about the fact of the matter that most, perhaps even all, pro-white nationalists aren't actually white, but instead part mick, kike, wop, wog or slav?
 
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