The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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there are a lot of fans of the boys who are just exposing themselves one by one with how they feel towards homelander's death
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Yeah NIGGER, we LOVE Homelander and he shouldn't have been killed because he is a epic character. Actual tourists.
 
BiggestKai said:
Because one could look at Season 1 and weep at how it weaved a compelling story while still being funny in a few non crude ways and also not look like it has all of 3 sets and a CG budget of 5 dollars and a cinematographer who couldn't give a shit if his life depended on it.
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I found S1 CrapGI endearing
 
The ending felt rushed and kind of went on a wet fart. But, it was a perfectly decent ending after how shitty all this season went.

Although I must say that Anthony Starr gave a generational perfomance in this show, probably one of the best villains portrayed in a superhero series since Heath Ledger.
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
I don't technically have a problem with Homelander begging like a little bitch once he loses his powers
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I don't have a problem with it in a vacuum, but it comes off as weird to have this self-righteous humiliation ritual after five seasons of humanizing him and detailing how he became this way out of a lifetime of people conditioning him, torturing him and fucking him over. All while other terrible characters who enabled/aided him get to grandstand and fuck off scot-free to get their happy ending or be treated with tragic reverence at their deaths.

I wouldn't have even had it dignified, just cut out the jokes and one liners and just have Homelander silently stare into the inevitable, unable to process it before the crowbar comes down.
 
Lodoss Warrior said:
This is just one of the myriad reasons this ending is dogshit.

Love it or hate it, Homelander was made to be tragic, or at the very least, as much of a victim as the millions he torments.

So why is the kill so spiteful and out-of-character? He should be in a total mental break. He had multiple personalities all screaming in his head, straight up hallucinates, and more. Why is he talking more about sucking Butcher's dick? Why are his last words the most Marvel ass "I AM NOUN!"?

The show wanted to have its cake and eat it too: make a compelling antagonist in season 1, make him a pitiable loser in seasons 2-5, then make him the most moustache twirling, shallow Trump parody in those very same seasons.

So, the message? If you are a stand-in for a politician the writers don't like, your death is one elongated humiliation ritual while your sympathetic moments are completely ignored.

Sister Sage, the misanthrope who happily sent people to their deaths for her apocalyptic schemes, receives a get out of jail free card. I wonder why?
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Marxists do not really believe in their cope about sympathetic criminals who need therapy and welfare to fix environmental socioeconomic factors. It's a bio-leninist shit test to disrupt high trust societies while they hypocritically treat anyone nicer/richer/better than themselves as irredeemable out of envious spite.
 
StarkRavingMad said:
lol I wake up to see the entire internet hating on the finale.

Apparently there wasn't even a scene of Homelander finally losing it completely and causing a massacre? Way to have absolutely zero weight, zero payoff, and zero stakes.

One of the big reasons why I stopped watching the show after season 2 was because every character at the end of that season appeared to be at the exact same spot as they were at the beginning of season 1. Everything I've heard about the show since, it looks to be that trend continued.

But anyway, I'm sure Drumpf was totally owned.

Also, it's been over a year since Cobra Kai's finale ... And Cobra Kai fans are still sitting pretty, completely overjoyed and satisfied over how our show ended. Had to hear from other fandoms how "cheesy" and "for kids" Cobra Kai was, so it's been a real hoot to watch how much more "intelligent" and "mature" shows like Stranger Things and The Boys worked out for everyone. :story:
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I don’t know what the fuck you were on for the last season of Cobra Kai, but it was total garbage too.
 
I've only watched S1 and I'm glad I did. I do have to say, the guy playing Homelander did a great job, I cannot imagine what it's like to have the character you're most known for get down on his knees and offer to suck dick and eat shit.

I know he is an actor but, holy shit.

Imagine if Anakin Skywalker did that on the fight against Obi-Wan. Or if Sauron suddenly appeared and begged Frodo not to throw the ring into the volcano.
 
I'm thoroughly convinced no "professional" western writer can produce anything of quality anymore. Modern politics, writing tropes, and DEI hires to teams have ensured every product is rifled with trash. Is it any wonder the most successful comics are the equivalent of the average manga? As much as those have a tendency to shit the bed, there is something of actual worth in them for a long stretch rather than being interlined with shit from the onset.
 
Star Classic said:
So... Soldier Boy still hasn't been resolved.
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It's been revealed in interviews that Vought Rising is likely going to be like Better Call Saul. And that Soldier Boy will have some scenes in the future after the finale of The Boys. Probably Stormfront will be shown to be still alive as well seeing at how obvious the hints were "Did you see her body?". And nothing on this show is resolved at all. They clearly needed Gen V season three to actually end the stories.

- Compound V formula is still known to people and there are still super beings running around unchecked.
- Vought, a company whose Homelander product murdered the U.S. President, is still allowed to exist. There's no public or government backlash whatsoever.
- Stan Edgar, who ran a secret Nazi bio-weapons company, is CEO again and not in jail. No public outcry.
- Soldier Boy is alive and now the most powerful superhero on Earth with no more CIA team to stop him.
- There are still young children with super powers like Stillwell's adopted son who need handlers or a special university.

Essentially Vought is still around. Edgar could just make another Homelander tomorrow. And nothing has changed.
 
TheHarbinger said:
It's been revealed in interviews that Vought Rising is likely going to be like Better Call Saul. And that Soldier Boy will have some scenes in the future after the finale of The Boys. Probably Stormfront will be shown to be still alive as well seeing at how obvious the hints were "Did you see her body?". And nothing on this show is resolved at all. They clearly needed Gen V season three to actually end the stories.

- Compound V formula is still known to people and there are still super beings running around unchecked.
- Vought, a company whose Homelander product murdered the U.S. President, is still allowed to exist. There's no public or government backlash whatsoever.
- Stan Edgar, who ran a secret Nazi bio-weapons company, is CEO again and not in jail. No public outcry.
- Soldier Boy is alive and now the most powerful superhero on Earth with no more CIA team to stop him.
- There are still young children with super powers like Stillwell's adopted son who need handlers or a special university.

Essentially Vought is still around. Edgar could just make another Homelander tomorrow. And nothing has changed.
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It's going to get cancelled.
 
I will say that I'm somewhat surprised that they didn't have Starlight kill The Deep in some kind of over-the-top GIRL POWER manner.

Instead she basically spends 70% of their fight trying to get him to switch sides and then blasts him into the ocean where he quite literally gets assraped to death by an octopus which she seems completely shocked by so I'm not even sure she was intentionally trying to kill him with that.
 
That was shit, show has just been in continuous decline since the Translucent plot ended. Less and less good bits each season. Even if you keep the main structure for the ending, they managed to choose the worst possible way to go about every aspect.
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
Yeah but like I said the EIC didn't have an exclusive monopoly on the creation and control of walking wunderwaffes. Vought does so what exactly is the US going to do when they tell them to get in line and Vought tells the government to go fuck themselves? Not like the US government would have anything to threaten them with.
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It's not like the US government can drop a tactical nuke on Vought HQ, or bribe Vought scientists like Vogelbaum to divulge the Compound V formula and the exact methods they used to create Homelander or something.

I mean, back when America was the only country with an atom bomb, there sure as hell weren't people sneaking the secrets out to outside parties like the Soviets and the Israelis, right?

TheAmbiguousLurker said:
I don't have a problem with it in a vacuum, but it comes off as weird to have this self-righteous humiliation ritual after five seasons of humanizing him and detailing how he became this way out of a lifetime of people conditioning him, torturing him and fucking him over. All while other terrible characters who enabled/aided him get to grandstand and fuck off scot-free to get their happy ending or be treated with tragic reverence at their deaths.

I wouldn't have even had it dignified, just cut out the jokes and one liners and just have Homelander silently stare into the inevitable, unable to process it before the crowbar comes down.
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Like I said before, I would've at least have Homelander openly spite Butcher. Get him to go for the kill. Openly remind him that Becca is dead. At least give the main villain of the show a dignified way of dying.

Nobody would fear Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars if he shat himself when Mace Windu had him cornered, or when Vader lifted him up to be thrown into the reactor.

TheHarbinger said:
- Compound V formula is still known to people and there are still super beings running around unchecked.
- Vought, a company whose Homelander product murdered the U.S. President, is still allowed to exist. There's no public or government backlash whatsoever.
- Stan Edgar, who ran a secret Nazi bio-weapons company, is CEO again and not in jail. No public outcry.
- Soldier Boy is alive and now the most powerful superhero on Earth with no more CIA team to stop him.
- There are still young children with super powers like Stillwell's adopted son who need handlers or a special university.

Essentially Vought is still around. Edgar could just make another Homelander tomorrow. And nothing has changed.
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They dealt with the symptom of the problem, not its cause. And it won't take long for Vought and Stan Edgar to create Homelander/Soldier Boy 2.0.

They really did accomplish nothing, did they?
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
Like I said before, I would've at least have Homelander openly spite Butcher. Get him to go for the kill. Openly remind him that Becca is dead. At least give the main villain of the show a dignified way of dying.
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I think Homelander was required to have a pathetic death given the god theme they've been working on the whole season. They just did it in the worst way possible. Have him try to fight Butcher and let him be knocked around like a bitch for a bit. Make it cruel. Show him that he is pathetic without his powers. Hell, tie it into one of the other themes of the season. Nobody in the room is scared of him now. Make him realize that as he is killed. The pleading they went with is just gross.
 
Dire.

The entire thing was wrapped up halfway through the episode with muh heckin' mon coeur power of love and heart of the cards Poke Master magical force making the bad guy turn gay for some reason once he lost his powers.

Homelander getting the V1 was completely pointless even though it was the main plot point of most of the episodes this season.

Modern TV is shit.
 
I only watched Season 1 because it was an okay 'monster of the week' show at the time. After that was from memes, and friends watching and sharing their thoughts with me.
To see Homelander's death was strange. I can see him going out as a pathetic wreck but they did it in the worst way possible.
Mandy's version of "I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK" worked because the movie wasn't filled with dick jokes and the villain was having a whole scene of him breaking down with the protagonist getting near, the cult leader saying that line out of nowwhere drives home that he is reduced to a worm looking at the inevitable.
Homelander's, from what I've heard, feels more like a case of Writer's Barely Disguised Fetish instead of a delusional man-reduced-to-nothing death.
 
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