Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd The Chris-Chan Extortionists - and the End of Evangelion

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Alright I had to make an account for this latest round of BS, so:

Petition to rename this thread hypocritc fag general.

What is all this shit about old guard and new trolling. Like this guy G**h, Just casually throwing out stuff like: “yeah, there was a lot of trolling but Chris had his shit made, a roof over his head, TWO WhOLE parents, this guy was living like a king''… conveniently ignoring that the old guard was the one who fucked this guy’s shit up. The effects may not have been fully visible but the seeds were definitely sown. Or do you think idea guy would have the same results with a fresh Chris? Now these guys have the gall to just say:” yeah man, we just wanna sit back and watch the show and pretend we weren’t the ones who fucked this guy up, but we’ve got these young whipper snappers who don’t follow our moral code.” The moral code stuff is fucking BS and a post factum justification, an arbitrary line was drawn as if the two phases had no connection to each other. And while I can agree that the extortion and stealing money part is probably in a new stratosphere, imagine if this pussified version of KF had existed in the old days, they would’ve doxed liquid chris because he was tormenting the pet tard. A perverse effect might be that the easy to spot trolls that just wanted to get a rise out of Chris get blocked, opening up more of his free time to the most devious of trolls as idea guy showed. The half an hour daily spent on managing chris isn’t going to keep out smart trolls.

Now autismos on here are convinced that Null did more good for him in a couple of months than barb and bob did their entire life, which is patently insane. This shows none of you have ever dealt with something like this and are even ignoring null himself when he says it’s like talking to a brick wall. That’s a character issue, which has little to do with nurture, it’s nature. Even the psych evals concluded that he was off, but not too off. Mental health professionals think that all in all, he turned out ok for him. But no, barb and bob are fucking useless because they couldn’t prepare a retard who plays active defense against coaching and common sense for people like idea guy. 45 pages filled with external attribution of chris’s failures.. which brings me to:

This forum is some kind of reverse Stockholm syndrome echo chamber. I’ve followed Chris since the beginning, but not intensely, reading up on him now and then, sometimes reading the wiki and getting lost akin to going down a youtube rabbithole. But this forum is INVESTED. A page that started two days ago already has 45 pages, they’re mostly comprised of obnoxious bloviating, self-congratulations and edgelord power fantasies, but still 45 pages. Meanwhile certain people are pulling ad revenue etc.. making money off of this guy, all the while patting themselves on the back because they didn’t make him shit on the floor. Not to mention the exposure factor, like saying: yeah we own a website where you can post child molestation stories, but hey we’re not diddling kids”.

Case in point: yeah wise and boyd are fucked, but how can you claim they're more autismo cringe than Chris, like the last 10 years didn't happen. Someone outside of KF isn't going to agree here.

I mean yeah bad shit happened recently, but you take a step outside, you’ll see that a lot worse happens on a daily basis to much better people than chris.

Finnally: as for Chris’s situation: I don’t know about the forum, the add revenue and the wealth of its posters, but with his monthly tugboat and a little help, you could put him up in a cheap 1 bedroom studio, have him actually work on the things that get him revenue for some reason like the medallions and figurines, maybe do some youtube/twitch videos for supplemental income. That is, if you want to continue on this path of admonishing these new trolls without a moral code while profiting off of it. If you want real change, maybe stop coddling him, get him to take regular showers, not look like a hobo and get a job. Yes he’s a retard, but so are 90% of people flipping burgers at mcdonalds. Get him a name change IRL, get him to keep quiet about his work. Of course this is not going to work, because in the end, everything comes down to Chris. HIS character issues, HIS flaws, not his autism, the trolls, alogs or whatever terms you have coined and you don't want to put in the work necessary to improve him, so you'll dump him in a group home.

Now this is all without animosity, I could care less about what you do about Chris and I have no intention of interacting with Chris, there are people a lot more worthy of someone's time, but just knock off the fucking hypocrisy.

EDIT i forgot one thing, the opening sentence is a platitude, i have no problem with reporting these guys to the authorities, it's just the general attitude of the forum that's fucked.
 
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yes? i just hate hypocrisy. this is like the SJW mindset about movies. Screaming for diversity and demanding you turn thor black then turning around and attacking scarlet johanson for daring to play the lead in ghost in the shell. I'm fine either way as long as it is applied equally.

And don't worry, i won't be participating on this forum anymore when people stop replying to my post.
 
yes? i just hate hypocrisy. this is like the SJW mindset about movies. Screaming for diversity and demanding you turn thor black then turning around and attacking scarlet johanson for daring to play the lead in ghost in the shell. I'm fine either way as long as it is applied equally.

And don't worry, i won't be participating on this forum anymore when people stop replying to my post.
【lol calm down】
 
yes? i just hate hypocrisy. this is like the SJW mindset about movies. Screaming for diversity and demanding you turn thor black then turning around and attacking scarlet johanson for daring to play the lead in ghost in the shell. I'm fine either way as long as it is applied equally.

And don't worry, i won't be participating on this forum anymore when people stop replying to my post.
Nigga, you hate hypocrisy? You used the term "obnoxious bloviating" in a ten paragraph post..
 
yes? i just hate hypocrisy. this is like the SJW mindset about movies. Screaming for diversity and demanding you turn thor black then turning around and attacking scarlet johanson for daring to play the lead in ghost in the shell. I'm fine either way as long as it is applied equally.

And don't worry, i won't be participating on this forum anymore when people stop replying to my post.

Things that make you go hmm.

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alright, i'll bite. where in my post did i infer that you guys are a bunch of alt right gamergate fascists? if anything i'm attacking the fact that Chris is being coddled and absolved of personal responsibility, the MO of the extreme left. ''if you're anything other than a white heterosexual male, you better run serpentine to the mailbox, because you're gonna get shot. and don't even think about applying for a job because brad's dad who works at JPM will get him the job, you have no shot.'' This is insanely harmful because why would people try if they can't change anything about their situation?

now can you stop replying, i'd like to get off this train.
 
now can you stop replying, i'd like to get off this train.
You can leave any time you'd like, but in general people like you don't leave and they didn't really just appear out of nowhere either. You'll be around for a long time.

There is irony in that the site is defending Chris, not hypocrisy. We've had a pretty consistent line regarding not fucking with him because it hasn't been funny since Bob died. I didn't start getting involved with Chris until after Bob had died, as with most users here. No one you're talking to has at any point been a witness to a 'trolling saga' before Wise and Boyd. It'd be pretty hypocritical for Marvin to say fucking with Chris is wrong, but I don't think that's his line. He doesn't really care about Chris or what happens to him but thinks Wise and Boyd are egregious enough offenders to warrant fucking to death.

People hated Bluespike when he did what he did. No one has ever stolen money from Chris before. I don't think any of the old 'sagas' would be able to happen today, and if they did they'd probably be widely hated.

The tone of the Internet has changed. We all got old. I started hosting the CWCki Forums when I was 19 and I'm turning 26 this year. Trying to say, "this malicious shit that happened 9 years ago is basically the same as telling Chris to hurt himself today" doesn't really work. Even if we were the same group of people (which is definitely not the case), we wouldn't really be the same people because we've all grown up.

I'm sorry. The Encyclopedia Dramatica era of trolling doesn't exist anymore. The Internet isn't the wild west. The police know how to go online now. Goading people into suicide has consequences. No one wants to see an autistic man shit on the floor. Nobody finds it funny, and I wouldn't want to associate with people who do.

I hope that helps.
 
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well i did make a promise that i'd back off if people stopped replying and i will keep it.

the hypocrisy is not in defending chris, but in admonishing the trolls yet profiting off of it, like posting the cryzel chat logs like a large percentage of lurkers aren't enjoying seeing him beg. the stuff about old and new guard i got based off of a post by geth about 30 pages back, so it's not baseless in my opinion.

I also said the wise thing was in a new stratosphere and i'm not advocating for more of it, but it can'be viewed in a vacuum. it's just a continuation of what happened before. to then look at the old stuff with rose coloured glasses is hypocritical.

and there is a simple solution for this. from the chat logs with the idea group it's painfully obvious that Chris is a somewhat willing participant because he's isolated and wants human contact. Try to make him get a job, eithjer normal low skill job or in some supervised workplace for mentally disabled, they probably exist in US as well. A man needs a routine, a job, a sense of worth outside fucking sonic, toys and empty materialism, no matter how autismo you are.
 
lel i'm not even from the US so fuck off and how can you miss the point so badly that this is all considered as defending idea group is fucking mind boggling or trolling.

EDIT: you also have to be an insane retard to think that stephen's mom is somehow so deep in the lore as well that she'd pick a julay/kimmy mashup as her nickname.
 
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lel i'm not even from the US so fuck off and how can you miss the point so badly that this is all considered as defending idea group is fucking mind boggling or trolling.

And I'm Johnny Marr.

Look how easy it is to claim shit.

You're in on this somehow. It's the only explanation for why you're defending this shit.
 
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