The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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God of Nothing said:
meh
What was the safeguard against Noir?

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Thats it, thats the joke. Vought made a stronger, more unstable clone of homelander and left him to his own devices with no supervision and no guidance. It is the perfect parody of corporations doing retarded shit with zero hesitation and making the problem worse. A more scathing, cutting, and accurate critique of megacorporations than anything seen in the show.
 
I don't understand why people say I must be mistaken or mean something else.

I think most of the shit I say is very simple and unambiguous. So no, I didn't mean Ackles. Kripke said Starr pushed back on his drumpf shit hard.

Kripke literally wanted Homelander to be cardboard monster, and Starr was like "He has to live there too."

I'm not sure I buy that Kripke fully listened though, they acted like the plane footage was a kryptonite bullet and then he suddenly didn't give a shit. That's... not fantastic.

Back to Ackles, he absolutely refused to play the character as written. That probably resulted in both ambiguity in the audience AND the cartoon dipshit they reworked him as.
 
Of course the show has gone done in retardation. The source material is also retarded. Ennis is a shit writer who doesn't know escalation.

'Hey guys what if this character got raped but this time it's uh, it's with TWO guys? And one of them is eating a baby?'

The telling thing is you could say that about damn near any of his works and nobody would be able to tell. He writes like a 14 year old who might tell you not to come to school one day.
 
The Vinyl Solution said:
I'm just hoping amazon doesn't fuck it up
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Hope crushed.

A-Stump said:
The source material is also retarded. Ennis is a shit writer who doesn't know escalation.
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Yeah well that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
I thought the plot structure of the books was brilliant, and the slow revelations of plot, character and history were masterful. Of course people focus on the gore and edge, but as it turned out, it all had a purpose.

Can you explain in which ways the ‘escalation’ in the books was deficient or defective?
 
Buckaroo said:
"But cloning feels too magical for the show."

V is literally a magic potion that randomly gives people superpowers that often require their bodies to completely change in drastic ways to make them work. How is the worm guy somehow more sensible than cloning? How is Kripke allowed to do anything without a helmet and retard handler to keep him safe?
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Shows the downgrade in philosophy that even for the comic being a deliberately milk-sopped superhero world, it feels whimsical compared with the show's muted tacticool slop. The seven had an actual space watchtower.
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Nobusuke Kishi said:
I don't know why Hollywood people keep doing this. Everyone does Trump jokes, comparisons, allegories and it makes everything become a bland mesh. The fact the first season was a commentary on the Bush administration, while it certainly would have been cliche back in the 00's, actually made it stand out more in modern day. Homelander quoting Bush's famous Ground Zero speech word for word was too on the nose for me personally, but a show satirizing America's post 9/11 climate hasn't been done in a while, and, 20 years later, could offer some unique ideas. Now it's just "what if bad guy was Trump" show #27 and has nothing to say that hasn't been said a million times by politically obsessed losers screaming at each other on twitter. What a waste.
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Homelander (comic) was explicitly noted as bipartisan. The cope that he was always like this is smothered in the crib for people who can read.
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MirrorNoir said:
Granted, Antony Starr has been wanting to get the fuck off the show since season three, and is now 50 years old and knows he only has maybe a decade left if he's lucky before he's officially considered geriatric and can't get leading man roles and transition into making movies. So I double he'll want to continue to play Homelander in a potential spin-off down the line. But I'm sure as shit know Amazon probably WANTS to be able to make a Homelander ongoing TV show eventually, especially as a means to try and salvage the IP, since at this point I doubt Voight Rising will get more than a single season.
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The only feasible way he reprises the role is if a full animated series reboot adapting the comic 1:1 just like I'm Your Pusher happens.
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God of Nothing said:
meh
What was the safeguard against Noir?
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Well, comics wise, I guess we can argue that he was built from the ground up to be entirely conditioned, devoid from any will or sense of self, a "human" robot if you will. That is why through the series he only grunts or stands in place, and when he finally speaks, he's barely eloquent.

Don't recall if Ennis was ever clear on what was the deal with this character other than being a kill switch clone.

Said that, the thing about Black Noir is that he represents yet another fuck up from Vought, a counter measure they developed to risk manage an asset that blew up in their faces... again.

The thing about Vought, at least in the comics, is that they were one of the most powerfull corpos in the world, representing all of a 100% of actual super-powered people, and yet the were comically inept, like, pants on head retarded.

The only reason Vought survived for so long in the market was their monopoly on supes and having half of congress in their pokets.

And I don't need to say that is the satire, a clear dig against DC and Marvel, and even the comics industry as a whole, as they are ineptly managed, but still survive due the iconic characters they have
 
Jormungand said:
So, at this point, it's easy to say the Boys ending is going to be terrible, and everyone knows it, including Erica Kirpke, who decided to pull the "Well, it was always meant to suck ass!"

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In fact, there's an entire article about him bitching about fans complaining about all the filler in the final season of his own show.
Constantly complaining about his fans and claiming they only want to see people fighting, even though one of the main premises of the comics was killing superpowered celebrities. Yet, the show is simply Eric Kirpke's whiny fanfic about how he hates Trump and people who follow him.

I'll send a link to the article below, but here's his response.


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I heard at the very least that the whole “Kripke claims he made the finale bad on purpose” was simply meant as a joke post, and that he never actually said that.

But it still doesn’t make him any less of an incompetent idiot.
 
I'm really only interested in what's going to happen to The Deep at this point. The trailer shows him riding on the back of the Sam Jackson shark so I guess the sea creatures forgave him?. Hoping he doesn't get killed by Starlight's awful plastic surgery face.
 
RollerGator said:
I'm really only interested in what's going to happen to The Deep at this point. The trailer shows him riding on the back of the Sam Jackson shark so I guess the sea creatures forgave him?. Hoping he doesn't get killed by Starlight's awful plastic surgery face.
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I'm guessing he'll be the Paulie Walnuts of the show. Forgotten and alone, nobody even giving a shit enough to finish him off.
 
A-Stump said:
I'm guessing he'll be the Paulie Walnuts of the show. Forgotten and alone, nobody even giving a shit enough to finish him off.
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There are only two endings that they would do. First is that Starlight revenge kills him for raping her. This is the most obvious. Second is that Starlight flies him to a remote island in the middle of the ocean, forcing him to either live forever like Castaway unless he's rescued (which would be humiliating), or risk getting into the water and deal with the sharks that want to kill him for the oil spill.
 
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