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what do you mean by that?, if you're talking about Jax being one of the MCs, that was always going to happen since the beginning, even if it happens at the cost of curbing the development of the other characters.
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Thank god the creators of Space King seem to understand how to do shit.
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It adds an extra level of silliness to this nontroversy that they held a poll and Jax and Pomni were far and away the most popular characters by a wide margin. So a small handful of Redditors complaining they get too much screentime shouldn't a priority for anybody. Add in the fact that everyone single character has gotten their own episode and at least one big character moment every new episode and it's baffling any of this is even an issue to anyone.
But I guess Redditors being retarded and trannies overreacting to shit is just nature.
But I guess Redditors being retarded and trannies overreacting to shit is just nature.
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It was poorly done. Jax had little to do in the first half of the series before suddenly taking 90% of the spotlight for himself. Hell, he barely even spoke in the haunted house episode.
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Idk what kinda weird gaslighting everyone is under but Jax pretty clearly was never meant to originally share the spotlight with Pomni. You never saw a giant Jax statue at those pop-up stores in Japan or at Comic Con or anything, only Pomni ones. She’s the mascot of the show everyone thinks of and is the one that’s in every advertisement front and center. Also being an audience surrogate automatically makes you the main character and more important than everyone else.
I think what happened is that Goose just wants to fuck Jax so she elevated him to a more important role than what was originally planned. 4 people on Reddit pointed this really obvious thing out which made her want to kill herself for a day which resulted in all of her friends and fans doing the internet version of this
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Came across this image.
That's right! Never criticize your master!
The utter irony is that people who criticize something usually care the most because if they didn't care at all they'd just move on, not try and provide advice on how to improve things. But so many soyboy hugbox retards these days claim that criticism and harassment are both the same thing and they wonder why media sucks fucking cock now in a society where creatives are too sensitive or egotistical (Or both) to take criticism.
That's right! Never criticize your master!
The utter irony is that people who criticize something usually care the most because if they didn't care at all they'd just move on, not try and provide advice on how to improve things. But so many soyboy hugbox retards these days claim that criticism and harassment are both the same thing and they wonder why media sucks fucking cock now in a society where creatives are too sensitive or egotistical (Or both) to take criticism.
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Breaking down the Jax thing more specifically because I feel like it.
Pilot episode - Jax had a mildly antagonistic role, but more of just a dick more than anything serious, no more important than the other characters.
Candy episode - Basically the same thing, he was just a dick, but the episode still focused more on Pomni and Jax wasn't really important.
Haunted house episode - Jax barely even spoke and had no impact on the plot whatsoever. The designated Kinger episode.
Fast food episode - Gangle's episode, even more than Pomni's. Jax again served no particularly large role in anything.
Untitled episode - Jax finally gets some spotlight, but even then he doesn't get this huge mental health splurge that other characters had up until this point. His biggest episode yet, but still no bigger than anyone that isn't Pomni.
Gun episode - Finally one where you can say Jax has equal footing with Pomni for the "main duo" of an episode. His mask falls more than ever and is at last his true first highlight episode.
Beach episode - And now Jax essentially has a bigger spotlight than arguably Pomni for the first time and is the first time he actually feels like a main character, at least to me.
Pilot episode - Jax had a mildly antagonistic role, but more of just a dick more than anything serious, no more important than the other characters.
Candy episode - Basically the same thing, he was just a dick, but the episode still focused more on Pomni and Jax wasn't really important.
Haunted house episode - Jax barely even spoke and had no impact on the plot whatsoever. The designated Kinger episode.
Fast food episode - Gangle's episode, even more than Pomni's. Jax again served no particularly large role in anything.
Untitled episode - Jax finally gets some spotlight, but even then he doesn't get this huge mental health splurge that other characters had up until this point. His biggest episode yet, but still no bigger than anyone that isn't Pomni.
Gun episode - Finally one where you can say Jax has equal footing with Pomni for the "main duo" of an episode. His mask falls more than ever and is at last his true first highlight episode.
Beach episode - And now Jax essentially has a bigger spotlight than arguably Pomni for the first time and is the first time he actually feels like a main character, at least to me.
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In the OG comic goose drew for the series production Pomni, Jax, and Caine are literally the only characters to show up at all. In fact, there's a second jax in the comic: the bone pastor. Its obvious he was the male lead from the start.
Pretty sure that was the point. The one note characters (and lets be real most of the cast is one note) get the episodic spotlight while Jax was set up as the slow burn character arc. You could maybe say he wasn't meant to have a huge focus in the pilot, but episode two literally cuts away from the funeral discussion to his conflicted reaction and makes a point to show he is avoiding the others. So by ep 2 him being the secondary MC is pretty clear.
Edit: Not saying any of this in defense of troonworx BTW, just want to emphasize that the Jax and Pomni oversaturation isn't a short term mistake, it is a long term, dedicated commitment to shit writing.
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"Why did Jax suddenly start getting more screentime?"
Character popularity contest:
Even before this poll came out, it was pretty clear he was getting really popular very early on.
Similar situation to X-Men. Wolverine was never meant to be the main character of the franchise, he was just supposed to be some hot-headed rube that Hulk fought. But every time he appeared he kept getting more and more popular so they kept expanding his role to the point where this happened:
Also shoutout to the fact that Ragatha is near the bottom and this entire super gay overblown non-issue started because redditors were upset about her not getting as much screentime. Goose overreacted but I gotta say I'd be pretty frustrated too if I was giving nerds exactly what they said they wanted and heard them complain when they got it.
Character popularity contest:
Even before this poll came out, it was pretty clear he was getting really popular very early on.
Similar situation to X-Men. Wolverine was never meant to be the main character of the franchise, he was just supposed to be some hot-headed rube that Hulk fought. But every time he appeared he kept getting more and more popular so they kept expanding his role to the point where this happened:
Also shoutout to the fact that Ragatha is near the bottom and this entire super gay overblown non-issue started because redditors were upset about her not getting as much screentime. Goose overreacted but I gotta say I'd be pretty frustrated too if I was giving nerds exactly what they said they wanted and heard them complain when they got it.
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Does all this drama mean that Gooseworx doesn't actually own Digital Circus?
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If anything at the start Jax seemed to be a static bully that at most will get an episode to justify his behaviour. Him getting the spotlight really ruined everything interesting and fun about him.
He owns it digitally. Which means he doesn't.
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Maybe he still owns the rights to TADC, and Luke and Kevin are the producers.
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Your avatar reminded me that Liam never had anywhere close to this level of controversy throughout the entirety of his arguably worse-written show, and he's way more self-aware about his own failings as a writer while never delving into the same depths of irony poisoning that Goose does whenever he posts something self-deprecating.
Liam also managed to actually write a straight romance that wasn't half-supported by one of the members being tranny bait.
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Liam Vickers may be a bad writer, but he's not a shit person.
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I knew some bad (though minor and stupid) shit was probably coming for Goose when I saw them on Twitter actually responding to people and engaging with fans, which I'm sure was super exciting for them -- but as a PR strategy it's one of the dumbest things you can do. Interacting with randos opens up a lot of oppurtunity for people to be weird to you, or for you to show how weird you are.
You notice how the creators who don't have any controversy never really responds to controversy and interacts with fans on a limited, controlled basis? That's not a coincidence, that's being smart.
You notice how the creators who don't have any controversy never really responds to controversy and interacts with fans on a limited, controlled basis? That's not a coincidence, that's being smart.
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Those are really obvious shitposts and when people argue Jax is the other main character they don’t use these as proof. I guess since Caine is in them he’s the third main character?
You don’t have to be a Digital Circus stalker to figure out the character that you see advertised the most that’s also the surrogate is clearly the actual main character, not the gay purple nigga the creator wants to plow
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I like the Caine office set
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There are actual reasons to criticize Goose, and unfortunately those are getting buried under nonsense cancel culture shite.
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Looking back at the thread and online, it's so strange to rewatch the comments 2 years ago from episode 2 when the internet decided the tadc fandom is retarded because "Jax was always shallow bully/villain sorry your headcanon is wrong". It was pratically the reverse of the current narrative.
But even stranger that, goose has basically "unsubverted" Jax and proved those fans right. Despite hyping jax as irredemable so much and painting him as simply a troublesome jerk for the first half, goose would then go all out to ensure jax the most unsufferable trope of millenial cartoons. A depressed traumatized protagonist who only pushes others away to cope and must be "saved" by his friends.
But even stranger that, goose has basically "unsubverted" Jax and proved those fans right. Despite hyping jax as irredemable so much and painting him as simply a troublesome jerk for the first half, goose would then go all out to ensure jax the most unsufferable trope of millenial cartoons. A depressed traumatized protagonist who only pushes others away to cope and must be "saved" by his friends.
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From an artistic standpoint, I think episode 4 is my favorite episode, just because of how simple and human it is. Usually when shows try to be "relatable" they come off as forced and inauthentic, but this episode was clearly written by someone who actually worked in fast food and understands how much it sucks.
Seeing the characters forced to work in a crappy low-wage service job for a day instead of going on a fun adventure makes them feel way more real and human. You get to see them in a situation you likely understand all too well, and have a good idea of what they're thinking and feeling.
Gangle is really enthusiastic at first and starts power tripping on the fake authority she's been given, but slowly she realizes everyone is annoyed by her and even the nicest person there thinks she's obnoxious, she doesn't have any real power except the ability to squeal to upper management, and nobody is happy to be around her or respects her position. It seems like damn near everyone who gets a shitty job starts out really motivated but becomes really burnt out when they realize none of it actually matters and it's all menial, and no matter what type of manager you are people are only going to ever see you as an annoying middleman that makes their shitty job worse.
Zooble works really hard but it's just because she wants to get everything over with as quickly as quickly and painlessly as possible, and ends up picking up the slack for multiple people who goof off, but she has no real passion for the job or even any interest in being there, she's just coping with the boring monotony by trying to blaze through it.
Jax tries to be an edgelord like usual but once he realizes there'll actually be consequences for him if he fucks up, he just does his damn job and is bored and miserable the whole time. He acts the most normal and polite we've seen him the whole series so far but only out of pure obligation. I can't tell you how many edgy teenagers and 20-somethings I've seen just get totally broken working in retail.
Pomni goes "off script" a couple times and gets chewed out for it. All she wants is like five seconds to talk to someone she recognizes but she gets corralled like a dog on a leash. She's stuck in this awkward situation where everyone is forced to act like this is a real job with real responsibilities when it's obviously just dumb bullshit and nothing is happening, but god forbid you don't follow all the arbitrary nonsense to the letter.
Even the stuff that just seems like dumb gags are realistic. Ragatha (accidentally) gets high off her ass, but her manager only cares she didn't do it "on break." That's barely a joke, nearly EVERYONE in retail or fast food gets high and management doesn't give a shit as long as you still do the basic tasks expected of you. Meanwhile Caine gives everyone a B+ regardless of performance, because it's all bullshit and none of it matters as long as the customers get their food on time.
Working in fast food really fucking sucks. I have an older relative who worked in factories most of their life, and eventually got injured. Now, since they're older, they assumed a job at a fast food place would be something simpler and safer and they could handle it. They fucking hated it so much they quit after just a few months. Management was shitty and putting off all the work on them and they couldn't even get off work for a family emergency, and when they quit they didn't even clean the place or give them time to find a replacement.
It's a good example of why the show works, why it really ended up surprising me when I actually watched it, and why I think it's more "mature" than other indie adult cartoons. You have crazy shit happening but you also have characters who feel really human and well-rounded, and writing that feels really thought out. For all Goose's faults, they know what they're doing. The show has moments that actually feel "adult."
So from an artistic standpoint, it's my favorite episode... but my actual favorite is the one where they all get guns and shoot each other because, come the fuck on, how could it not be?
Seeing the characters forced to work in a crappy low-wage service job for a day instead of going on a fun adventure makes them feel way more real and human. You get to see them in a situation you likely understand all too well, and have a good idea of what they're thinking and feeling.
Gangle is really enthusiastic at first and starts power tripping on the fake authority she's been given, but slowly she realizes everyone is annoyed by her and even the nicest person there thinks she's obnoxious, she doesn't have any real power except the ability to squeal to upper management, and nobody is happy to be around her or respects her position. It seems like damn near everyone who gets a shitty job starts out really motivated but becomes really burnt out when they realize none of it actually matters and it's all menial, and no matter what type of manager you are people are only going to ever see you as an annoying middleman that makes their shitty job worse.
Zooble works really hard but it's just because she wants to get everything over with as quickly as quickly and painlessly as possible, and ends up picking up the slack for multiple people who goof off, but she has no real passion for the job or even any interest in being there, she's just coping with the boring monotony by trying to blaze through it.
Jax tries to be an edgelord like usual but once he realizes there'll actually be consequences for him if he fucks up, he just does his damn job and is bored and miserable the whole time. He acts the most normal and polite we've seen him the whole series so far but only out of pure obligation. I can't tell you how many edgy teenagers and 20-somethings I've seen just get totally broken working in retail.
Pomni goes "off script" a couple times and gets chewed out for it. All she wants is like five seconds to talk to someone she recognizes but she gets corralled like a dog on a leash. She's stuck in this awkward situation where everyone is forced to act like this is a real job with real responsibilities when it's obviously just dumb bullshit and nothing is happening, but god forbid you don't follow all the arbitrary nonsense to the letter.
Even the stuff that just seems like dumb gags are realistic. Ragatha (accidentally) gets high off her ass, but her manager only cares she didn't do it "on break." That's barely a joke, nearly EVERYONE in retail or fast food gets high and management doesn't give a shit as long as you still do the basic tasks expected of you. Meanwhile Caine gives everyone a B+ regardless of performance, because it's all bullshit and none of it matters as long as the customers get their food on time.
Working in fast food really fucking sucks. I have an older relative who worked in factories most of their life, and eventually got injured. Now, since they're older, they assumed a job at a fast food place would be something simpler and safer and they could handle it. They fucking hated it so much they quit after just a few months. Management was shitty and putting off all the work on them and they couldn't even get off work for a family emergency, and when they quit they didn't even clean the place or give them time to find a replacement.
It's a good example of why the show works, why it really ended up surprising me when I actually watched it, and why I think it's more "mature" than other indie adult cartoons. You have crazy shit happening but you also have characters who feel really human and well-rounded, and writing that feels really thought out. For all Goose's faults, they know what they're doing. The show has moments that actually feel "adult."
So from an artistic standpoint, it's my favorite episode... but my actual favorite is the one where they all get guns and shoot each other because, come the fuck on, how could it not be?
The truth is most people who act like edgy assholes IRL usually do it as a coping mechanism for trauma or emotional instability. People generally don't act like cunts unless they're miserable. Sure, you'll always have douchebags who are just happy being douchebags, but those people aren't interesting enough to be part of an ensemble cast in a TV show.
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