The change in Lolcow power dynamics. - Why is liking dark and edgy stuff is now considered a lolcow trait?

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

NOTE: This is the continuation of this post. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/you-know-what-grinds-my-gears.41174/page-608#post-16198742
Hello. I have notice something very odd with how the internet online treats lolcows in the contemporary day.

A long time ago, if someone who is in their 20s or 30s admitted they liked a preschool show, people would mock and laugh at the user and make them a lolcow. Today, no adult gets mocked for watch preschool shows in their 20s and 30s, yet when adults like dark and edgy stuff that range from anime to even prime time shows like Sons of Anarchy which is suitable for their age and such, the internet would now mock the person who likes dark and edgy stuff.

Why is it that liking stuff for adults is now a lolcow trait in the eyes of most people online?
Is it because the new generation has different tastes in media.

 

[Tism the Return II]

The new kids didn't get bullied hard enough.

 

[Meat Target]

Normal people want solace from Clown World's cynicism and nihilism. Dark and Edgy has been done to death.

It's why I came to hate grimdark shit like Game of Thrones. If I wanted a story where the bad guys always win and the good guys are idealistic fools, I'd just watch the news.

That said, it's also why there are no longer original ideas in entertainment, only an endless rehashing of nostalgiabait. The best way to separate millenials from their money is to keep them living in the past. Even then, those nostalgiabait crumbs are laced with "modern reimaginings" and "subverting expectations", which is just a fart-huffing way of saying "retconned to fit Clown World orthodoxies".

 

[Moja Zemlja]

Edgy stuff has been mocked for years what are you on about, the term itself is one of derision.

 

[Uncle Phil]

Going for over-the-top edgy shit can easily come off as overcompensation, like driving a smoke-belching monster truck or making videos of shooting your gun collection.

Alternatively it can give the impression that the person is an aging nerd who hasn't developed emotionally since the 90s and still reads Spawn comics.

 

[Jason Wynn]

I didn’t realize liking edgy shit was a lolcow trait now.

I guess because I don’t give enough of a fuck to care if some autist thinks I’m on Chris Chan’s level for liking certain media.

It’s all about how you present yourself. There’s a difference between liking things seen as dark or edgy, and then there’s being an edgelord. I like the 90s animated Spawn series, that’s pure oldschool edgy cheese. One of my favorite video games from the same era is Shadowman 64, which was pretty edgy and grim for the time period. Just enjoying those things but not obsessing over them I don’t see an issue with, and that’s the difference between a regular person and a cow.

I guess I’m a hypocrite though because I still think if you’re a grown-ass man watching Bluey or Peppa Pig you deserve to be mocked and called a faggot.

 

[Radola Gajda]

Too many edge lords are fake and gay either they do 180° moment they get any push back or they push it too far and whole edginess ends up being cringe.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

I didn’t realize liking edgy shit was a lolcow trait now.

Well, you might be a younger gen x or a older millenial. I think the generation that now considered liking edgy media a lolcow trait might be the younger end of the millenial generation or the older Gen Z because those generations are all Disney and Nintendo loving soycucks who think anything that isn’t a cartoon is edgelord trash.

I guess because I don’t give enough of a fuck to care if some autist thinks I’m on Chris Chan’s level for liking certain media.

You shouldn’t give a fuck if some idiot calls you a lolcow just because you have a taste of media that they don’t like on a astheticical level. Different generations have different narrow set of asthetics that are considered acceptable in their eyes.

It’s all about how you present yourself.

This is 100% true. Now with a whole generation of people who still watch preschool and kids cartoons and related media in their 20s, being a lolcow in the modern day is no longer about what you watch, but how you behave in front of the internet. I still think however, the media asthetics that you surround yourself with predetermines your fate as a lolcow.

I still think if you’re a grown-ass man watching Bluey or Peppa Pig you deserve to be mocked and called a faggot.

Hey Dwight, you just made a brand new friend with me right here. I 100% agree with you on this. Grown ass preschool fans are some of the most insufferable and toxic pieces of shit I have to deal with on the internet. So much of these motherfuckers think I’m some sociopath just because I’m not into some shitty childish cartoon that they are into. You literally cannot co-exist with these pretentious idiots. These fuckers will now get you banned from forums if you don’t like their taste in shitty cartoons. Plus, plenty of them have been outed as groomers, which essentially validate my point.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Both of them are cringe but I can't say that without being accused of being an enlightened centrist these days.

 

[Mothra1988]

Zoomers are soft becuase their millenial parents tried to shield them from anything other than Pixar shit during their childhood. They didn't grow up watch R-rated movies on VHS like we did. Not that I don't like cute stuff, I do. But I can like either or. Some "grim dark" stuff just goes too far though. That cringey furry comic is a good example.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

Zoomers are soft becuase they're millenial parents tried to shield them from anything other than Pixar shit during their childhood.

True, however, it’s not millennials doing it. It’s often the Boomers and Gen X doing it, usually of a fundie/moral guardian type stuff. Millennial parents are often more permissive of degenerate lefty values though.

They didn't grow up watch R-rated movies on VHS like we did.

Well, older to mid zoomers did have unmoderated and uncensored access to the internet so they did see some r-rated action flicks on Putlocker and 123movies.

Some "grim dark" stuff just goes too far though.

Yes. The vast majority of the over the top “edgelord” crap is from the 2000s. They went too far with the gore and it’s not badass or scary. It’s dumb and gross. It’s possible that because certain media was so edgy, dark, and gorey that the decades that followed went the opposite route and became very light and soft.

 

[Mothra1988]

Yes. The vast majority of the over the top “edgelord” crap is from the 2000s. They went too far with the gore and it’s not badass or scary. It’s dumb and gross. It’s possible that because certain media was so edgy, dark, and gorey that the decades that followed went the opposite route and became very light and soft.

You can actually do extreme gore and not have it come off as "edgelord crap." Watch any Dario Argento movie and you'll get that. Most American directors are just dumb and have no tact. They don't understand how horror movies work, how to shoot set pieces or anything else.

Also I"m goign to say I liked the edgier early 90's comic books a lot more than the PC post-Obama crap that modern comic book retards tolerate. Stuff like Jim Lee era X-Men, Death of Superman, Gen 13, etc. were cool. There's nothing cool about modern Disney-ized super hero stuff at all.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

Watch any Dario Argento movie and you'll get that

Dario Argento‘s most iconic films were made in the 1970s-1980s, 2 decades before the edgy crap became a mainstay in the west between mid 1990s-early 2010s

Most American directors are just dumb and have no tact. They don't understand how horror movies work, how to shoot set pieces or anything else.

Yes. This can be applied to the 2010s “childish” and “cutesy” animation. Hollywood for the most part don’t know how to properly made movies or tv series made with a genuine soul. They have been losing out to other entertainment industries across the world for this reason alone.

 

[Mothra1988]

Dario Argento‘s most iconic films were made in the 1970s-1980s, 2 decades before the edgy crap became a mainstay in the west between mid 1990s-early 2010s

Yeah, I know, but I mean that there's a way to do gore without the dumb "torture porn" edge stuff. The gore in Argento's movies are still some of the strongest stuff every put on film, but when you watch them it's like looking at a painting since the shots are so masterfully composed. None of the American gore movies have this level of craft or art in them at all.

Yes. This can be applied to the 2010s “childish” and “cutesy” animation. Hollywood for the most part don’t know how to properly made movies or tv series made with a genuine soul. They have been losing out to other entertainment industries across the world for this reason alone.

It's a complete misunderstanding of what makes a good kids movie because Pixar and helicopter parents fucking ruined everything. Good children's movies are supposed to have scary and unsettling shit in them. It's why olden fairy tales are interesting. Walt Disney understood this when he made Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Hell, the people who made the 80's Care Bear movies understood this. There's a reason why the best kids moves are stuff like the Never Ending Story, that movie is fucking terrifying.

But new children's movies are soft and include endless one liners/pop culture references to suck up to their dumb parents. I guess DreamWorks is part to blame for this too, but it's the whole CGI kids movie style that fucking destroyed the genre and just made it into commercial cash grab shit.

I mean I guess I watch edgless moe slice of life stuff to relax, becuase I need my girly cute me time, but I'm an adult. It may be paradoxical to some of these dumb overprotective parents, but children should sometimes be exposed to media that challenges them a bit. The world isn't a wholly positive place after all. You need a thick skin.