Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
This was Luna a year ago. I think a combination of hair loss, muscle loss, and worsening of intracranial pressure is making that part I pointed out more prominent.

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Her eye on that side appears to be bulging more now too.

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Atlas trying to mirror his father and initiating a hug with his baby brother...someone please get this absolutely adorable and otherwise normal kid some damn speech therapy, preferably yesterday, but TODAY will do.

I'm still hoping once he has some one to actually talk with (Entling), he will. Assuming she didn't fuck Entling's tongue he'll be able to properly mimic the tv and they'll be understandable enough. I'm figuring a JillRod situation with them - understandable to outsiders but ugh.
 
So these umm therapies.. what exactly are they supposed to do for Luna? Once more, Robyn acts like Luna is just another disabled child that in spite of her disability can still experience the world around her… She needs to be sat down and told Luna is a hopeless potato instead of having all these enablers helping perpetuate her delusions.
 
Robyn is joining a woo center that will bathe Luna in red light tanning beds and play music and seizure inducing visuals to help her instead of pesky regular medicine.
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Atlas still in diapers, but at least he's wearing actual clothes now...
Hi Lizard Woman!
Now you've fixed the pj's problem, could you get your kid some speech therapy and toilet training?
 
Talk of puberty blockers in the parents of trans children thread sent me down the rabbit hole. I read about the ashley treatment (hysterectomy removal of breast tissue )to stop precocious puberty. That made me think: GOD HELP ME I WONDER IF PRECOCIOUS PUBERTY WOULD HAPPEN TO LUNA? horrifying.
I doubt the parts of her brain responsible for initiating puberty still exist. It's not impossible, but given how much her head has grown and how she doesn't even seem to be seizing anymore, I don't think she's got enough brain to coordinate that.

Also, the Ashley treatment is a bit more than that. Her parents wanted her growth plates closed so she'd stop growing and they'd be able to continue caring for her at home. The mastectomy and hysterectomy were because mom's side is prone to issues with both and they were worried about sexual assault from caretakers once they're gone, removed her appendix too, since she couldn't tell them if she was in pain. It's a lot, really interesting rabbit hole for anyone interested in medical ethics because Ashley isn't 100% a potato, maybe a bit more than Paisley was? She reacts to her family, has likes and dislikes, and they clearly really love her, they did it all so she could be as much a part of the family as possible. It's fucked, but it's just easier to strap a paralyzed barely responsible 6 year old into the car than a 5'+ tall woman who probably would've ended up with her mother's massive breasts. As usual, the wiki and what it cites are a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Treatment

Edit: pl but fuck it. As the former owner of H cups, I absolutely agree with the mom on that one. They reach a point where having nice tits is lost to keeping them clean and dry and the skin underneath healthy. Everything just becomes more complicated when your boobs enter the room before you. And that's your own breasts. Knowing some underpaid stranger might be powdering under my helpless daughter's breasts? No.
 
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Talk of puberty blockers in the parents of trans children thread sent me down the rabbit hole. I read about the ashley treatment (hysterectomy removal of breast tissue )to stop precocious puberty. That made me think: GOD HELP ME I WONDER IF PRECOCIOUS PUBERTY WOULD HAPPEN TO LUNA? horrifying.
I seriously doubt Luna will ever experience puberty. My very basic understanding is that the brain stem triggers the pituitary gland to kick start puberty. (If I remember correctly.) Her pituitary gland is probably hopelessly destroyed. She doesn't even have the body of a toddler. Oakly at 10 months is starting to over take her growth wise.

My prediction is that Robyn will only homeschool Atlas a few months before she realizes A. It’s a lot of work B. It takes way from her MLMs C. Oakly and Luna require constant care. This is a good thing for Atlas anyway it goes down.

That bulge on her head that has grown significantly since last year: Do you all think her shunt has failed or is it that it can't keep up? If her shunt fails, how would we know?
 
Do you all think her shunt has failed or is it that it can't keep up? If her shunt fails, how would we know?
How would we know? Via Goblyn. But it doesn't matter, the shunt was never going to work because she doesn't have hydrocephalus, she has multicystic encephalomalacia. In hydrocephalus they can just tap into the normal brain anatomy, she doesn't have that, she has a series of expanding cysts. Idk if the shunt is the normal ventricular kind or if it's somehow placed in one cyst, but it can't drain all of them. It's why she had to doctor shop to get one to place it in the first place.
 
How would we know? Via Goblyn. But it doesn't matter, the shunt was never going to work because she doesn't have hydrocephalus, she has multicystic encephalomalacia. In hydrocephalus they can just tap into the normal brain anatomy, she doesn't have that, she has a series of expanding cysts. Idk if the shunt is the normal ventricular kind or if it's somehow placed in one cyst, but it can't drain all of them. It's why she had to doctor shop to get one to place it in the first place.
Yeah, I was hoping there was some kind of cardinal sign of shunt failure. Globyn is an unreliable reporter at best. It’s amazing to me how 2 self absorbed idiots met up and made offspring, then posted their lives on social media.
 
From the Ashley Treatment Wikipedia: eliminating menstrual cramps and bleeding

Could you imagine?! Periods are hell, even when you can effectuate your own care and comfort. Relying on someone else for that kind of personal care when you're miserable must be excruciating, even when you can vocalize your needs and discomfort. That's why I'm surprised Alex Dacy hasn't yeeted her uterus yet. I would be mortified if someone had to change my pads and shit. This was truly a humane, compassionate thing to do for Ashley.

My prediction is that Robyn will only homeschool Atlas a few months before she realizes A. It’s a lot of work B. It takes way from her MLMs C. Oakly and Luna require constant care. This is a good thing for Atlas anyway it goes down.

I agree that homeschooling will not last long but I question whether Robyn would be able to enroll the boys in any school - I doubt either of them have a birth certificate or social security number.
 
I’m pretty sure the bulge is on the side of her head without the shunt, so it’s working. Just can’t keep up with the amount of cyst juice shes producing. It looks like she filled out the huge crater she had when she first got the shunt so it has to go somewhere (why can’t it just kill her already)
 
I agree that homeschooling will not last long but I question whether Robyn would be able to enroll the boys in any school - I doubt either of them have a birth certificate or social security numnumbers
Robyn has their family signed up for hella Medicaid and EBT. Those kids have socials and birth certificates.

Or
Or vaccines
They definitely don't have these, but a lot of states have a religious vaccine exemption for public schools, which hippies abuse relentlessly. California had so many fucking anti vaccine hippies spreading measles and whopping cough via their brats that the state finally had to crack down entirely on this - no kid can attened public, private, or parochial school without vaccination at this point (the Jehovahs Witnesses have their own schools where they allow diseased children, but fuck them). But I don't think Nevada has a similar law.
 
I agree that homeschooling will not last long but I question whether Robyn would be able to enroll the boys in any school - I doubt either of them have a birth certificate or social security number
I think you’re giving her too much credit. She’s not a crazy but principled off grid homesteader. She doesn’t want to suffer any actual deprivation, just earn asspats online. If she got more engagement giving her kids conventional medicine and taking them to school, she’d convert right quick.
 
Stating the obvious, but Atlas is currently a terrible candidate for homeschool. He needs lots of exposure to other kids for his speech and for his overall social development. I'm always freaked out by how Robyn and the kids stay shut up in that house of sickness and pain. It's not healthy for any of them.

I do love (so much) to see Atlas interacting with Tree. He's even trying to teach him that game he likes with all the cushions piled on the couch, and it looked like he was playing a form of peekaboo. I hope Robyn isn't unkind to Atlas when he starts paying more attention to Tree than he does to Luna, but the poor child is obviously excited to have a sibling who responds to him. I also loved seeing him at the movie theater. He looked like he was completely absorbed in the movie, and I bet buttery movie theater popcorn was the best thing he's ever eaten.

Finally: Robyn is straight-up lying about the birthday thing. Atlas always gets shitty birthdays. I don't remember if it was last year or the year before, but he got a really sad-looking cake made with "healthy" substitutions (Luna got a fancy cake). She's never celebrated Atlas at all, but it's interesting to see that he's started to appear in her content a lot more. Luna must be in really bad shape if she's featuring the boys this much.
 
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