Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd The Chris-Chan Extortionists - and the End of Evangelion

[Red Sun]

I'm pretty sure it is, although I'm not an American lawyer. It's basically blackmail, isn't it? Cajoling him into saying he likes interfering with children unless he buys them gift cards.

It's blackmail for sure due to the pedo thing, and possibly extortion as well (as far as I can tell without actual education on the matter) if the court can be convinced that the threats made to destroy CWCville were credible in Chris' mind. Blackmail is the only one that's cut-and-dry, though, since the CWCville argument depends on the court understanding exactly how deluded Chris has ended up.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

They wanted to be a part of Christory? Let them suffer the consequences of that decision.

Your sentiments are as nobel as Null's. With that being said, a lot of people dislike Chris and could care either way.

Take a good long look at their plan of attack, and one thing that immediately jumps out at you is that these despicable blights on the escutcheon of humanity were actively trying to secure additional blackmail material to solidify their control over Chris. I don't care how much you hate Chris - that is the work of a fucking psychopath and it deserves nothing but the contempt of everyone on this forum.

What worries me more are the other Bluespike copycats. I mean, there are endless ways to top Chris punching Barb. Potentially, these people could land Chris on the sex offender's registry, for realz.

I will tell you now: Odds are good that no meaningful consequences will be had from anyone but us: Not from law enforcement, not from the blogosphere that likes to feign care for Chris to blame all his woes on us, and sure as shit not for many of Chris' self-proclaimed friends. But that doesn't mean it's all bad news.

Yeah, it's not just because no one cares. People know Chris and the circus he created for himself, which makes people very stand-offish.

o everyone saying we should give this to the media- don't. Not yet.

Wait until @Null, @Marvin and @The Captain say otherwise. We don't know how the media would react, if they only give a cursory look at Christine's history they wouldn't see her as innocent. There's no denying what those fuckwits have done and how it's a crime, but for now, we wait and see.

The media doesn't care unless it's to trot out some SJW sob story. They see Blarms, blow-up dolls, Tomgirl on MTV, and they run the other way.

 

[Gym Leader Elesa]

Tbf it always was. I feel that a lot of people myself included just kind of ignored how messed up all the trolling really was. Even the liquid Chris stuff which is seen as pretty harmless by most would have been the complete opposite from Chris's perspective

Right or wrong never mattered to the trolls, old or new, and even now, I'm sure much of this thread is just pretending. If Null had come out and said the opposite, siding with the extortionists for some reason, the forum would have gone, "Yeah Null, get'em! Get Chris!"

The "if you close down the subforum, someone else will just set up shop!" argument is proof of this. Essentially, it's a "lesser of two evils" fallacy. It's a way for everyone to take the moral high ground without actually changing their behavior. But they would discard it immediately if they thought they could. That "containment" bullshit is nonsense from people with fake troll's remorse. People don't like to be honest with themselves and admit "I like laughing at retards and there's no real moral justification for this hobby." But it's true of me and everyone here, even the best of us like @Cosmos or @Marvin.

That said, there's no real comparison between the jackasses extorting CWC and most of the original crew (barring Bluespike, etc.) or the members of KF, and it's cool people are stepping in to protect Chris. He's an innocent victim here. I hope he gets a happy life one day.

But none of us are good people. Myself included. Any good person, wouldn't be on KF.

 

[The Jumping Dwarf]

Beware of speds.

Honestly, I know most /cow/fags are either a bunch of pants-shitting spastic A-Logs or Hirtes, but we do know how extremely gullible Chris can be. The last thing we need is some Bluespike-tier edgelord throwing a wrench into the whole thing. @Null @The Captain @Marvin do keep a tight leash on Chris, at least for the time being. For his own sake.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Honestly, I know most /cow/fags are either a bunch of pants-shitting spastic A-Logs or Hirtes or Samuel Collingwood Smith

FTFY

 

[Alpha Centauri]

I'm glad Chris isn't schizophrenic or losing his mind but god damn he genuinely believed a James Bond superweapon on the moon could destroy his dreamland just because a random person said so.

If anybody has seen Barb's appearances in Chris' videos and streams you can easily discern that she looks (at the very least) uncomfortable around him which I thought was just old-people's illnesses setting in, but now that we know Idea Guy got Chris to punch her at least once I can easily see them getting him to potentially abuse her more.

This tragedy convinces me that Chris is too vulnerable to live without access to people who can check his behaviour in real-time, he needs to go into assisted living or something for his and Barb's physical and financial safety. When Barb dies he'll be so ripe for exploitation by sociopaths like Idea Guy that they might irreparably harm Chris.
Will he actually go into care ? Doubt it.

But none of us are good people. Myself included. Any good person, wouldn't be on KF.

I don't think you can call us bad people for having a fascination with Chris. Most people here are merely neutral bystanders who watch Chris like he's a bad episode of Big Brother.

When a person's actions quantifiably start having a negative impact on Chris' livelihood, I would say that is the point at which they become a bad person.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

This is also a good time to tell everyone that most of the funny CWC content throughout the years was not his own original ideas. It's all bullshit. People told him what to do and he did it. "The girlfriend needs you to be a man, record yourself yelling", or "you won't impress Kacey if you don't do the singing contest". So if you have some fond memory of Chris from the years gone by that revolve around his antics, I'm sorry to say, there is no Santa. It was trolls all the way down.

I just want to point out that this isn't true. The Megan saga and the attraction sign were all his doing. The unclit was his doing. The raging over blue arms was all his doing. Most of the stuff that showed up in the Sonichu comic were his ideas.

 

[Red Sun]

I don't think you can call us bad people for having a fascination with Chris. Most people here are merely neutral bystanders who watch Chris like he's a bad episode of Big Brother.

When a person's actions quantifiably start having a negative impact on Chris' livelihood, I would say that is the point at which they become a bad person.

We've been laughing at bullying for years. There's no denying that, and why would we even need to? It was always funny when people manipulated and humiliated a stranger for our entertainment specifically because he could always spring back from it and be the same old sperg the next week. The wiki is dense with remarks like "it's hard to say if Chris even remembers that X saga happened" and "it seems like Chris wasn't too bothered by X heartsweet dying because he made a video about LittleBigPlanet the next day".

The reason the late events aren't funny or comparable to past trolling is twofold:

1: The primary motivation switched from humor to financial gain, which is gay even if Chris wasn't badly affected by it. That's the main difference between making him break his playstation and this; the trolls gained nothing but a funny video from him breaking his shit. (even then i wouldn't have done it if i were a troll, but i'm not gonna call for a witch hunt on whoever did it.)

2: Chris can't just spring back from losing thousands of dollars and having his whole fantasy-land thoroughly raped. This has the potential to make him less funny and more sad in the future because he's actually getting fucked here.

edit: It's always been fucked up is the point I'm trying to make here, but it was still hilarious and that's why we don't dox ourselves. Nobody here wants our families to know what we're laughing at.

 

[Big Meaty Claws]

@The Captain I know its a very basic question and a rather simple one that you may or may not have answered before but what is it like to talk to Chris?

What do you guys talk about and junk? Do you guys like joke a bit here and there and positive stuff?

Just curious, this shit has made me feel really upset over this whole situation, and I wanna know if our best boy Chris is feeling better.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

I just want to point out that this isn't true. The Megan saga and the attraction sign were all his doing. The unclit was his doing. The raging over blue arms was all his doing. Most of the stuff that showed up in the Sonichu comic were his ideas.

Ditto Stephanie Bustcakes, the Eid Pmurt Eid saga, being a Tomgirl, and so forth.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

We've been laughing at bullying for years. There's no denying that, and why would we even need to? It was always funny when people manipulated and humiliated a stranger for our entertainment specifically because he could always spring back from it and be the same old sperg the next week.

Yeah, pretty much. And I feel like some trolls were actually constructive in bringing new content out of him. Asking him questions and lightly coaxing him to make new comics isn't particularly harmful.

 

[Prussian Blue]

Sorry, but that's a question I'd rather not answer at the moment.

This really saddens me and is something I don't ever want to see. I know extorting money from Chris is hideous, but manipulating him to hit his elderly mother (Who, despite their weird relationship, still obviously loves) is disgusting. It sucks this wasn't the "Hang on a minute" moment for him, and it further sucks he would do it all for CWCville and some Sonichus.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Honestly I wonder how these people can live with themselves? Like yeah Chris is funny and fun to laugh at but this is just too far.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

At one point Chris received some texts from either Boyd or Wise attempting to roleplay the Dark Tower with him, to which Chris replied, "I'll do it for $6,000!"

Did Chris come up with this on his own? Because that's a pretty decent burn by his standards.

Also, does Chris understand at this point that our gentle farmers may have exaggerated a bit to gain his trust and try to help him? How does he feel about it?

EDIT: Woops, forgot to tag this so senpai will actually notice me. Will editing it in be enough to summon? Let's find out.

@The Captain

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Beware of speds.

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Honestly, I know most /cow/fags are either a bunch of pants-shitting spastic A-Logs or Hirtes, but we do know how extremely gullible Chris can be. The last thing we need is some Bluespike-tier edgelord throwing a wrench into the whole thing. @Null @The Captain @Marvin do keep a tight leash on Chris, at least for the time being. For his own sake.

/cow/ is just asking for a raid at this point. I'm serious, how they've not been raided yet I'll never know.

At the same time though, how do we know that's not just Wise and/or Boyd being r.etards and trying to get /cow/ to be their personal army?

 

[_Wice]

/cow/ is just asking for a raid at this point. I'm serious, how they've not been raided yet I'll never know.

At the same time though, how do we know that's not just Wise and/or Boyd being r.etards and trying to get /cow/ to be their personal army?

I wouldn’t put that past either of them considering one of them continued his bullshit after being doxed. Then again he might too busy in the process of deleting fucking everything to arrange a personal army. I hope I’m wrong.

 

[repentance]

There are no good options here. If you can somehow get someone to investigate, then it comes out that Chris can be persuaded to assault his mother. That's something which almost guarantees that both he and Barb will be shipped off to some kind of supervised living arrangements.

I wonder if Chris is confused regarding the mortgage. You usually don't make payments on a reverse mortgage. We know that a large mortgage on the house was taken out a couple of years prior to Bob's death. Unless that was somehow paid out when he died, there would have been insufficient equity in the house for Barb to take out a reverse mortgage then. A second mortgage of some kind seems more likely.

 

[Marvin]

I just want to point out that this isn't true. The Megan saga and the attraction sign were all his doing. The unclit was his doing. The raging over blue arms was all his doing. Most of the stuff that showed up in the Sonichu comic were his ideas.

I don't think you're considering the basis of Chris' fame. The vast majority of the material that made Chris famous, the reason we're talking about him today, is largely artificial. Chris became famous because he was the unwitting star of a weekly, sometimes daily, reality show.

Saga after saga drove a dedicated fanbase. Spawned tons of memes. Like the Liquid saga was huge. And it's funny you mention the Megan saga, because the most interesting part of the Megan saga, its meltdown, and she came for cwc, came after the trolls got involved.

The examples you mentioned are ones you picked ex post facto, after you already heard of Chris.

Yes, 99% of Chris content (or the vast majority, let's be conservative and say 90%) was scripted. The examples you picked are like maybe a dozen examples, which is a drop in the ocean compared to the weekly saga content that sucked in viewers to begin with. Chris continues to get new fans, not purely because of anything he's doing now, but because he does something now, and then most crucially, people stumble upon the cwcki and get sucked in.

Ditto Stephanie Bustcakes, the Eid Pmurt Eid saga, being a Tomgirl, and so forth.

Heh, you sure about that? For example, Stephanie Bustcakes was manufactured. Trolls even made up the name.

Basically, you should question your assumptions about everything since Chris started doing shit online.

 

[Neil]

Right or wrong never mattered to the trolls, old or new, and even now, I'm sure much of this thread is just pretending. If Null had come out and said the opposite, siding with the extortionists for some reason, the forum would have gone, "Yeah Null, get'em! Get Chris!"

The "if you close down the subforum, someone else will just set up shop!" argument is proof of this. Essentially, it's a "lesser of two evils" fallacy. It's a way for everyone to take the moral high ground without actually changing their behavior. But they would discard it immediately if they thought they could. That "containment" bullshit is nonsense from people with fake troll's remorse. People don't like to be honest with themselves and admit "I like laughing at exceptional individuals and there's no real moral justification for this hobby." But it's true of me and everyone here, even the best of us like @Cosmos or @Marvin.

That said, there's no real comparison between the jackasses extorting CWC and most of the original crew (barring Bluespike, etc.) or the members of KF, and it's cool people are stepping in to protect Chris. He's an innocent victim here. I hope he gets a happy life one day.

But none of us are good people. Myself included. Any good person, wouldn't be on KF.

In this situation, the plain facts are: A soon-to-be-homeless, extremely mentally autistic man with no support network is being extorted, drained, abused, and tortured by two spineless pieces of shit for teh LULZ.

Any rational human being would be on the side of the soon-to-be-homeless extremely mentally ill autistic man within a femtosecond of reading.

If Null had come out and applauded these assholes' trolling, there'd be staff and user infighting like there's no tomorrow. Fall of NeoGAF-type shit.

 

[The Telomerase Truth]

Right or wrong never mattered to the trolls, old or new, and even now, I'm sure much of this thread is just pretending. If Null had come out and said the opposite, siding with the extortionists for some reason, the forum would have gone, "Yeah Null, get'em! Get Chris!"

The "if you close down the subforum, someone else will just set up shop!" argument is proof of this. Essentially, it's a "lesser of two evils" fallacy. It's a way for everyone to take the moral high ground without actually changing their behavior. But they would discard it immediately if they thought they could. That "containment" bullshit is nonsense from people with fake troll's remorse. People don't like to be honest with themselves and admit "I like laughing at exceptional individuals and there's no real moral justification for this hobby." But it's true of me and everyone here, even the best of us like @Cosmos or @Marvin.

That said, there's no real comparison between the jackasses extorting CWC and most of the original crew (barring Bluespike, etc.) or the members of KF, and it's cool people are stepping in to protect Chris. He's an innocent victim here. I hope he gets a happy life one day.

But none of us are good people. Myself included. Any good person, wouldn't be on KF.

Speak for yourself. I don't come here to laugh at exceptional individuals. I mainly come here because they're often fascinating from a psychological point of view. The main way I get laughs here is from seeing degenerates getting what they deserve (such as these degenerates are going to get from Kiwis after what they did to Chris), not from the cows.

I don't think enjoying what happens to awful people makes me a bad person. When someone does something awful (and often times illegal) it's natural to want to see justice. It's also normal to enjoy it.

I wouldn’t put that past either of them considering one of them continued his bullshit after being doxed. Then again he might too busy in the process of deleting fucking everything to arrange a personal army. I hope I’m wrong.

I really hope you're wrong, too.