Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd The Chris-Chan Extortionists - and the End of Evangelion

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FYI - because I haven't seen anything real concise here yet. This fucking brony is a joke. Don't use the same account names people...


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This has brought me to an epiphany I believe would be useful for those of us not in a position to get Chris legal, clinical, or other forms of direct redress.

Considering his tormentors have proven they are criminal scum who are a threat to not only to Chris but anyone else in Chris' situation, I say we flood search engines on every platform we can about the evils these psychopaths are capable of and we make sure there is not a rock they can hide under that we haven't doxed down to the smallest detail so they can never dream of doing this again without notice until they rot for their crimes in a cell.

Given a lot of us are angry and have a lot of autism we'd like to weaponize in outrage at what has happened, these are the best things we can do about this if we aren't in a direct position to help Chris.
 
Didn't see if this was mentioned anywhere
https://steamcommunity.com/id/FukaFukaindamorning/screenshots
He makes garrys mod "comics" that could never compete with Christine's
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1405708922 https://archive.is/obH49

Anime girls with :deagle:'s shooting Islamic terrorists? Is this a deagle nation comic but made by someone whose actually real? :jacefedora:
 
If Chris can be manipulated into punching his own elderly mother (i dont care if barb isn't "as bad" as she seems on video or not), if he can be manipulated to punch himself in the face until he is crying and snots dripping everywhere, then I fail to see how he does not qualify to be involuntarily committed. He is a threat to himself and others. Plain and simple.
It's really hard with Chris, all he really needs is someone in his life to keep him right (The mythical and unachievable replacement mom/wife), he's not particularly a danger to himself or others unless put under duress, which is a trait of autism (meltdowns), I don't know if any therapist has discussed with him management of those which might help but realistically a meltdown is only likely to result in something minor like his recent hedgehog position at a convention or maybe yelling at a staff member (Although he does have a bat which like the pepper spray is asking for trouble) and he's also not entirely unable to cope since he's been looking after himself and his mom for a while now he just has trouble telling reality from fiction.

Being committed is pretty expensive from what I can gather and they don't want to do it unless it's completely necessary (As in it's VERY likely they are going to injure themselves or others), I don't really know the solution but as things are I imagine the government would rather just turn a blind eye to Chris as he's not an emergency case and they don't want to spend money they don't need to.
 
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Talking to yourself leads to insanity, Michael.
For a second I thought it wasn't Mike because this guys grammar takes a nosedive in comparison to his, but then I remembered he's too fucking stupid to realise you can have spaces in your twitter username (HE_ALWAYS_DOES_THIS_FOR_SOME_REASON), so mystery closed on that one
 
Chris does not use the internet primarily as a social outlet. Chris originally left the internet because he recognized it was a waste of time. Nowadays, it's primary an economic opportunity for him.

Chris can better his life with the money he makes from the internet. "Better" is what Chris wants it to be. As long as he's not starving to death, it's his life to do with what he pleases.
That's what null's doing.

Chris needs a business manager. But as long as he's got one, then he can do just fine online.

Chris has genuine friends with common interests.

I don't think people will really accept that Chris has friends because he's so much older than his friends. OR they'd probably accept it if the person was severely mentally disabled, below Chris' level of functioning.

I think, whether they acknowledge it or not, that colors their impression of the situation.

For example, if they weren't shitheads trying to exploit and torment Chris, I think Joshua Wise and Stephen Boyd would make great friends for Chris. They have lots of interests in common. They're autistic as shit.

Chris has friends like that IRL. A bit better functioning, but they exist.

I think it's really just the age gap that will keep people from admitting Chris has friends.
How big of an age gap? Like are they older teens - 20s?

It'd be pretty weird if Chris is hanging out with 15 year olds but I've seen people in their 30's hang out with like 18 - 20's before, especially in my college days where you get mature students starting classes with people just out of highschool.
 
If Chris can be manipulated into punching his own elderly mother (i dont care if barb isn't "as bad" as she seems on video or not), if he can be manipulated to punch himself in the face until he is crying and snots dripping everywhere, then I fail to see how he does not qualify to be involuntarily committed. He is a threat to himself and others. Plain and simple.
Yes, when you say Barb, Bob, and countless others have tried to help Chris, Marvin always counters with: "But they were incompetent; we can help him". LOL, no, Chris is life is like a bunch of free radicals being injected into someone's body. Eventually, you're going to get old and tired because he stole all of your electrons. What else will Chris do when he's coerced into doing something terrifying?

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Talking to yourself leads to insanity, Michael.
Hirtes isn't relevant to this thread, he has his own.

It's really hard with Chris, all he really needs is someone in his life to keep him right (The mythical and unachievable replacement mom/wife), he's not particularly a danger to himself or others unless put under duress, which is a trait of autism (meltdowns), I don't know if any therapist has discussed with him management of those which might help but realistically a meltdown is only likely to result in something minor like his recent hedgehog position at a convention or maybe yelling at a staff member (Although he does have a bat which like the pepper spray is asking for trouble) and he's also not entirely unable to cope since he's been looking after himself and his mom for a while now he just has trouble telling reality from fiction.
Yeah, he did a really great job of punching the old hag in the gullet; even if it might have been wrestler style, you're incompetent for forcing your hairbrained schemes onto an elderly woman. I think Yawning's point along with a lot of other valid points is that you can't shield Chris from everything. Eventually, something is going to get in and make it so that he's more vulnerable to manipulation. He's a wild card... when he's silent, he's silent, but when he's insane, things escalate way too quickly. Null and others are doing what Bob and Barb used to do, which is run interference. Remember when Barb told Chris about that sign? She had to practically harass him to get rid of it. Now it's on eBay, but that's not the point. The point is, Chris will always come to resent what he views as authority. Authority to Chris is probably anyone that tries to push him in the right direction or contradicts his stupid ideas. Most ideas from Chris, except for his merchandising schemes are stupid ideas. Rocky is not incompetent by not taking a tard to file a police report, she's tired because she knows it will happen again and again.

@AnOminous or other kiwi legal experts: If Null successfully got law enforcement involved, would there be a risk of the blackmail material (specifically Chris hitting his mother) leading to criminal charges against Chris?

This whole situation is so fucked.
Maybe, but the bigger implications are that Chris will most likely lose Barb.
 
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Didn't see if this was mentioned anywhere
https://steamcommunity.com/id/FukaFukaindamorning/screenshots
He makes garrys mod "comics" that could never compete with Christine's
Wow, it's like Chris levels of :autism: but with none of the fun and all of the cringe.

Im sure he spent a ton of hours alone in his room making that subnormal weeb mess.

And then wanked to it.

I'd say he deserves to take Chris place and be monitored, tricked, and laughed at by trolls until he croaks, but there is nothing remotely interesting or funny about this waste of space.
 
Yeah, he did a really great job of punching the old hag in the gullet; even if it might have been wrestler style, you're incompetent for forcing your hairbrained schemes onto an elderly woman. I think Yawning's point along with a lot of other valid points is that you can't shield Chris from everything. Eventually, something is going to get in and make it so that he's more vulnerable to manipulation. He's a wild card... when he's silent, he's silent, but when he's insane, things escalate way too quickly. Null and others are doing what Bob and Barb used to do, which is run interference. Remember when Barb told Chris about that sign? She had to practically harass him to get rid of it. Now it's on eBay, but that's not the point. The point is, Chris will always come to resent what he views as authority. Authority to Chris is probably anyone that tries to push him in the right direction or contradicts his stupid ideas. Most ideas from Chris, except for his merchandising schemes are stupid ideas. Rocky is not incompetent by not taking a tard to file a police report, she's tired because she knows it will happen again and again.
I agree Chris ideally would need someone stepping in but state resources are finite and he's likely a borderline case, it's like when he had to get a court mandated therapist, it went absolutely nowhere from what I can tell, if they thought Chris was a legitimate threat to himself or others I'd like to think they would have escalated things but they're probally a lot of people in far greater need of being in a home than him.

The problem is Chris is a infamous internet celebrity, but unlike real celebrities he's not not rich enough to hire a minder and in mainstream society nobody knows who he is or how deep his regular harassment goes.
 
How big of an age gap? Like are they older teens - 20s?

It'd be pretty weird if Chris is hanging out with 15 year olds but I've seen people in their 30's hang out with like 18 - 20's before, especially in my college days where you get mature students starting classes with people just out of highschool.
I think a few late teens (18+), but scattered across 20's.
Yes, when you say Barb, Bob, and countless others have tried to help Chris, Marvin always counters with: "But they were incompetent; we can help him".
Please stop saying shit like this. I carefully explain why other people have failed and what we're doing different. I also explain what Chris' chances are and I never claim they're 100%. My phrasing is deliberate.

If you've got a specific claim of mine you want to refute, quote it directly please.
 
@AnOminous or other kiwi legal experts: If Null successfully got law enforcement involved, would there be a risk of the blackmail material (specifically Chris hitting his mother) leading to criminal charges against Chris?

This whole situation is so fucked.

I don't know, but yes possibly, if he really is punching Barb. I seriously doubt she'd cooperate with any prosecution. In the absence of any reason to think he decked her and broke her jaw or some shit, I would think he'd do something she wouldn't even consider an assault. Because he's Chris.
 
I don't know if his strange beliefs classify as true delusions though - I guess that's where I'm coming from.
They are delusions in a sense (magical thought is a delusion), but I think maybe in this circumstance they could be related to a cycle of circumstances - his autism, his isolation, the world he's built himself as a coping mechanism.

There's been clinically found to be overlap between Autism spectrum + schizophernia - there have been limited studies on it and it hasn't been agreed upon, but it has a lot to do with where does "magical thinking" end and true psychosis/true delusions begin. Even in that, the magical thinking overlap even includes belief that it's not fantasy, due to isolation issues in people with ASD. I guess that's where I'm coming from on this. Even regular people who are just very easily lead, are lead into beliefs of magical thinking where they truly believe in the magical thoughts (look at some religious people etc). And they aren't facing what Chris is. I'd link to some studies, but they're all PDFs, but they're easy to find if one is interested.
I don't have studies, but I have a wikipedia article going over the "magical thinking" stuff you're talking about, and how some people develop a tendency to do it as a regular thing:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_prone_personality
A fantasy prone person is reported to spend a large portion of their time fantasizing, have vividly intense fantasies, have paranormal experiences, and have intense religious experiences.[5] People with FPP are reported to spend over half of their time awake fantasizing or daydreaming and will often confuse or mix their fantasies with their real memories. They also report out-of-body experiences.[5]

A paracosm is an extremely detailed and structured fantasy world often created by extreme or compulsive fantasizers.[6]
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Fantasizers have had a large exposure to fantasy during early childhood.[1][7] This over-exposure to childhood fantasy has at least three important causes:
(3) Exposure to severe loneliness and isolation, such that fantasizing provides a coping or escape mechanism from the boredom.
IME, it's very common with higher-functioning autistics.
 
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