The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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bifftango said:
This show is frustratingly inconsistent. The last two seasons started decently and then inevitably backslide into the same nonsense to create drama. How about the characters grow just a little bit and put their differences aside to take on the supes? Nope! Rehash the same drama from the previous seasons instead of advancing the story with fresh ideas. It's almost as if someone who used to work for the CW runs this show...
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It gets REALLY fucking annoying. It happens once every fucking season. Its like they don't know how to create drama so its like 'Lets break them up again!' They didn't even wait until the end to do it.
DapperShark said:
I thought the first season was great, the second season was fucking awful but I kept watching because the guy who plays Homelander is just that good, he pretty much carries the entire show by himself. I haven't watched the new season and everything I read leading up to its release suggested they were going to double down on everything that made the second season bad, the writers and showrunners are all insane woke retards and there were a bunch of articles where they said this season was going to be about tOxIc mAsCuLiNiTy and other such vapid horseshit.
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That seems to be mostly bullshit, I don't really know what 'toxic masculinity' they're talking about. Unless its Homelander, who is basically insane from being treated like a science experiment and a fake person all his life. He doesn't even recognize himself as human because of it, so his relationship to 'masculinity' or anything human at all would be alien to him. He only cares about other supes, and even then very very peripherally.

His relationship with Stormfront made sense because she was like him, basically surrendering her own humanity. And that's all he really wants is that sort of companionship. But because he doesn't consider himself human and pretty much all the supes he interacts with retain their humanity, he's disgusted by them and loathes them. He isn't attracted to Starlight, he's just basically fucking with her. Her humanity and compassion for humans disgusts him. She knows it makes her uncomfortable and he fucking loves that. There's absolutely no sexuality between them and he doesn't want to take possession of her, the only real thing he wants to do is crush her skull like a grape.

He's more comfortable with Butcher because Butcher is really like Homelander. He's completely surrendered his humanity for ego, just for a different outcome. Its why he doesn't kill Butcher instantly. Because they're similar on some level and Butcher grasps Homelander's nature, even if he hates him. And that has more meaning than killing his enemy. Homelander also doesn't care if he dies by Butcher's hands, because Homelander doesn't really consider him to be human at all.

Fuck. Homelander is clearly the best character in the series and if they kill him off this season, then I'm honestly done with the show.
 
What's Stormfront like? Is she a caricature, or entertaining? I might get into this series and I'd like to know if it's standard Hollywood garbage or they do anything interesting with her, mostly because I like her design.


...Among other things. :tomgirl:
 
The first episode of Season 3 had such an interesting premise, I was really pissed when they didn't follow through with it. In the first episode, Vought toys with replacing Homelander or minimizing his role, and Stan Edgar even considers the idea of replacing Superheroes entirely with temporary supersoldiers which won't be as annoying to deal with or maintain. This causes Homelander to approach Billy Butcher, and the two have a down-to-earth talk about how both the government and Vought are replacing them both. It's just that, a better story could have been written, just with the premise of Billy and Homelander working together. Now Homelander is just being a bossy twat, which really isn't anything new with the character.

It would have been more interesting if things kept going that way, long enough for Billy and Homelander to form a temporary alliance to bring down Vought and its allies in the government. Have Vought continue its immoral experiments to "iron out the kinks" with V24, and have the government be in on it because they will use V-24 to replace superheroes with supersoldiers. Vought slowly ditches Homelander due to his past mistakes and his history with Stormfront, and Vought uses Starlight as their new mascot, with Starlight being fooled into thinking that Stan Edgar and Vought are better to deal with than Homelander, when Stan and his government contacts are, in fact, far worse than him. Out in the open, Vought's public operations under Starlight become more heroic and wholesome, with the Seven under Starlight acting like real superheroes and being as good as Superman, but behind closed doors, Vought and the Feds are treating humans like lab rats to iron out the kinks in their new supersoldier serum.

It all comes to a head when Homelander and the Boys lead a daring assault against a heavily-fortified, government-owned lab protected by soldiers infused with a perfected batch of V-24. It is a lab where Vought and the Feds experimented on captured POWs with V-24 to iron out its kinks. Homelander strives to regain his public status by exposing this unethical act of both Vought and the Feds, causing both the American government and Vought to be utterly humiliated when Billy Butcher and Homelander expose the truth about Vought. This then causes the world to put less faith in Vought or the US government, and put more faith towards Homelander, setting up a fourth season where Homelander becomes the final boss, as he uses the clout he gains from exposing Vought and the Feds to propel himself as the ultimate figure of power in the country, by taking over Vought and running for president after the previous president resigns in disgrace alongside Stan Edgar over the V-24 fiasco.

Then the final season can have a more interesting confrontation with Homelander, once the whole world is in his fingertips; taking him down would be far more challenging and far more satisfying once he's achieved greater heights than he already has. Basically, imagine that you're up against Injustice Superman, except he actually got voted into power a la Chancellor Palpatine, and the whole world sees him as a hero for defeating Vought and the Feds and uncovering their unethical experiments. Even the UN and the international community would be on Homelander's side after he "saved the world" from the US government's unethical experiments with V-24 and its plans to create an army of supersoldiers. Imagine the worst aspects of Chancellor Palpatine and Injustice Superman and add in Homelander's trademark unhinged cruelty and a world worshipping him for "saving" them.

Seventh Star said:
What's Stormfront like? Is she a caricature, or entertaining? I might get into this series and I'd like to know if it's standard Hollywood garbage or they do anything interesting with her, mostly because I like her design.


...Among other things. :tomgirl:
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She was an entertaining caricature. At first, she starts with some valid criticisms of Vought, Homelander, and the way things run. (ie. when Vought was pandering to feminists with the "girls get it done" campaign, Stormfront says that both men and women are equally capable.) Then she slowly turns into an alt-right caricature, whining about "fighting for our culture" and "white genocide". When her ties to Nazi Germany are exposed, she goes full-blown nutcase.
 
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im putting a high 2 dollar into the theory that stormfront is actually still alive somehow and they will show this in like the last episode or something of the season or some shit
 
Seventh Star said:
What's Stormfront like? Is she a caricature, or entertaining? I might get into this series and I'd like to know if it's standard Hollywood garbage or they do anything interesting with her, mostly because I like her design.


...Among other things. :tomgirl:
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I tried watching for Stormfront didn’t watch again for a few months. Mostly because I am an elite haxxor edgelord who watches fight club while benching😎

Then I came back and watched episode 2 of the first season and realised what makes it great is probably Homelander and how he is super evil while having the charisma of a president (insert whichever party you hate). Just watch the first and second episode and if it clicks for you like it did for me you’ll binge the first season.

The parts I loved - When they had the strong women of the supes turned into a campaign, they didn’t pull any punches at making fun of Marvel. Frenchie, the mute chick and Marvin all interesting characters, Homelander and A-Train are both delightfully evil and driven.

Homelander meeting his son.

Not so great - Maeve and fish guy pretty boring imo. And there’s a lot of boring scenes involving Hugh becoming more confident. Also I wish the supes had a lot more time on the screen -particularly, seeing them fight together,
 
Deadwaste said:
im putting a high 2 dollar into the theory that stormfront is actually still alive somehow and they will show this in like the last episode or something of the season or some shit
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Yeah let's pool our genius resources of narrative intuition and see if we can decode this enigma of a riddle. She's a nazi who lost an eye and an arm, of course she's coming back as a cyborg, man.
 
The show made a critical error of jetisoning the Black Noir plotline from the comic, along with having Homelander front and center instead of having him appear randomly and on the outskirts of the main plot.

They COULD have salvaged it by having Deep kill Black Noir and then show us Deep, in real time, gaslighting Homelander to drive him insane after Deep got fired. Which ironically would have made for a much better unmasking/villain speech with Deep, complete with shit eating grin, taunting Homelander and Starlight with how the Deep, who both considered a loser, managed to do what no one else could do and utterly destroy Homelander by driving him insane and into staging a coup against the US government that was destined to fail.

But as it stands, I can see Seth fucking Rogen seething in rage over how popular Homelander is given his kike-fueled hatred for non-Jews that is more and more overt in interviews these days and Seth fixating on the attack on Washington and wanting to completely damn Homelander via removing any sympathy/shades of gray via the gaslighting, so the kike can reenact January 6 as the series finale end of series storyline and circle jerk about "owning Trump" and immortalizing the liberal BS version of that day via the series and Homelander himself being reduced to a Trump stand-in that gets knocked down.
 
MirrorNoir said:
The show made a critical error of jetisoning the Black Noir plotline from the comic, along with having Homelander front and center instead of having him appear randomly and on the outskirts of the main plot.
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Homelander is like 90% of the reason I watch the show so I can't say I agree.

Also, new episode is out.
 
Secret Asshole said:
Fuck. Homelander is clearly the best character in the series and if they kill him off this season, then I'm honestly done with the show.
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The show doesn't live more than maybe a couple episodes after Homelander, much like the comics itself. I don't see this show as being one of those that's going to force new stories out of these characters more than they should given that many characters have had their exit already and that the whole show is built upon the anxiety of Homelander snapping and that conflict finally coming to a head. (Again, much like the comic itself.)

I'm just really hoping that when this show does end, it doesn't end the same way the comics did and doesn't put fucking Butcher of all people on a pedestal despite him basically being as much of a shitheel as Homelander.

MirrorNoir said:
The show made a critical error of jetisoning the Black Noir plotline from the comic, along with having Homelander front and center instead of having him appear randomly and on the outskirts of the main plot.
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I agree with you in the sense that the comic dropped the ball on the Black Noir twist and that it had way more potential to be an amazing conclusion to the Supes than what actually happens, but if they weren't going to find an interesting way to promote the twist then I'm glad they didn't go with it at all. Black Noir's probably not going to have very interesting developments in the show because of this, but at list this time around he actually has a prescence in the story rather than the total nothing he is in the comics proper.
 
I think Black Noir’s face reveal could be a red herring to make viewers think he was black. He could still be a Homelander clone. He’s MIA because of the allergy coma or whatever, but Stan could’ve replaced him after that (or sometime before). After the American Hero competition, when they rejected the two black women in place of white/Latino men, it doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility that Vought replaced the black guy with a clone of Homelander. And Edgar was pretty calm after Victoria’s press conference, so it would make sense for him to have something else up his sleeve.
 
I noticed Billy paraphrased Winston Churchill.

They also tried to make antifa look like the good guys.

I don't get the people here that say this show is "impartial", yes it sometimes takes potshops at woke culture but only from a corporate perspective, it doesn't ever actually disagree with their points.
 
Zero0 said:
I noticed Billy paraphrased Winston Churchill.

They also tried to make antifa look like the good guys.

I don't get the people here that say this show is "impartial", yes it sometimes takes potshops at woke culture but only from a corporate perspective, it doesn't ever actually disagree with their points.
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What's with the Winston Churchill in entertainment. These faggots always claim to hate Nazis yet shits on a person who actually fought real Nazis unlike sjws who say they fought nazis when they mean they troll certin right wing accounts.
 
Oats12345 said:
What's with the Winston Churchill in entertainment. These faggots always claim to hate Nazis yet shits on a person who actually fought real Nazis unlike sjws who say they fought nazis when they mean they troll certin right wing accounts.
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I don't think they were shitting on him, billy is hardly the villain of the show.
 
After reading through this thread, a few /tv/ threads and some posts on r/TheBoys, I finally equipped a 0.7 of Danzka Vodka and decided to dive into this shitshow. And even after I went through the aforementioned cesspits I was still a bit disappointed. This is just a political urinal inside a capeshitter wrapper. The whole story revolves around muh evil nazis/muh patriarchy/muh minority rights/muh 4chan is breeding ground for le EBIL NAZIS/muh wahmen should be equal
This is not a capeshitter show, it's yet another outlet for woke politics just this time, rather than having a woke tranny or a brave enby wahman of colour, there are a few muppets with personal conflicts, trying to work through their personal drama in the sake of the greater good.

The villain is not bad because he deeply hates every single normal human, its because he's not woke enough to understand that women are just as good as him.
Unlike previous seasons, which bait you with a solid start and turn into shit after 3 episodes, now it goes down the drain in the first 40mins of episode 1.

There is literally nothing really important or noteworthy happening between episode 1 and 4. Right now this is one of those shows you could watch while skipping every 15 seconds and watching for 5 in between, and at the end of the 1 hour episode you will have missed NOTHING.

Fucking trash.

edit:some typos becase drunk
edit2:the fact that even fucking redditors seem to think it's too much interpersonal drama with way too little drive for the main story, which seems to move as slow as in season 1, should mean enough. You know something sucks when the soyboys with the funkopops call it quits.

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Okay faggots i get it i was partially wrong, i was harsh and the new episode was actually Kino but all else was trash. And I feel like im getting baited again because of a good one episode, and they will totally disappoint me(which is hard because i have no expectations at all about anything, but they just built some with one good episod) and you all cocksuckers will come to the conclusion it sucks overall and i was right by the end of the season because they just CANT make it good for a long time.
 
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p4ddys said:
After reading through this thread, a few /tv/ threads and some posts on r/TheBoys, I finally equipped a 0.7 of Danzka Vodka and decided to dive into this shitshow. And even after I went through the aforementioned cesspits I was still a bit disappointed. This is just a political urinal inside a capeshitter wrapper. The whole story revolves around muh evil nazis/muh patriarchy/muh minority rights/muh 4chan is breeding ground for le EBIL NAZIS/muh wahmen should be equal
This is not a capeshitter show, it's yet another outlet for woke politics just this time, rather than having a woke tranny or a brave enby wahman of colour, there are a few muppets with personal conflicts, trying to work through their personal drama in the sake of the greater good.

The villain is not bad because he deeply hates every single normal human, its because he's not woke enough to understand that women are just as good as him.
Unlike previous seasons, which bait you with a solid start and turn into shit after 3 episodes, now it goes down the drain in the first 40mins of episode 1.

There is literally nothing really important or noteworthy happening between episode 1 and 4. Right now this is one of those shows you could watch while skipping every 15 seconds and watching for 5 in between, and at the end of the 1 hour episode you will have missed NOTHING.

Fucking trash.

edit:some typos becase drunk
edit2:the fact that even fucking redditors seem to think it's too much interpersonal drama with way too little drive for the main story, which seems to move as slow as in season 1, should mean enough. You know something sucks when the soyboys with the funkopops call it quits.
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I had the same issue. it’s because I was trying to like it. But even now I agree the filler can go on for a long time.

Agree That most the seasons are overly melodramatic. it isn’t that special but it makes me laugh. Maybe I just find the combination of magic and violence in the style off the original Punisher, Constantine and Watchmen enough to carry me through it.
 
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