The Bazaar - Bizarrely not dead yet.

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Retink Retunk

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For those unfamiliar The Bazaar was original a crowd funded card game by a former MTG pro that became Hearthstone streamer known as Reynad. The game took over six years to make after being crowdfunded and morphed into an asynchronous auto battler that Reynad claims had its ideas stolen by Super Auto Pets. At some point Forsen, another Hearthstone streamer was involved with the project before killing himself.

Recently I started hearing about it after think it was vapor wear because apparently it finally went into open beta and now had plenty of monetization and pay to win options despite them promising not to offer pay to win options at every point. Reynad being a mature and well adjusted individual had a meltdown as one does:

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Has anyone tried this game?

I remember hearing a lot of streamers and Youtubers hyping it up, but after trying it, I'm pretty sure it just sucks. The game is a slow RNG riddled mess that doesn't even feel good to have running in the background, and I'm someone who actually enjoyed Raid Shadow Legends for a little while.
 
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I had a friend telling me about it a few days ago and basically related the same things; the developers said they weren't going to go p2w, they released new content you had to buy into that was naturally better than what existed prior (I mean, what else do you do with a card game to drive sales other than boost the power level). He says he begrudgingly plays it, so that tracks.
 
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DickMain said:
I had a friend telling me about it a few days ago and basically related the same things; the developers said they weren't going to go p2w, they released new content you had to buy into that was naturally better than what existed prior (I mean, what else do you do with a card game to drive sales other than boost the power level). He says he begrudgingly plays it, so that tracks.
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It's not even a card game, it's more of a Rogue game where you go on a run and find items and skills, with the expansions you pay for adding new items to the pool. It's like buying cards you aren't even assured to use and you can disable them if you own them, but you can't opt to not play against people with them if you don't have them. They've already had to hotfix one of the pay to own items because it was extra busted.
 
I was looking forward to it since I've got a long history with card games but shitty monetisation is an absolute skip for me. It's funny how hearthstone used to be expensive as shit to keep up with meta decks and now reynad's, an ex hearthstone pro's, game has the same issue if not even worse. Absolute fucking waste of potential. Just make this shit subscription based, I'm too old for f2p bullshit
 
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A guy I know gave me an invite while it was still in closed beta and it was pretty fun for what it is, and has some nice ideas (I like that you could just stop at any point and then resume), but the moment they slapped on more monetization I haven't played since, and don't expect ever to again. The existing monetization was already pretty rough - ranked is the only way to get free premium currency, and you only get one free ranked game a day, unless you fully win a unranked game which nets you another ticket. I understand needing to keep the lights on but don't make the experience worse.
 
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HOW? I know that even in 2108 crowd funding was entirely faggots making grandiose promises and never delivering. But a card game is one of the easiest things to make.

It is an interesting topic though. Wonder how bad the p2w is
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It was redesigned a ton. It started as a shitty Hearthstone clone and ended in an item auto battler. They ended up raising money from multiple investors and finally pushed it out
 
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"I'm gonna make hearthstone with crack and hookers"
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"So how about auto chess?"

It was doomed from the start and Reynad has gone down the deep end. He could've been up there with Grubby and all those other Blizzard/card game/RTS streamers, collabing and what not. Instead, he's doing this tragic passion project?
 
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⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
"I'm gonna make hearthstone with crack and hookers"
>...
"So how about auto chess?"

It was doomed from the start and Reynad has gone down the deep end. He could've been up there with Grubby and all those other Blizzard/card game/RTS streamers, collabing and what not. Instead, he's doing this tragic passion project?
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At some point he claimed Super Auto Pets stole his super secret innovation of asynchronous battles where you fight a snapshot of a person instead of a person directly. Raid Shadow Legends had a system like that long before him though.
 
The Bazaar has quite a lot of good ideas and interesting mechanics but is implemented like shit. Basically the game is a mess with interesting and fun aspects that don't quite work right because the devs don't really know what they are doing. When things go right then it can be really fun, but when things go wrong it is unpleasant.

The most important thing in a strategic sense is knowing the meta of the game where you know what is good and then you construct a winning deck from what you are offered.

I wouldn't say the monetization is necessarily pay to win, but it could make it easier to win if you knew what you were doing. Expansions also increase the pool of cards you can get which can make things worse if you are going for specific builds. I have some expansions for free but if I had a choice I would disable certain ones because I never play those builds. Expansions dilute the card pool making it hard to find what you need.

I also think the devs have absolutely no idea how to balance their game correctly. There is a certain character named Pygmalion or Pyg who is very strong in this patch but only if the player playing them gets lucky enough to get the good builds. This after Pyg having to be nerfed because he was so strong he could actually break the mechanics of the game to be several orders of magnitude stronger than any other character.

Also tons and tons of technical issues. I can only imagine the spaghetti code that is behind this game. The game very much has a ton of technical debt. There are issues with the UI breaking, issues with netcode, issues with the launcher.

All in all it has some fun things I really enjoy but it is such a mess I can't recommend it. Basically I just log in to play my free ranked game everyday because that is fun enough to be worth it but I don't play much more than that.
 
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