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Their engine isn't Gamebryo. Gamebryo became a thing way later. Their engine uses NetImmerse as a rendering framework (scene graph, object rendering), everything else is Bethesda
 
Super Hans v2 said:
As usual, I take the third position and say that instead of continuing to bolt shit to Gamebryo, or license a shitty mass market engine, instead make a new one from the ground up. Have it include all requirements for what the studio is famous for, but it won't all the technical debt for which it's infamous for.
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What would be the foundation of their "new" engine be though?
The three practices are either
1. License an already existing engine as
2. Itterate upon an already existing licensed engine
3. Make a new engine from scratch

The latter is less common than you think.
Source engine still has quirks from the original ID tech 2 engine.
REDengine was made by programmers who had spent years on the Aurora engine so there's a few legacy carryover
 
Does anyone know why they don't license CE (or whatever you want to call it), or are there simply no takers? I think it's apparent Bethesda has no idea what they're doing with it but you'd think at least someone would jump at the opportunity to use it.
 
Asian tech support said:
Does anyone know why they don't license CE (or whatever you want to call it), or are there simply no takers? I think it's apparent Bethesda has no idea what they're doing with it but you'd think at least someone would jump at the opportunity to use it.
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Yeah, it's called New Vegas, and Bethesda is constantly being told to this day that Obsidian outshone them using just 18 months of development
 
Übertroon said:
That would be the best option yes.
Having to license a new engine would likely kill the modding scene, which is one of the few remaining selling points for bethesda titles.

I would not focus on graphical improvements though.
Games haven't really improved that much the last decade to make it worth it.
They should focus on more longstanding problems related to AI, physics, and scope limitations.
I would bet that a new elder scrolls title with bigger cities and actual armies would sell better than a photorealistic elder scrolls game where you can see every pore on the face of an NPC
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Or about how actually adding tools to help modder, like a fucking built-in animation framework for once?
 
Preacher ✝ said:
Speaking of Micky D, he's embroiled in some drama right now with the lead developers of the big Star Wars mod for Starfield.

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StacticShock said:
oh so he embraced trannydom then, well, rip to him.
also you forgot to add the video response the modpack maker made to him:
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Welp, it's over. Micky D has fallen to the troon virus. I unsubbed yet youtube still showed me his most recent post.
It's officially over, he's already pulling the muh transphobia card and going on about acceptance and flexing his moral superiority. Jesus Christ.

God, why can't these fucking people just put the videos in the bag? You're the fucking funny irish guy who plays elder scrolls mods my dude. Nobody asked, nor cared about your gender or the LGBT or acceptance or whatever the fuck. People came to you to watch elder scrolls videos and that's fucking it. All you had to do was put the videos in the bag and not go full retard. Apparently it's the fucking hardest thing in the world because so many fail at it somehow.
It never fails to baffle me how these people get the idea in their head that their casual viewers give a single shit about their political beliefs when their channel's content had absolutely nothing to do with it beforehand.
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Bob Barbas said:
I unsubbed yet youtube still showed me his most recent post.
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this you?
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funny that there are people bashing him for turning tranny but he straight up ignore, can't be arsed or don't want to delete them posts i guess, some of the messages get replies from his guntguard though.
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also Deity has added some extra detail once micky's tranny friends started to attack him with the 'phobe even though he was mentioning the description of mickey's channel, which was then changed from lad to gal according to a imgur post by him (Archive)
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deity in the comments said that micky was sperging out with his tranny friends on X too regarding his dox but elon doesn't let me check it and nitter isn't working for me.
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StacticShock said:
this you?
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I unsubbed a few days ago. I also don't announce when I unsub because that's gay and I already know they won't give a shit anyway. As the examples you posted show they'll just go "Seeya heckin' bigot!" it's a waste of time. It means nothing to them. (:_(
 
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Welp, it's over. Micky D has fallen to the troon virus. I unsubbed yet youtube still showed me his most recent post.
It's officially over, he's already pulling the muh transphobia card and going on about acceptance and flexing his moral superiority. Jesus Christ.

God, why can't these fucking people just put the videos in the bag? You're the fucking funny irish guy who plays elder scrolls mods my dude. Nobody asked, nor cared about your gender or the LGBT or acceptance or whatever the fuck. People came to you to watch elder scrolls videos and that's fucking it. All you had to do was put the videos in the bag and not go full retard. Apparently it's the fucking hardest thing in the world because so many fail at it somehow.
It never fails to baffle me how these people get the idea in their head that their casual viewers give a single shit about their political beliefs when their channel's content had absolutely nothing to do with it beforehand.
:stress:
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What video did he take down? Also damn, he's a broke bum. I think you should keep that 130 dollars for yourself there, pal. Troonshine aint cheap.
 
Bob Barbas said:
It never fails to baffle me how these people get the idea in their head that their casual viewers give a single shit about their political beliefs when their channel's content had absolutely nothing to do with it beforehand.
:stress:
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I was actually going to make a post here about the situation, cause I didn't know really where else to post about him.

I don't know what his therapist talked him into, but ever since he's transition he been getting into more drama as of late and using his transition as a crutch now. It's funny too even with this drama, his star wars views aren't doing too great compared to the life cycle of his other videos.

On one hand I miss old Mickey in putting his video on in the background to learn about Bethesda mods, but on another hand since he transition he been engaging in more drama now which is also entertaining in some way and funny seeing him speedrun through all the standard things that occurs with a internet entertainer transition.
 
Fuck, Micky D's the second "up and coming" content creator whose videos I enjoyed who trooned out. This kiwi at the bottom describes how I feel.
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Does anyone else experience stuttering in OpenMorrowind 0.50.0 when typing in the console or save menu? Looked it up and couldn't find anything on it, going to try and older version.
 
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We're not going to use AI to vibe code Elder Scrolls. We're going to shit out a game and let the modders fix it like we always have.
 
Super Hans v2 said:
For fuck's sake. The game has been announced longer than it took to get that piddly teaser than it was from Skyrim to that, and all this time later the only bit of news is that they're using the engine held together with nothing but a fool's hope and cum.

Todd really needs to tell the trannies to shut the fuck up and deal with having to learning an engine not made in the 90s.
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Competency crisis in action. It's actually kind of amusing... even if Bethesda wanted to do better, they can't. But at the same time, they can't even do as good as they were:
  • They work for Microsoft, which was infested and taken over by Jeets. So all their new staff are going to be Jeets. All Non-Jeets are going to be blocked from promotions and raises. The few Non-Jeets will be offered Jeet wages -- or less than Jeet wages, because fucking over non-Jeets means good izzat.
  • They were already infested with DEI.
  • The above means they cannot hire for merit. No one in the past few years has been hired at Bethesda because they were actually good at their job. They were hired because they ticked checkboxes: gay, female, jeet, trans, antifa, etc -- and were good enough at their job. Maybe. This has likely been going on for the past 15 years in some capacity, but has likely reached a fever pitch in the past 5.
  • This means they've actually been bleeding actually employees for years, because a lot of people are just going to leave over time:
    • People fucked over on raises and promotions
    • Pepole having to work (and cover for) coworkers and bosses who were given free careers
    • People tired of having their wages suppressed by having to compete with the daycare or jeet hordes.
  • So anyone good at Bethesda either is sticking around cause they love TES/Fallout, or they left long ago. And every time someone left, they were replaced with a female or tranny or jeet who didn't earn the position and CANNOT DO THE WORK.
  • Custom engines require Tribal knowledge to use. That means all those people who leave are experts in Creation Engine that they cannot replace. Yes, people can be trained to use Creation Engine, but this takes time, practice, talent, and competence. Which they cannot hire for. But of note, you absolutely cannot train Jeets to do this.
So Bethesda needs really good people to learn a specialty system while actively developing product AND creating a new version of that system. That requires both elders working with them AND actually talented new hires. They've lost the former and can't get the latter.

There's a reason the entire industry moved to "standard" engines and it's not becuase they're good or efficient or what have you. They are not. Unity sucks dick. Unreal sucks double dick. But what those engines do allow is it allows them to turn developers into a commodity -- and a commodized workforce can be replaced with vibe coding jeets.

Jeets can't go onto Stackoverflow and search "how I iz posting creature in dungeon creation engine 2 saar" and get an answer. And ChatGPT won't tell you either. You can't hire a software engineer with Creation Engine experience. You CAN put out a job opening for someone with Unity and Unreal and get 100,000 replies from Poonjami and Pajeet and Rhamamdamambi about how they are very good code creator saaar, please to be doing the needful hiring saar I AM FOOKING INDIAN SAAR.

GTA6 has what, 2000 jeets shitting into LLMs trying to turn liquid jeetshit into code? And that's with an industry standard engine. Granted most of those 2000 are just faking it and embezzling money from Rockstar, but, yeah. Skyrim2 isn't going to be able to even get that far.

With the multiple slopbuster releases starting in 2025 I think we've hit the point where the wheels start falling off everything -- DEI, Jeets, LLMs, they're all luxury things that work when you still have a certain percentage of autistic white men doing the actual work. And they've been driven out of the industry, so there's no one left to do the work.

Should be a fantastically great time to be an indy devteam.
 
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