Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

Glenn has PTSD from watching his wife's birth canal slowly squeeze the life out of their daughter?
Or from watching the lumps on his daughter's head grow until they reached the size of a decorative summer squash?

 

[Oracular Slug]

My guess? Being told she was terminal. Which is sorta the least horrific thing here, but it's also a definitive singular event. I think they have to be at least somewhat in denial about the sheer size of her head, frogs and boiling pots and all that.

 

[GenociderSyo]

She has been told Luna is terminal since Luna was born. Doubt that would change her thinking the woo works as far as shes concerned since Luna outlived every deadline like the Hartley twins.

 

[Oracular Slug]

Oops, I meant to quote the person above me. I was taking a stab at the cause of Glenn's PTSD

 

[Evan]

For the first time I can ever remember, she left Luna to just sit with Glenn and the boys in the garage for a few minutes. Sure, doesn't look like they're saying much, but they don't have to. Sure, she looks depressed, but it's just a short video of a tired lady watching her sons and husband, she's not going to be sunshine and rainbow farts. But, she sought out Glenn in his space to just sit for a few minutes.

Is Robyn.... getting better?????

She's a narcissist who has clearly been seeing that there was a lot of speculation of marital problems between her and Glenn. I think the more reasonable explanation for this video is that Robyn went out there to make this video to show she and Glenn are together because she still doesn't want to post her own videos, but something is still not right. I don't think this is any evidence of her improving. She probably went straight back inside the moment she could slip away; it appears she has zero interest in being there organically.

She looks so depressed it's breaking my EMPATH heart.

My guess? Being told she was terminal. Which is sorta the least horrific thing here, but it's also a definitive singular event. I think they have to be at least somewhat in denial about the sheer size of her head, frogs and boiling pots and all that.

This does seem like the most likely catalyst for it. And while I don't actually empathize with him because he did this to himself and Luna and the boys, and he still defends unassisted homebirth, it is understandable how hearing "your child is going to die very soon, make arrangements now" would lead to PTSD.

 

[Ms. Marple]

Maybe I lack perception but to me Robyn doesn’t look depressed. She seems okay. Unremarkable as always. I wonder if her “cocooning” is an attention strategy before launching some new woo service or product. A while ago someone mentioned she’s been revamping her website. I checked and it does appear she has a brand new website that combines all of her “services” and mlm scams. There’s even a very long and elaborate about me section where she goes into great detail about Lunas journey and how she is now thriving thanks to woo. I guess we will have to wait and see how things unfold.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

She's a narcissist who has clearly been seeing that there was a lot of speculation of marital problems between her and Glenn. I think the more reasonable explanation for this video is that Robyn went out there to make this video to show she and Glenn are together because she still doesn't want to post her own videos, but something is still not right. I don't think this is any evidence of her improving. She probably went straight back inside the moment she could slip away; it appears she has zero interest in being there organically.

Would a narc of Robyn's caliber do something so subtle though? Like yeah, Robyn absolutely has done "Look at me, I'm so happy with my potato daughter and disengaged husband, look at us, we're all so HAPPY and THRIVING" posts to own the haters, that was 90% of her Luna posts, but this doesn't come off as some staged LOOK AT US thing, this just her picking lint off her slippers in the garage. Very diffrent vibes.

 

[blue gopher snakes]

I’m not a doctor but the few women I know in real life who are truly personality disordered will do the “cocoon” strategy from time to time, usually after a major embarrassment that they can’t spin. They’ll scrub their social media, disappear, and then in 9 months they’ll pop up again like everything is completely fine. No mention of where they were or what they’ve been up to. They don’t engage with anything that would possibly contradict their core belief that they are the sympathetic main character and that occasionally means disengaging from the wider world altogether.

 

[TractorGirl]

All of a sudden Glenn has PTSD, but the pair of idiots went on to have TWO MORE home births after knowing what they did to Luna, so fuck him. Sorry, no sympathy when they put the next two babies at risk. The one thing I can’t work out is if they are really both so fucking stupid, or both so arrogant? I know it’s both, but which is the dominant factor??

 

[BunchofMunch]

Would a narc of Robyn's caliber do something so subtle though? Like yeah, Robyn absolutely has done "Look at me, I'm so happy with my potato daughter and disengaged husband, look at us, we're all so HAPPY and THRIVING" posts to own the haters, that was 90% of her Luna posts, but this doesn't come off as some staged LOOK AT US thing, this just her picking lint off her slippers in the garage. Very diffrent vibes.

Well, just the placement of the camera, where Glenn's workout (that's supposed to be the focus of the video) is just barely in the picture so there's room to show all of Robyn doing jack shit, is suspicious to me. I might be wrong, sure, but if it actually is an attempt to show all the "haters" speculating about divorce, it's not at all subtle in my opinion.

 

[BoobWhiskers]

Forgive me if this has been discussed before and I've forgotten in the horrifying cyclical monotony of this thread, but what's going on here? Did Atlas wiggle while getting his head buzzed, or is this some sort of birthmark or something that we already knew (or didn't know) about?

 

[often puzzled]

Forgive me if this has been discussed before and I've forgotten in the horrifying cyclical monotony of this thread, but what's going on here? Did Atlas wiggle while getting his head buzzed, or is this some sort of birthmark or something that we already knew (or didn't know) about?

He just has a naturally-occurring light area of hair. It's been there all along. For once, nothing to worry about.

 

[multiverse]

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Forgive me if this has been discussed before and I've forgotten in the horrifying cyclical monotony of this thread, but what's going on here? Did Atlas wiggle while getting his head buzzed, or is this some sort of birthmark or something that we already knew (or didn't know) about?

Atlas has had a patch of vitiligo on the back of his head since birth. Possibly related to the trauma of HIS home birth, since Robyn complained endlessly about how she didn't get her dream birth experience between Atlas and Oakleys births. Robyn would rather she and her children die than submit to a doctor attended birth, and the result is one potato, one speech delayed kid with an autoimmune disorder, and one child who thankfully appears to be hitting normal milestones.

Vitiligo is an autoimmune disorder where patches of skin lose their pigmentation. If the patch is located on hairy skin, the hair turns white. It is not reversible once the skin pigment has gone. Vitiligo tends to appear and spread during times of high stress on the body.

 

[Oracular Slug]

Atlas has had a patch of vitiligo on the back of his head since birth. Possibly related to the trauma of HIS home birth, since Robyn complained endlessly about how she didn't get her dream birth experience between Atlas and Oakleys births. Robyn would rather she and her children die than submit to a doctor attended birth, and the result is one potato, one speech delayed kid with an autoimmune disorder, and one child who thankfully appears to be hitting normal milestones.

Vitiligo is an autoimmune disorder where patches of skin lose their pigmentation. If the patch is located on hairy skin, the hair turns white. It is not reversible once the skin pigment has gone. Vitiligo tends to appear and spread during times of high stress on the body.

Cool your jets, it's just a random birthmark.

 

[Ethyllithium Boybortion]

Cool your jets, it's just a random birthmark.

Simmer down, birthmarks don’t normally turn hair white.

 

[Barbarella]

I know a kid who had a patch exactly like this. It never spread in 20 years and was not caused by anything. Sometimes it’s just a mark. There are lots of variation in humanity and it’s not all dangerous.

Obviously, when you have one damaged child people think the odds increase when you have more, but I doubt statistics would bear it out. (When it’s not genetic.) . Atlas is fine, its even possible his speech is no longer that far behind since 99% of what they post are boomerangs and there have been two videos where it sounds like he’s speaking. We just don’t know yet.

Robin did look off in that video to me though. Maybe Luna has actually gone to the great cabbage patch in the sky and they just don’t want to post it. That rash on Luna’s face was truly terrible and the Hartleys looked like that at the end. I presume it means the immune system has stopped functioning but IANAD.

She’s probably in private groups where she’s shared the truth-if there is anything to share-but I don’t think we know about them.

 

[TractorGirl]

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Forgive me if this has been discussed before and I've forgotten in the horrifying cyclical monotony of this thread, but what's going on here? Did Atlas wiggle while getting his head buzzed, or is this some sort of birthmark or something that we already knew (or didn't know) about?

It’s the Mark of Sanity, it obviously skips a generation, neither parent has it…

 

[Evan]

Would a narc of Robyn's caliber do something so subtle though? Like yeah, Robyn absolutely has done "Look at me, I'm so happy with my potato daughter and disengaged husband, look at us, we're all so HAPPY and THRIVING" posts to own the haters, that was 90% of her Luna posts, but this doesn't come off as some staged LOOK AT US thing, this just her picking lint off her slippers in the garage. Very diffrent vibes.

That's why I think something is still actually wrong. Because I think she's trying to look nonchalant. Hanging with the hubs and kids. But she just looks checked the fuck out.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Glenn IG:

 

[brooky]

In the Sixth Sense, a little patch of white hair on the back of the head indicates that a child can see and communicate with ghosts. Both the main child character and Bruce Willis' former client had it.

Boys gotta talk to big sis somehow!