Disaster The Democratic Party is bleeding millennial support. - Milliennials finally figure out "muh Nazis" won't get them jobs.

MANCHESTER, N.H. (Reuters) - Enthusiasm for the Democratic Party is waning among millennials as its candidates head into the crucial midterm congressional elections, according to the Reuters/Ipsos national opinion poll.

The online survey of more than 16,000 registered voters ages 18 to 34 shows their support for Democrats over Republicans for Congress slipped by about 9 percentage points over the past two years, to 46 percent overall. And they increasingly say the Republican Party is a better steward of the economy.

Although nearly two of three young voters polled said they do not like Republican President Donald Trump, their distaste for him does not necessarily extend to all Republicans or translate directly into votes for Democratic congressional candidates.

That presents a potential problem for Democrats who have come to count on millennials as a core constituency - and will need all the loyalty they can get to achieve a net gain of 23 seats to capture control of the U.S. House of Representatives in November.

Young voters represent an opportunity and a risk for both parties, said Donald Green, a political science professor at Columbia University in New York City.

“They’re not as wedded to one party,” Green said. “They’re easier to convince than, say, your 50- or 60-year-olds who don’t really change their minds very often.”

Terry Hood, 34, an African-American who works at a Dollar General store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and took this year’s poll, said he voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election.

But he will consider a Republican for Congress because he believes the party is making it easier to find jobs and he applauds the recent Republican-led tax cut.

“It sounds strange to me to say this about the Republicans, but they’re helping with even the small things,” Hood said in a phone interview. “They’re taking less taxes out of my paycheck. I notice that.”

The Reuters/Ipsos poll surveyed young voters during the first three months of this year and the same period in 2016.

Only 28 percent of those polled expressed overt support for Republicans in the 2018 poll - about the same percentage as two years earlier.

But that does not mean the rest will turn out to back Democrats, the survey showed. A growing share of voters between ages 18 and 34 years old said they were undecided, would support a third-party candidate or not vote at all.

The shift away from Democrats was more pronounced among white millennials - who accounted for two-thirds of all votes cast in that age group in 2016.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-millennials-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1I10YH
 
The biggest problem the Democratic party has had for quite some time is that they don't really stand for anything so much as they stand against the excesses of the Republican party. This is probably a passable strategy when times are good, but in a time when living standards are becoming increasingly precarious, and when popular support for the political process is at an all-time low, you've got to offer people something better, not merely lament that the alternative is worse.

Another (and perhaps related) problem facing the party is the fact that it's more populist wing seems to now be dominated by discussions of identity politics and inane calls for social justice, which not only alienates vast swathes of the electorate (and understandably so), but it also acts as a barrier against a more serious movement from forming within the party which could genuinely reinvigorate it as a worthy opposition.
 
The left spent years on the offensive, telling other people why they're stupid, going after low hanging fruit and religious nutjobs. They have no idea what to do now that they're on the defensive and everyone's pointing fingers at them asking "how the fuck are you any better?"
 
If anything, Millennial's and Gen Z are most likely going to lead the backlash. There is a cozy echo sphere the Boomer and Gen X generations live in, having missed the double catastrophes of the 2008 economic collapse and almost 20 years of low grade warfare.

Two of the nicest guys I know are millennials. One is a hard-working guy at my job who puts in long hours, same as me, trying his darnedest to raise two daughters, he saved and scraped together his savings to buy a not-great-but-fixable house for his family to live in and he's there for every one of his girls' school plays or soccer games, no questions asked But because he drives a pickup and voted for Trump, he's Satan as far as the left is concerned and can fuck right off.

The other is an usher at the local ballpark, jovial, friendly, gregarious even, the kind of guy you'd have drinks with without even knowing his name. Except under the sleeves of his work shirt, where you can't see them, are the USMC tattoos and a scar or two he got from a tour in Afghanistan that he does NOT wish to talk about.... and because he's a member of America's naked imperialism and racist global empire, as far as the left is concerned, he's Satan and can fuck right off.

Be it at home or abroad, a LOT of millennials saw some hard times and experienced some tough shit, they faced bills they seemingly coulnd't pay and situations they seemingly couldn't get out of alive. And when the trust-fund snowflakes try and lecture them on how black representation in comic books is more important than decent jobs to feed their kids, or how Kaitlin Jenner is in more danger from transphobes than they were from enemy mortar fire.... it takes all they've got to NOT start cracking heads.

And that resentment will seethe, quietly, until unleashed at the ballot box. The Dems had better learn this sooner, rather than later.
 
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The left spent years on the offensive, telling other people why they're stupid, going after low hanging fruit and religious nutjobs. They have no idea what to do now that they're on the defensive and everyone's pointing fingers at them asking "how the fuck are you any better?"

This would require a level of self awareness that I think they lack. Anyone who disagrees with the Democratic party is clearly uneducated/racist in their minds. They aren't on the defensive at all, and they should be. Political headwinds are starting to blow in really dangerous directions, and that is when the opposition party needs to be on its game. But they are not. The idiots looked at their defeat in 2016, and have somehow managed to convince themselves that they actually WON. But for the evils of a complex electoral system they would be in charge. Never mind the fact that even had Hillary won, she would be dealing with a Republican run congress.

At every turn they have abrogated their responsibility to have a coherent vision and effective organization throughout the country. They have surrendered fully 3/4ths of the country to the Republicans by writ of not even bothering to show up. Which is why they are starting to panic about a Constitutional Convention, because this boneheaded strategy of ignoring every state but the Northeast and west coast has put the Republicans within shouting distance of being able to rewrite the Federal constitution. The only thing stopping them right now is resistance from conservative states themselves like Idaho.

And to just add to how lacking in selfawareness these people are, some Democrats are trying to convince Hawaii to sign on to an Article V convention so they can overturn citizens united and fix the second amendment. Since Maryland passed a similar measure last month, this could be big. If Hawaii signs on, only one more State would be required to approve an Article V convention and the Chief Archivist of the United States will declare Article V invoked.
 
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This. A hundred thousand times this! One of the main reason so many of these fucking leeches are so out of touch is because they settle down into a congretional or senatorial seat early and spend their whole fucking lives in it. They don't know how normal people live because they never were a normal fucking person! We need term limits. With any luck it might force out a class of career politicians and bring in a wave of people who have actually done something with their fucking lives that wanna act as representatives.

I'd literally vote for any politician that enacted congressional term limits.

I sympathize with the sentiment, but look at California's Congress to see that term limits are a terrible solution to the problem of entrenched, out of touch congressmen. It makes legislation even MORE myopic and short-term focused than it already was, with politicians focusing less on winning reelection, instead of trying focus on setting themselves up once they're out of office. Because the entirety of Congress is swapped out periodically, you lose the long-term, deep institutional understanding of legislation among representatives, which means that the people with the most in-depth knowledge of the legislative process are the lobbyists.

This article has an overview of the myriad issues with limiting how long someone can be in Congress and how it really doesn't fix the issues it's trying to solve.
 
So now literally only the lobbying industry comprised of former government workers now shilling for large corporations will have any government experience?

Great plan. Won't result in a corporate kleptocracy at all.
 
So now literally only the lobbying industry comprised of former government workers now shilling for large corporations will have any government experience?

Great plan. Won't result in a corporate kleptocracy at all.
The kleptocracy the nation experienced prior to legislation that made it virtually impossible to fire government workers was preferable to the current situation. Because it was 100% transparent. You knew damn well who was whose crony. Now it's hidden under layer after layer of unaccountable appointments that run things unobserved for decades while Rs and Ds trade the white house and pretend they're changing the world every time.

Actually fuck it, let's go full Athens. Make every major bureaucratic position either directly elected or assigned by random lot.
 
I was gonna make a joke about going full Athens and ineffectually getting involved in foreign conflicts with Persians but we're planning to do that anyway.
Athens was pretty effective against the Persians actually. I mean, they got all of Ionia pretty much in the Delian League and Persia didn't manage to do crap about it. Sparta's victory in the Peloponnesian war and the legacy of Plato, Aristotle, and Thucydides blaming it all on democracy held back western civilization for millennia.
 
Athens was pretty effective against the Persians actually. I mean, they got all of Ionia pretty much in the Delian League and Persia didn't manage to do crap about it. Sparta's victory in the Peloponnesian war and the legacy of Plato, Aristotle, and Thucydides blaming it all on democracy held back western civilization for millennia.
Ah, I see, you missed the reference. You don't know about the greatest example of a democracy getting hoodwinked by a great salespitch, the whole political apparatus was barely a few decades old at the time even! I'm talking of the Ionian Revolt. In short, none of that stuff you mentioned probably would have happened if the Athenians didn't get sold a load of crap, send a few boats of men to the persians to get defeated, and get on the Persian shitlist.

Also, hard to say the Persians didn't win out in a way in the end by funding the constant inter-greek wars after the invasion failed. Really set things up for Phillip II and the Macedonians to ride on in.
 
I'd forgotten all about that one.

I don't think I'd really characterize the rise of Macedon as a win for the Achaemenids though.
 
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Ah, I see, you missed the reference. You don't know about the greatest example of a democracy getting hoodwinked by a great salespitch, the whole political apparatus was barely a few decades old at the time even! I'm talking of the Ionian Revolt. In short, none of that stuff you mentioned probably would have happened if the Athenians didn't get sold a load of crap, send a few boats of men to the persians to get defeated, and get on the Persian shitlist.

Also, hard to say the Persians didn't win out in a way in the end by funding the constant inter-greek wars after the invasion failed. Really set things up for Phillip II and the Macedonians to ride on in.

The Spartans saving everyone's ass in the aftermath of the Persians invading after the Ionian Revolt is especially ironic since the same Ionian Greek who sold said load of crap to the Athenians tried the same shtick on the Spartan king before that, until he let it slip that it was a 3 month journey to even get an army to the Persian capital and win a prospective war, so the king told him to take a hike.

I'd forgotten all about that one.

I don't think I'd really characterize the rise of Macedon as a win for the Achaemenids though.

In another case of historical irony, it was Alexander I submitting to the Achaemenids that pushed Macedonians from being more of a loosely affiliated tribe like the Thracians into forming more of a formal nation-state and building up that army that would let his descendant run roughshod over them 150 years later.
 
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