The Elder Scrolls

[30+GameOvers]

Morrowind is the best. The rest suck. I want a Morrowind remastered goddamit

No you don't, just look at how much they butchered Oblivion. If anything, it's up to the fans to properly do the job.

 

[StacticShock]

One of the least interesting discussions in gaming, RPG was casually used to describe a character-story driven game, often with levelling and class elements. FF7 is an RPG pillar despite Cloud being a distinct character with a path the player cant really dictate, OoT has even been called one of the greatest RPGs despite having no levelling system or builds or story choices.

Resident Evil despite having a story was first and foremost survival horror, the story was very lightweight in the originals. The "genre" really was just something to distinguish games with a heavy emphasis on that at a time when that was still rare or at least somewhat rare, a time that has passed and hence why almost anything can or cant be called one today.
Of course you always get anal assholes who just want to argue over a word that lost all meaning by the PS2 era lol.

you and @Deus Exica motherfuckers seem to be forgetting the best "be an asshole role" rpg that exists.
ALPHA PROTOCOL.

 

[The Ugly One]

Yes, thank you for putting it so succinctly. The standards for what someone considers an RPG are purely subjective, fags like to come in and now declare Elder Scrolls "Not REAL RPGs" because of an arbitrary list of rules and depth requirements that they pulled completely out of thin air.

People who argue over whether game is REALLY representative of a genre are usually just trying to cover up massive coping and seething over something they don't like being popular. Nobody argues that Soulbringer isn't really an RPG, because it was a shit game and nobody cares. By most of these "Skyrim isn't an RPG" arguments, Planescape: Torment isn't an RPG, but rpg nerds mostly love that one, so it gets a pass.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

"You can't make meaningful choices." My brother in Christ you can destroy at least half of the major factions, what more "major" do you want? You can permanently miss out on quests and rewards by killing whoever you feel like. You can assassinate the Emperor of Tamriel. The Civil War has you usurp and replace the Jarls of entire holds. What games are you playing that do any better than this?

To be fair Skyrim does have the case where you find out the Companions are werewolves, with some of them outright worshipping Hircine, and you're forced to either become one yourself, or just let the faction sit in your quest log.

 

[NPZCC]

To be fair Skyrim does have the case where you find out the Companions are werewolves, with some of them outright worshipping Hircine, and you're forced to either become one yourself, or just let the faction sit in your quest log.

You should be able to side with the Silver Hand and suplex all of the werewolves to death, missed opportunity for sure.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

No you don't, just look at how much they butchered Oblivion. If anything, it's up to the fans to properly do the job.

You are a seriously dumb faggot.

How can you claim they "butchered" the Oblivion remake when you already claimed the original was an overrated, mediocre piece of shit? And also you didn't even know the new Oblivion was out yet a few hours ago but you have already labeled it butchered?

And you should look up what the word mediocre means.

 

[BullfrogBill]

He might sound a bit chummy when he refers to you as friend in the opening, but that "as Emperor" tacked on doesn't mean what he asks of you is just a suggestion. Seems like your only concern is whether NPCs acknowledge you as someone special or not.

You're right, he's making you go to Daggerfall to complete his quest and make sure no one can blackmail him, he's the Emperor and he could kill you or have someone else kill you if you don't but this is a delicate matter for him since he wants this done off the books because his reputation is at stake, it's not a normal mission from the Emperor, there's so many implications you could comprehend depending on what perspective you go into it with. What if your character is an inmate or just recently been charged with a crime and this is the Emperor's way of telling you he will let it slide if you do him this important secretive favor in Daggerfall. Chances are you don't like this Emperor and just want freedom and now that you are in Daggerfall far away from the Emperor you can just ignore him and start a life of crime there, or change your ways and live a simple life, or you can actually do the quest for the Emperor. There's not anything in the game that says you are someone in specific, you are just some guy that the Emperor has met with in secret to do a mission for him off the books because it could hurt his reputation. Being the Dragonborn in Skyrim literally means you have the blood of the gods and are a divine being, there's not much room there to be anyone else other than a divine being who spends his days killing things in caves. There's nothing else for your character to do in the game.

 

[Anti Lolicon Bomb]

You should be able to side with the Silver Hand and suplex all of the werewolves to death, missed opportunity for sure.

weirder still that one of the most famous factions can be obliterated in the Dark Brotherhood alt. I wonder why they didn't give the option here too.

 

[BullfrogBill]

It's the same shit these retards say literally every time. Any answer as to what makes a True And Honest RPG will ever be anything other than someone just not liking how something is done.

• "You will always be the Dragonborn." In F:NV you are always the courier. In Witcher 3 you are always Geralt. In KOTOR 2 you are always a Jedi Knight. You're not forced to be the DB in any meaningful way. Nothing stops you from never doing the MSQ, in which case you might as well just be some random guy. Literally the only place off-limits to a non DB character is a couple of endgame dungeons and High Hrothgar.
• "There's no variance or alternate routes." At least three of the major quest lines have split routes, almost every single Daedric quest has alternate endings, there's the entire civil war. Blood on the Ice exists. Having 37 endings to every quest that account for meta-gaming sequence breaking isn't even something the best RPGs do. Even NV only has a handful of quests like this.
• "You can't make meaningful choices." My brother in Christ you can destroy at least half of the major factions, what more "major" do you want? You can permanently miss out on quests and rewards by killing whoever you feel like. You can assassinate the Emperor of Tamriel. The Civil War has you usurp and replace the Jarls of entire holds. What games are you playing that do any better than this?
• "There's no opportunity for roleplay." Try having an imagination instead of making the game do it for you, genuinely. It's called self-control.

I'm not even a Skyrim dickrider, it just drives me up a goddamn wall that people can be this purposefully obtuse because they're mad that Skyrim has a minimap or that they can't accidentally put the game in a failstate because they let a gnome kill a quest NPC or something.

The only other game you mentioned that I've seriously played is KOTOR and I 100% agree that it's a flawed RPG because you are forced to be Revan. Agreeing with me isn't really an own tbh.

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

You should be able to side with the Silver Hand and suplex all of the werewolves to death, missed opportunity for sure.

I agree, but on the same note, the companions shouldn't have involved werewolves AT ALL. They're basically viking fighters guild. What the fuck does werewolves have to do with fighter guild or vikings? Nothing, they just shoehorned it because they were too lazy to give the companions an actual quest

THE SILVER HAND should have been the werewolf faction. Do like dawnguard, you join the silverhand, you then have the choice to stick with them, or fuck off to the other side and join the werewolves.

 

[30+GameOvers]

You are a seriously dumb faggot.

How can you claim they "butchered" the Oblivion remake when you already claimed the original was an overrated, mediocre piece of shit? And also you didn't even know the new Oblivion was out yet a few yours ago but you have already labeled it butchered?

And you should look up what the word mediocre means.

You should re-read what you posted and then try again. I would make a comment about Bethesda fanboys and literacy, but it's clear you're foaming at the mouth and profusely bleeding from the anus at the thought of somebody making fun of your overrated, UE5 slopified piece of shit game so asking for any clarity is a waste of time.


You know what happens when you look up the word "Mediocre" in the dictionary? You get this

 

[NPZCC]

Being the Dragonborn in Skyrim literally means you have the blood of the gods and are a divine being, there's not much room there to be anyone else other than a divine being who spends his days killing things in caves.

Take away Dragonborn and what are you?

Playboy, philanthropist, husband, father, viking, vampire, suplexer, thane x10, listener, harbinger, archmage, guild master.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

That's true about Daggerfall.
You can basically softlock the main quest denying one of those.
But you can:

• Advancing in guilds.
• Buy houses.
• Buy ships.
• Dungeon delving.
• Doing some random ass radiant quest.

And so on.
Map is still big and open as fuck.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

You should re-read what you posted and then try again. I would make a comment about Bethesda fanboys and literacy, but it's clear you're foaming at the mouth and profusely bleeding from the anus at the thought of somebody making fun of your overrated, UE5 slopified piece of shit game so asking for any clarity is a waste of time.

Dumb faggot claims someone misunderstood him without elaborating (because he can't). Then proceeds to make multiple gay scatological references (because he's a tormented homo).

Many such cases.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

Dumb faggot claims someone misunderstood him without elaborating (because he can't). Then proceeds to make multiple gay scatological references (because he's a tormented homo).

Many such cases.

He's an underage shartynigger. That alone should tell you enough, despite almost counting as a tautology.

 

[msd]

Morrowind is the best. The rest suck. I want a Morrowind remastered goddamit

theyd have to rebuild it from the ground up, but considering the success of oblivion so far, maybe we'll get lucky and theyll hire some autists who'll do the work. But this is hopium on my part

 

[30+GameOvers]

Dumb faggot claims someone misunderstood him without elaborating (because he can't). Then proceeds to make multiple gay scatological references (because he's a tormented homo).

Many such cases.

You know, I think you might be even dumber and more easily triggered than my friend from the Starfield thread who followed my every post like a crazy stalker ex for the last two days.
Come to think of it, the only thing of value in this thread I've seen over the last two days were the technical posts about Open MW that I am very interested in. Last time I played Morrowind was on an XP machine years ago before it got big, so I am very eager to see how the community actually made technical strides this big. I was going to ask what the optimal mods/utilities to download these days are, but I think I will unironically have a better time asking on 4chan. TES threads there tend to have people who know what they're talking about, enjoy the game and know how it works. I won't find any help here, but I will continue to observe the ever evolving autism until the next big thing gets stickied. This thread, right now, only has butthurt Bethesda niggers and I doubt it's any better on a good day.

 

[Brap God]

Being the Dragonborn in Skyrim literally means you have the blood of the gods and are a divine being, there's not much room there to be anyone else other than a divine being who spends his days killing things in caves. There's nothing else for your character to do in the game.

Look, once again I just think you dislike when the protagonist is a more highkey important figure. Nothing we say will change the fact that every TES game has you as the central figure of a plot that's lore defining. They even came up with the retardation that is a "Dragon Break" to canonize all the endings of Daggerfall. My point is, none of the stories told are personal, you're just injected into the setting as a major player in one way or another, doesn't matter if your character has humble origins or is a special boy, slightly different variations of the same sandwich.

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

The only other game you mentioned that I've seriously played is KOTOR and I 100% agree that it's a flawed RPG because you are forced to be Revan. Agreeing with me isn't really an own tbh.

I'm not agreeing with you, if you don't think KOTOR is an rpg then you're actually retarded.

 

[StacticShock]

that every TES game has you as the central figure of a plot that's lore defining.

if you want to be a lowly semantical nigger, that applies to pretty much every single game ever made.
without the player the world has no action or independence on it's own, even sims 3 and sims 3 allows for the world to develop alot without your input but some of it still needs the player to kickstar some agency.