Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd The Chris-Chan Extortionists - and the End of Evangelion

[Mariposa Electrique]

I don't know about you, but we don't get full email leaks for every criminal who gets thrown into the system

Who's fault is that? Chris'. No one hacked into his email. Also, criminals always get embarassing phone calls doxxed, which are way more embarrassing.

Like I get that people don't like to admit to the fact that they're stalking an insane and mentally disabled person on the internet, but that's the exact reality of it, whether we like it or not

It's not stalking when it's readily available. Hacking into someone's cloud account and stealing their dick picks is considered stalking. Following the antics of a literal retard on the Internet is not stalking. So yes it is moralfagging, which is not the purpose of this board.

 

[Jack Awful]

I don't know about you, but we don't get full email leaks for every criminal who gets thrown into the system.

Also, I think there is a difference between moralfagging and pointing out the collective cognitive dissonance we're seeing here. Like I get that people don't like to admit to the fact that they're stalking an insane and mentally disabled person on the internet, but that's the exact reality of it, whether we like it or not.

@Gym Leader Elesa really said it best here. Some people just don't want to confront what they're doing here because then it will impact their ego somehow.

Chris is severely mentally disabled and it's fun to follow him around and laugh at him. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's pretty much the same as people who stalk celebrities online, but the celebrities' mental impairments are slightly less obvious.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

It's pretty much the same as people who stalk celebrities online, but the celebrities' mental impairments are slightly less obvious.

TMZ stalks celebrities, they literally swarm them at every turn and have been prosecuted for it. Fans follow Twitter wars between people like Niki Minaj and Cardi B. We follow the online feud between Chris and reality.

 

[AnOminous]

It's not normal to go to a specific hearing for a specific person that you don't personally know.

Any courthouse in the country has a half dozen locals who show up at shit just randomly. I even remember one really old dude who would show up in the morning, even brought a lunch, and just wandered around all day. It's a less annoying version of the guy who always shows up to make a ruckus about bullshit at town hall meetings.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Any courthouse in the country has a half dozen locals who show up at shit just randomly. I even remember one really old dude who would show up in the morning, even brought a lunch, and just wandered around all day. It's a less annoying version of the guy who always shows up to make a ruckus about bullshit at town hall meetings.

Or like that crazy guy who walks around malls talking to himself. Or maybe even that creepy middle aged guy who goes to events for 20 something year olds only to hand out free kisses to all the fellas.

 

[Done]

Chris is severely mentally disabled and it's fun to follow him around and laugh at him. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's pretty much the same as people who stalk celebrities online, but the celebrities' mental impairments are slightly less obvious.

I already said that people like Chris or DSP essentially experience the Internet's version of the Paparazzi.

 

[Snuckening]

This seems to just be a personal view of yours, rather than any descriptive statement of how real life works. I think Chris has adequately established that he can function basically as an adult. He can pay bills, feed himself, attend court, etc... I believe he's demonstrated enough understanding of moral right and wrong, as well. Chris can certainly meet some minimum requirements for being responsible for himself. However, Chris has simultaneously demonstrated limited decision making capabilities, limited understanding of the consequences of his actions, and diminished mental capabilities.

Chris is legally an adult with most of his mental capabilities being on par with a 12 year old. He's an adult autistic child.

Of course Chris has terrible decision making and potplant-tier IQ, but he is living under the paradigm I described- He is, in the end, considered a competent adult who gets to make his own decisions, and is ultimately the only one responsible for his actions, and for the outcomes of his decisions. The courts may take it easy on the punishments they give Chris ("leeway for mental illness", like I said), but in the end Chris is the only person responsible for Chris's actions/decisions, just like with any other adult. The courts dialing down punishment for Chris will never make Chris's decisions and actions into the responsibility of anyone except Chris.

My issue isn't with how the world, or the courts treats Chris, it's with how certain sections of KF tries to spin and distort Chris's actions and circumstances, as if no matter how Chris acts, they expect the entire public/internet to calmly step around him and ignore the flailing mongo babbling about "Hey you!! I'm da CPU Goddess with Hedgehog Superpowers doncha know? Tell err'body!!!" in the middle of the street. People aren't going to ignore that, and some aren't going to limit themselves to politely standing and watching from a distance. (Like with absolutely everyone else, but especially with people who choose to be in the public eye and chase 'celebrity' status) If Chris decides to act in a way that leaves himself open to being fucked with, there's no shortage of people out there who'll happily step in to fuck with him. And the only person who can stop that happening is Chris.

(And that's not a defense, or absolution, of the embarrassing, bottom-tier rctarded shitstains who do fuck with Chris. But hand-wringing and playing rctarded-shitstain-whack-a-mole, is pointless- there'll never be a shortage of bottom-tier rctarded shitstains in the world)

 

[DeathHeat]

Or like that crazy guy who walks around malls talking to himself. Or maybe even that creepy middle aged guy who goes to events for 20 something year olds only to hand out free kisses to all the fellas.

Past tense wit dat shit.

Yeah, it's been a while though.

 

[Marvin]

He is, in the end, considered a competent adult who gets to make his own decisions, and is ultimately the only one responsible for his actions

This is like "racism is prejudice+power" nonsense. Or for a less political comparison "a tomato is a fruit durr hurr hurr".

There are frequently multiple valid contexts' in which to define words. Only autists thinks each word has One True Definition™. My favorite red flag for when these kinds of arguments are when people start off by saying "technically...". Technically nothing, there isn't just one universal context for all words. That's spergy.

With racism, the "prejudice+power" definition is only within the limited context of some specific academic sociological theories. (It's not even necessarily the standard sociological perspective.) And likewise with the tomato thing, tomatoes are botanically / biologically fruits. In the much, much more common culinary sense, a tomato is a vegetable.

As this applies to Chris, only in the extremely restricted legal sense is Chris a competent adult. In everyday, colloquial speech, he's nothing close to being a competent adult. Unless you're a lawyer defending Chris or a prosecutor trying to press charges against Chris, or a judge deciding his case, there's no reason to be that pedantic.

My issue isn't with how the world, or the courts treats Chris, it's with how certain sections of KF tries to spin and distort Chris's actions and circumstances, as if no matter how Chris acts, they expect the entire public/internet to calmly step around him and ignore the flailing mongo babbling about "Hey you!! I'm da CPU Goddess with Hedgehog Superpowers doncha know? Tell err'body!!!" in the middle of the street.

No one expects everyone to ignore him. Lots of people will stare, that's unavoidable.

The problem is when those people take the next step beyond just staring and say "Chris deserves this, he can change this if he wants to".

That sort of statement is just as valid as people telling the twelve year old not to get groomed by perverts on the internet. Chris is not a competent adult.

 

[Mr. 0]

That sort of statement is just as valid as people telling the twelve year old not to get groomed by perverts on the internet. Chris is not a competent adult.

Chris is a pervert on the internet. Who had cybersex with a 12 year old (and shit himself during the reveal) while Bob Walked In

 

[Marvin]

Chris is a pervert on the internet. Who had cybersex with a 12 year old (and shit himself during the reveal) while Bob Walked In

Heh, you're making my point for me. Chris thought bluespike was an adult woman, when he was obviously a thirteen year old boy. Like I said: Chris is not a competent adult.

 

[Mr. 0]

Heh, you're making my point for me. Chris thought bluespike was an adult woman, when he was obviously a thirteen year old boy. Like I said: Chris is not a competent adult.

But Chris is a pervert on the internet with the video raking in millions of views. And he's competent enough to rip off anyone dumb enough to give him money.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Heh, you're making my point for me. Chris thought bluespike was an adult woman, when he was obviously a thirteen year old boy. Like I said: Chris is not a competent adult.

There are some truly incompetent people out there; people who are so literally retar-ded that it's pointless to expect them to do anything right. It would be like being surprised when a dog can't do calculus. A couple people like that pop up here and usually their threads aren't very populated because, well, a literal retard doing retarded things just isn't that interesting.

Chris isn't quite there. Sure, it's a continuum, so I'm not saying that "Chris isn't legally ruled to be incompetent and that's all that matters" but I think the salient metric is: is he competent enough to laugh at? I say yes. Along with the tism and being dumb he has just enough narcissism, ingratitude and laziness (plus his 'wheelin and dealin' schemes) to make him more than just some sperg. He could improve but that would be hard, so he doesn't.

Edit:

No, Chris is very secretive about who "Magichan" is. With Wise and Boyd, Chris refused to admit he was talking to anyone other than through his mind. He was actually talking to them through Discord, but he kept lying...
Getting Chris to tell the truth about this is like pulling teeth.

Oh and his lying.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

This is like "racism is prejudice+power" nonsense. Or for a less political comparison "a tomato is a fruit durr hurr hurr".

There are frequently multiple valid contexts' in which to define words. Only autists thinks each word has One True Definition™. My favorite red flag for when these kinds of arguments are when people start off by saying "technically...". Technically nothing, there isn't just one universal context for all words. That's spergy.

With racism, the "prejudice+power" definition is only within the limited context of some specific academic sociological theories. (It's not even necessarily the standard sociological perspective.) And likewise with the tomato thing, tomatoes are botanically / biologically fruits. In the much, much more common culinary sense, a tomato is a vegetable.

As this applies to Chris, only in the extremely restricted legal sense is Chris a competent adult. In everyday, colloquial speech, he's nothing close to being a competent adult. Unless you're a lawyer defending Chris or a prosecutor trying to press charges against Chris, or a judge deciding his case, there's no reason to be that pedantic.

No one expects everyone to ignore him. Lots of people will stare, that's unavoidable.

The problem is when those people take the next step beyond just staring and say "Chris deserves this, he can change this if he wants to".

That sort of statement is just as valid as people telling the twelve year old not to get groomed by perverts on the internet. Chris is not a competent adult.

That's a terrible comparison. At the end of the say and pedantics aside, Chris refuses to change after being warned millions of times, so he'll get what's coming to him.

 

[Wrathcaster]

Heh, you're making my point for me. Chris thought bluespike was an adult woman, when he was obviously a thirteen year old boy. Like I said: Chris is not a competent adult.

You still haven't explained why the fuckhead troon feeding Chris' delusions goes undoxxed. If there's a fucked up asshole teen feeding a mentally incompetent man's delusions, why does this little shit get a pass?

 

[Marvin]

You still haven't explained why the fuckhead troon feeding Chris' delusions goes undoxxed. If there's a fucked up asshole teen feeding a mentally incompetent man's delusions, why does this little shit get a pass?

I don't know who's feeding Chris' delusions.

 

[Ghostbeater]

You still haven't explained why the fuckhead troon feeding Chris' delusions goes undoxxed. If there's a fucked up asshole teen feeding a mentally incompetent man's delusions, why does this little shit get a pass?

I slowly get the feeling they cover someones ass. Something does not add up here.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Like I get that people don't like to admit to the fact that they're stalking an insane and mentally disabled person on the internet, but that's the exact reality of it, whether we like it or not.

LOL why are you here then? Stop stalking Chris.

 

[Marvin]

I slowly get the feeling they cover someones ass. Something does not add up here.

No, Chris is very secretive about who "Magichan" is. With Wise and Boyd, Chris refused to admit he was talking to anyone other than through his mind. He was actually talking to them through Discord, but he kept lying about that. He believed magichan was inhabiting their bodies or some shit (or whatever they told him), but he knew if he told anyone he was talking to them on Discord, they'd call them trolls. Same thing this time. According to Chris, he's only talking to Magichan in his mind.

Getting Chris to tell the truth about this is like pulling teeth.

 

[Done]

LOL why are you here then? Stop stalking Chris.

Didn't pretend that I was better than anyone, mate. Have moved on to far better lolcows.