The difference between a consoomer and a fan - and what's the difference between collections and a shrine

Where is the line drawn for you?


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I want to make this thread so to separate the discussion of the philosophy of consooming and the posting of consooming examples.
Attempts have been made in the past but the problem keeps coming back up.
I will admit I worsened the problem.

The problem with consoomers is that it is a very slippery slope. The consoomer thread has a variety of varying opinions on what it is.

To me, a consoomer is someone who does indeed treat a brand or IP as a religion, cannot control their emotions, gets hyper emotional, fills their house with stuff from only that brand and has their entire self-worth tied to the IP they invest in. They have one hobby and nothing else. That is what most agree is a consoomer.

Where I diverge as many on the site do is how far this goes.
Enjoying Star Wars or whatnot is not necessarily bad. Those have a general audience of all ages. Times change and opinions change.
Quoting stuff from movies is fine if kept in moderation. I think you can talk about the philosophy of a certain movie too in moderation.
(If Aristotle had no problem with this then I don't either tbh)

Now when it comes to toys and merch, they are primarily targeted towards kids, more than movies or games.
To me, a brand shrine is something that clearly stands out, it sticks out like a sore thumb
An entire room filled with toys and merch for kids goes too far. Though that depends on how much of it is in the room. The odd item or whatnot isn’t going to stick out. If you have a balance of stuff its better.

A fan will own some stuff, support a team/follow a franchise and be invested but a consoomer takes it too far. It’s all they know and all they obsess over. You know a consoomer when you see one.

So what is the difference to you?

When does someone tie their entire self worth or identity on something?

Be sure to show examples and pictures to better explain your stance.
 
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A regular fan will simply enjoy a movie franchise, while a consoomer will buy lots of merchandise and quote scenes from said movie franchise in place of having an actual personality. To quote Roger Ebert:

“A lot of fans are basically fans of fandom itself. It's all about them. They have mastered the Star Wars or Star Trek universes or whatever, but their objects of veneration are useful mainly as a backdrop to their own devotion. Anyone who would camp out in a tent on the sidewalk for weeks in order to be first in line for a movie is more into camping on the sidewalk than movies. Extreme fandom may serve as a security blanket for the socially inept, who use its extreme structure as a substitute for social skills. If you are Luke Skywalker and she is Princess Leia, you already know what to say to each other, which is so much safer than having to ad lib it. Your fannish obsession is your beard. If you know absolutely all the trivia about your cubbyhole of pop culture, it saves you from having to know anything about anything else. That's why it's excruciatingly boring to talk to such people: They're always asking you questions they know the answer to.”
 
Examples of consoomer vs fans

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Fan tier. Slightly consoomery, but it is not overly excessive.
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Again, if anyone else has examples between consoomers and fans please post them.
 
A regular fan will simply enjoy a movie franchise, while a consoomer will buy lots of merchandise and quote scenes from said movie franchise in place of having an actual personality.
I think most people do quote movies, but I wouldn't call them consoomers.
Now if they get overly excited, quote literally everything to where you get annoyed by it and compare real things to movies non stop that's a problem.

Most people aren't consoomers, they will have consoomer tendencies because we are all somewhat consoomer.
We do the things consoomers do every now and then, but we stay mature and have stuff outside of one product/franchise.
 
I think most people do quote movies, but I wouldn't call them consoomers.
Now if they get overly excited, quote literally everything to where you get annoyed by it and compare real things to movies non stop that's a problem.

Most people aren't consoomers, they will have consoomer tendencies because we are all somewhat consoomer.
We do the things consoomers do every now and then, but we stay mature and have stuff outside of one product/franchise.
I'd say that consoomers are more of an archetype than anything else. If you say things like "Die Hard is a Christmas movie!", make jokes about narwhals and bacon, and like to make the YouTube thumbnail face in photographs, chances are you're a consoomer.
 
Consoomers are like gluttons. They don't savor the things they claim to enjoy, they just wolf down a product immediately without regard for taste or quality then purchase their next 'meal' asap. They could be eating the finest meal ever made or a large turd but as long as it has their favorite brand on it they won't question if what they are consuming is actually bad.
 
Are you buying something because you like it and genuinely want it, or are you buying something for the sake of buying?

That, IMO, separates a fan from a consoomer.

As far as toys go, they should be for kids to play with, not moulder in "mint condition" in some manchild's closet.
 
Nothing wrong with having a large collection of stuff if you actually like the franchise. Consoom is more you don't even care if your favorite series is being ruined you'll support it with your life instead of sticking to what you know was legitimately good about it and moving on.
 
I think a person can be both a fan and a consoomer at the same time. Otherwise, it feels like a "no true Scotsman" situation.
For example, I follow on Facebook a guy who posts photos of his huge Queen collection. He has everything about the band: records, cds, books, posters, figurines... He even met Brian May and Roger Taylor. The collection is great and I do believe he's a real fan, but at the same time he likes buying any shit the Queen brand sells. And most of those things are real crap, like the children's books.

So, I would say this man is a fan whose obsession turned him into a consoomer. I would kill to have his singing Freddie Mercury doll, tho.
 
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Youve contradicted yourself. Your poll has a line, yet you say it's not what you have but how you behave. Any of this options are okay as long as it doesnt become a religion as you said.

If I had fuck you money id fill up a whole wall of official and unoffial non fallout 76 merch. I love the series and have been there since the start. But I dont take offense because I dont think anyone involved are saints, even the ones who made classic fallout.

Though it is obvious that you do need to collect something to be a true consoomer.
Its like being a gun owner. Collect merch and behave responsibly.
 
In regards to the poll, I'm split on each of them.
For example if someone wanted to collect a collectors item from a franchise they like, and add it to a collection that is neat, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Our houses are usually filled with stuff we are interested in,.
But when it is one entire IP when your entire house, room, wall unit is filled with one IP that is consooming.

It's also down to the attitude of the individual themselves. If they own a few transformers toys or own one or two
Transformers shirts and are a functioning adult, I see no problem with that. They are an adult who I'd get along with.

If they have the mentality of a child and get overtly excited and constantly compare everything to their franchise (not just every now and then or as a joke or meme) then yeah they are a consoomer.

That said, I give special needs people a pass given they actually have a child like mentality and they can't do anything about that.
They have a reason. Consoomers don't
 
Personally, I consider the differentiation to be:
- A fan is able to thoroughly enjoy aspects of their hobby that aren't necessarily the newest or most popular ones -- It doesn't matter that a game you like is 15 years old and nobody else talks about it anymore, you still enjoy it. A consoomer sinks all their attention into what is currently in fashion, and when something's time passes, they no longer give it much thought.
- A fan is easily able to pass on new offerings in their hobby that they do not find appealing. A consoomer has a hard time doing this; They will nearly always watch the new movie, play the new game, or buy the new merchandise and do it all as soon as they possibly can, simply because it is there and part of their hobby.

There's a very distinct social element to consooming. It seems to be less about enjoying the hobby for what it is, and more about competing with and showing off to other consoomers. The more up-to-date you are, the greater lengths you go to in order to participate, and the more merchandise you have, the higher you social status is among other consoomers.
 
Another question added, when does someone tie their self worth to fictional media?
There was a thread on this about a year back but they never discussed when someone goes over the line.
 
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that doesnt work with sport.... you are born into it and its about community.


For other stuff, i think the difference is if you buy all crap or if you buy the cool stuff.
 
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