The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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ProudSkibidiTolietAryan said:
Im assuming that happens in the comics but like aint no way a Jet Fighter could kill homelander. Hes bulletproof right?

Well maybe a nuke.. But he could just yeet it back
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The thing about the jets in the comics was that they were carrying a special anti-v missile that would destroy any supes regardless, and that gimmick was established rather early in the comics, but I don't know about the series.

And the imagery of a lone Butcher walking down to the white house loses all meaning in the series.

In the comics this was Butcher committing suicide. He wanted to at least have a crack on Homelander before the missiles destroyed him, but it was also Butcher's way to avoid having to go through his ultimate plan, including the Boys' purge. He was going to kill himself by hitting Homelander with a crowbar.

But shit went clone twist and Butcher was left with no choice but to go down the genocidal path.
 
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TheHarbinger said:
That episode ends with Homelander blasting the clouds with lasers. And the Boys a few dozen yards away from him in an open field. Next episode begins with Homelander at the White House. And the Boys halfway across the country in a secret hideout. With no explanation for how they outran and escaped V1 Homelander. A time skip out of nowhere.
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Yeah lasers = cool but why did Soldier boy make a 180 and give him the V1? Because of muh Clara, who he out of nowhere is deeply in love with? It would have been more interesting if Homelander fought Soldier boy or Bombsight for the V1, making it seem like he’s going to lose but then ends up winning in the end, taking the v1, shooting lasers into the sky and continuing to fight the supes while the boys escape.

It’s also really cool that he’s using his first moments as immortal to plan a theme park.

I saw Kripke said the choking out scene was Soldier boys last so it seems like he won’t be coming out of the cryo chamber until he’s in Mexico. Is Ackles seriously gonna be in both spin/offs?
 
I kind of liked how SB decided to fuck off because his son is just too weird. Even his abandonment was supportive, he encouraged his son.

Unfortunately, his son's defining trait is horrifying abandonment issues. As to the tube, I like how he was kind of smirking.

If that is a wrap for SB, Good. They haven't had shit for him to do in two seasons, that mansion fight reminded us he does know how to fight. I imagine the telefrag shit is something they actually did as a team, so him flipping that around was cool. But even that whole story was a WASTE OF FUCKING TIME.
 
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1:01:46 of S5EP7 has the word Pedo written on the wall...in the boys' base... right before Frenchie dies...
EDIT: Realized it's supposed to be Starlight but still, it looks like something from Epstein's mansion
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Much like Invincible the powerscaling is just so fucking wack. "The strongest hero/villain has super strength- but eventually it becomes such a non-power that everyone can beat everyone up and whether they die is a matter of plot armor"
 
Me•cha•ni•cal said:
I saw Kripke said the choking out scene was Soldier boys last so it seems like he won’t be coming out of the cryo chamber until he’s in Mexico. Is Ackles seriously gonna be in both spin/offs?
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Really? I figured they'd be killing of Soldier Boy in the finale but I guess he's too popular plus Ackles probably refused to play yet another character that goes out like a bitch after the way Supernatural ended with Dean Winchester.

I might check out Vought Rising sorely because of Elizabeth Posey but the synopsis makes it sound boring as fuck.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Homelander trying to become God is so stupid, it beggars belief.
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It was shown so many times that Homelander didn't even want to be God or in power. He wanted to be loved and to be a celebrity and didn't even really care for even saving people. Dealing with him would have been the easiest thing in the world. You give him his TV shows, some hot sycophants like Firecracker, help him find hot MILFS in his area and he's good. You could have even easily got him to go along with getting rid of Vought and replacing it with a more regulated company you put him in charge of that's just a big public service and PR thing. What he became is 100% the fault of The Boys. Now he's killed 100 times the people Vought would have ever killed in their existence all because MUH WIFE AND MUH WIFES SON. GG butcher. It's another one of those shows that can only happen because everyone makes the most retarded choice at every single possible crossroads.

Symbol of the Chud said:
I was just struck by a vision of retardation.
The radiation chamber fucking up Homolander this season is "foreshadowing" for Depleted Uranium Rounds being used to kill him like in the comics after chingchong fumbles the bag.
Because "radiation".
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Which is idiotic because I'm pretty sure theyve said a nuke wouldn't kill him which would blast him with a hell of a lot more radiation and pressure than a DU round.
 
The Boys Comic fails as a superhero comic because it was created by somebody who hates superheroes and superhero comics.
The Boys Series fails on more levels because it was created by somebody who hates you.
 
The whole thing of Homelander getting V1 seems to just have ended up being an afterthought even though it was pretty much the main plot point of this season so far.

He was already pretty much the most powerful supe in the world and now he's immortal but all that really changed was that he shot his eye beams into the sky at the end of one episode and will still probably end up being killed anyway because of reasons and OrangeManBad.

I'd love if the next episode was him just murdering everyone simply because he can but i know it won't happen. It would actually be a good ending to the show because it would be a cautionary tale about big business/governments creating things that they ultimately can't control.
 
ZipDisk said:
I kind of liked how SB decided to fuck off because his son is just too weird. Even his abandonment was supportive, he encouraged his son.

Unfortunately, his son's defining trait is horrifying abandonment issues. As to the tube, I like how he was kind of smirking.

If that is a wrap for SB, Good. They haven't had shit for him to do in two seasons, that mansion fight reminded us he does know how to fight. I imagine the telefrag shit is something they actually did as a team, so him flipping that around was cool. But even that whole story was a WASTE OF FUCKING TIME.
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It's basically a tragedy in a way, with how popular Soldier Boy is, and the most they did was spin their gears and accomplish jack fucking shit. Jensen Ackles puts in a great performance, and the character of Soldier Boy is both appealing and charismatic, but they did barely anything worthy with him.

What they should've done with each season is that each season would have a chief bad guy Supe, while Homelander waits in the wings, barely interacting with the heroes, but slowly building his power and influence. Each season they'd defeat a powerful Supe who serves as the "boss character" of that season, while either only having slight skirmishes with Homelander, or in some cases, even working with him to take down a demented Supe.

Then make the final season be the one where Homelander makes his move, and the Boys have to move against him once and for all. As far as the story's been, they spent 5 seasons trying to stop Homelander, and 99% of the time, they failed.

The closest they got to success was when Starlight was made co-captain of the Seven, but then she blows that by saying that Vought and Homelander are liars in a public broadcast, when the right move would've been to either A) rat out Soldier Boy and Butcher to Homelander, or B) help Soldier Boy and Butcher kill Homelander. Get the two most dangerous Supes to kill each other, have Maeve and Annie get Ryan out of the way, then have Maeve and Temp V Butcher kill the winning survivor, who would obviously be in no shape to fight.

Then Starlight would be the only surviving captain of the Seven, and she'd be in a position to seize control of Vought and determine their agenda, especially with Stan Edgar out of the way.

The Boys had two extra seasons, not because the story was just that good, but because the good guys are so hopelessly incompetent.

⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
Much like Invincible the powerscaling is just so fucking wack. "The strongest hero/villain has super strength- but eventually it becomes such a non-power that everyone can beat everyone up and whether they die is a matter of plot armor"
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Welcome to modern capeshit powerscaling. It makes even the most outrageous Shonen anime look positively consistent. Speaking of Invincible, Omni-Man somehow tanks an orbital laser, but a few zombie-bots gives him pause and forces him to struggle.

Symbol of the Chud said:
I was just struck by a vision of retardation.
The radiation chamber fucking up Homolander this season is "foreshadowing" for Depleted Uranium Rounds being used to kill him like in the comics after chingchong fumbles the bag.
Because "radiation".
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That would be funny. Also, it would mean that Homelander, the guy people are so scared of for 5 season straight, would be easily killed by a common sci-fi weapon.

I remember back in 1998, Terran Marines from Starcraft used depleted uranium as ammo. So the common mooks I sent to their deaths in droves back in '98 could turn the big, bad Homelander into Swiss cheese. Adorable.

Dragged Into Sunlight said:
It was shown so many times that Homelander didn't even want to be God or in power. He wanted to be loved and to be a celebrity and didn't even really care for even saving people. Dealing with him would have been the easiest thing in the world. You give him his TV shows, some hot sycophants like Firecracker, help him find hot MILFS in his area and he's good. You could have even easily got him to go along with getting rid of Vought and replacing it with a more regulated company you put him in charge of that's just a big public service and PR thing. What he became is 100% the fault of The Boys. Now he's killed 100 times the people Vought would have ever killed in their existence all because MUH WIFE AND MUH WIFES SON. GG butcher. It's another one of those shows that can only happen because everyone makes the most retarded choice at every single possible crossroads.
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The irony is that their characterization of Homelander has to be one of the most pessimistic I've ever seen of someone viewing humanity. All Homelander saw of humans is the scummy part; if it wasn't Madeline Stillwell or Stan Edgar manipulating him, it's those scientists in that lab who tortured and brainwashed him as a kid. And we're supposed to be surprised when he acts like humans are pieces of shit?

Hell, here's an idea: imagine if, when Homelander went to Butcher after Vought started promoting Starlight, Butcher passes the idea on to Homelander that he doesn't need to work for Vought, and that he can work with the CIA and help the country for real, and be loved. Homelander takes the offer, he leaves Vought behind, and he starts working under Robert Singer and Grace Mallory, serving as an extra pair of super-powered hands in the cases when the CIA needs someone dead. Then the Feds start promoting Homelander as an American hero who works for Uncle Sam to compete with Vought, and the Feds give him his own penthouse suite filled with big-breasted MILFS whom he plows and drinks milk from all day, while giving Stan Edgar and Vought the middle finger salute every time he flies by their tower.

He'd have something to do, he'd have a lot of "incentive" to stay loyal, and he'd be an honest American patriot serving God and country for real, as opposed to whatever fake corporate shit Vought is doing.

Symbol of the Chud said:
The Boys Comic fails as a superhero comic because it was created by somebody who hates superheroes and superhero comics.
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It doesn't even work properly as an anti-superhero work, because the Boys in the comic are superhumans themselves thanks to them having Compound V. So it's just one tribe of Supes butchering other Supes while pretending to hate the idea of Supes.

Butcher is the only one who actually is consistent, since he goes so far as to purge the other members of the Boys.

Symbol of the Chud said:
The Boys Series fails on more levels because it was created by somebody who hates you.
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More like someone who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. It's a lot less like malice and a lot more like he really is just an idiot. There's a difference between the two.

trent said:
I'd love if the next episode was him just murdering everyone simply because he can but i know it won't happen. It would actually be a good ending to the show because it would be a cautionary tale about big business/governments creating things that they ultimately can't control.
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That would be a very poignant lesson especially with AI today, but that would never be done in a thousand years because it'd make the show-writers angry.

trent said:
The whole thing of Homelander getting V1 seems to just have ended up being an afterthought even though it was pretty much the main plot point of this season so far.

He was already pretty much the most powerful supe in the world and now he's immortal but all that really changed was that he shot his eye beams into the sky at the end of one episode and will still probably end up being killed anyway because of reasons and OrangeManBad.
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Basically, the one guy who was already the strongest in the planet got even stronger, which barely changes jack shit in the story. Unless Homelander starts tossing fucking skyscrapers like he's Godzilla or something, it's not gonna matter in the least.
 
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So, at this point, it's easy to say the Boys ending is going to be terrible, and everyone knows it, including Erica Kirpke, who decided to pull the "Well, it was always meant to suck ass!"

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In fact, there's an entire article about him bitching about fans complaining about all the filler in the final season of his own show.
Constantly complaining about his fans and claiming they only want to see people fighting, even though one of the main premises of the comics was killing superpowered celebrities. Yet, the show is simply Eric Kirpke's whiny fanfic about how he hates Trump and people who follow him.

I'll send a link to the article below, but here's his response.


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The original soundtrack for the season has been released and some of the tracks sound.... really good? Here is the entire playlist ,including unheard EP8 tracks that start from "The Speech (Full Version) onwards

The Speech sounds very ominous at first and then it explodes, this has to be Homelander finally snapping and starting to kill people en masse, it would simply fit nothing else in the story and it's almost 7 minutes long. It honestly sounds really cool, but we'll see how it looks. This is probably the best musical piece of the entire season.

The other tracks are also interesting, varying from stuff that can be used for "muh becca" sad moments or straight up Homelander brain squish tracks.

"Shock and awe is epic" in the same way the previous track is and ends with a sound similar to a plane/something crashing.

"It has always been you" is some sad shit, maybe ghost Becca.

"Blood and bone" is definitely a Homelander scene, probably the one from the poster where he looks over earth.

"To the tower" sounds generic, but it clearly means Vought tower. "Canary in the coal mine" could be a Butcher and/or Hughie scene.

"The Wreckage" is probably the brain squish scene? I can totally see it. "Goodbye" is also a melancholic piece. "Last Diabolical Dance" sounds so good as an action/fight track, but it would probably be the series recap music at the start, because that's the most jewish thing they could do.
 
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