The end of an era - The Liberal revolutions are over. And they have failed.

[MarquisDeStatic]

nice wall of autism, retarded cuck.

 

[Dyn]

@mindlessobserver even if that was the last thing you wrote before a mass shooting we still wouldn't read it all the way through.

 

[Blamo]

I think the ideas of Classical Liberalism are a good addition to temper the excesses of the Managerial State and Mass society.

The current social ills are a direct result of centralization of power and the loss of autonomy of the individual, family and local communities. In contrary to popular beliefs the governments are competent, just not at the things they promise but in population control. If they weren't you wouldn't give away most of your money to taxes, abide to people in fancy clothes and give up your children to be indoctrinated for more than a decade. Neither they could send of millions to die to defend a piece of cloth.

Once you gave away your own ways to govern yourself, somebody else will gladly do it for you and not in your best interest.

Poz have a few possible reasons for existence:

• Bioleninism: you can give power to weird minorities who wouldn't get power without you thus ending up with very loyal people who are not loyal to the general population, in fact they hate the normal crowds.
• Divide and Conquer: you will worry about your neighbor having a little more, instead of the top 1% being comically rich at your expense
• Media spectacle to channel discontent and put up on a show that your voice do matter in politics (but only in certain limited ways)
• It's a rubik cube for the intellectuals, instead of trying to hurt the establishment you can have a comfortable job speculating endlessly about critical porky theory all day, every day.
• due to welfare state and technology, social standards are out dated and less practical
• It can be used to redefine freedom, notice how the gays and trannies are the ones who needs rights and freedom. Yeah, just be lost to your carnal urges, that's important and safe for the system.
• It puts the population into small, predictable groups. None of the woke categories are organic neither do they have any means to be successfully organized, but they sure limit the way of thinking of the people who are in said box.

At the end of the day, it is not really a failure of individual rights and personal responsibility considering all the efforts done in the last century or so to retard said rights and responsibilities. Society is made incoherent on purpose, you are put in a specialized box and expected to react emotionally to everything. If people can't think rationally, nor they can efficiently communicate they can't organize and you can just distract them endlessly with product and "politics".

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

I am writing this primarily to try and articulate my own political beliefs, because I have found you really cannot understand what you believe unless you actually write it down and see it in written words. And you cannot really believe it unless other people read those words and challenge them.

This is a wise thing to do, I had to write down my thoughts to reconcile my beliefs on race and nation. You can come back to it later and change the parts that were written in anger, and remind yourself of the reasoning behind your beliefs when they are challenged.

At a fundamental level our society is under attack.

I see at the fundamental level a society that is instead breaking down due to internal forces. One in which the undoing of industrialization left few high IQ winners and most as losers which now circle each other viciously. Bankers back the false revolutions of gender in order to divide their opponents up in the real revolution of class warfare. If 5% of society were failing, then they are the villains. However I believe 60-70% of society is by median income openly failing, and that makes society the villain or at least the forces within society causing the rate of failure to grow so large.

Whether we internalize or externalize our problems into a sickness or an attack is important. There are no clean wins politically in a society, only clean compromises. If we must 'win' then we must stop trying to compromise with our enemies nor assume what is coming will not be bloody. Society works if everyone is playing an infinite game. In infinite games, like business or politics or life itself, the players come and go, the rules are changeable, and there is no winning but only ensuring you can continue to play. In finite games, like football or chess, the players are known, the rules are fixed, and the endpoint is clear. The winners and losers are easily identified. Societies which contain people trying to win often ignore that those players must stop their opponents from being able to continue playing in order to win. That is why these things spiral into Tyranny and Civil War.

I cannot say whether we should be trying to ensure everyone gets to continue playing like a good Conservative or acknowledge the truth that once one player decides to turn an infinite game into a finite game then its win or lose for everyone. Certainly not in the era of the "Christchurch Call to Action to Eliminate Terrorist and Violent Extremist Content Online" and Biden's call for White Liberals to race-traitor and turn in their white neighbors if they see suggestions of radicalism. I acknowledge no truth openly which would see me turned on by my neighbors.

I open with this simple statement because it underpins the entire framework of our political landscape. This simple truth is made all the worse by the fact that the people doing the attacking think they are doing it for the very best of intentions. Which also makes them the most pernicious of tyrants. We refer to these people in the shorthand as "social justice warriors", which is a gross simplification and in my view also diminishes the threat by implying our society is being undone by fat blue haired women with no boyfriends. In truth it is actually a mass movement of collectivist belief systems that are seeking at every level to undo the narrative framework of western civilization and replace it with a new order. one not based on individual liberty but on group consensus, and the subordination of the individual to it.

This moral framework of "Equity" comes from Marxism and argues that individual outcomes are not as morally justifiable as group outcomes. It is a prepackaged quasi religious belief, and it is spreading like wildfire. Go to any urban center, and instead of American flags on the porch you will be seeing the flags of various Groups. Like Pride flags as an example. You will also see a lawn sign I particularly detest that is essentially the declaration of faith of this new political order.

In this House We Believe:
Black Lives Matter
Women's Rights are human rights
No human is illegal
Science is real
Love is Love
Kindness is Everything

I despise everything about this declaration of faith. And it IS declaration of faith. A group declaration. It says it right at the beginning "We Believe". We Believe is different from a more authoritative statement. "It is True". When you say you believe something you are appealing to faith not reason. It is a religious catechism, not a statement of fact. And this declaration of faith is one of a series of collective group identities and articles of faith. It also stands in opposition to the fundamental moral framework of the American State, as America is predicated on the notion of a single unified people not delineated by group identities.

Through these declarations of new beliefs, mass immigration, and the chasing out of traditionalism there is some rough beast, its hour come round at last, trying parasitically to be born from within America. It wants to be America whenever it is not rhetorically attacking America. Born out of the genocides of the World Wars and the various social struggles such as the Wars on Christmas, Coal, Drugs, Gangs, Police, Poverty, Terror, and Women these Fake Americans who cheer when Biden uses divisive language but hated it when Trump did. Biden's my president but Trump was never theirs but only Russia's. A new War against White Extremism and for Social Justice, all to transform America into something queer non-white post-christian and natureless.

I don't know if I am more afraid that they will, in permanent failure, rip America apart into scarier and scarier forms or if they will succeed in reducing Americans from having any such natures into the Cathar Prophecy that was spoken by the last known Parfait, Guilhem Belibaste in the Occitan region of Southern France, on August 21st at 8 am, 1321: 'we shall return in 700 years when the laurel turns green again'

Worse then this however is the implicit menace in the prayer. The implication that while the people of this house believe these things, there are people out there who do not. Such as myself. And someone like me, well, I am apparently damned on every level. I am not kind, I am incapable of love or being loved and I am intellectually bankrupt to boot. I am not one of the elect because I refuse to subscribe to this new moral framework
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What the punishment for my sins will be I suppose remains to be seen. But I cannot help but state to the bottom of my soul that every statement in these signs that left wing adherents put in their windows and lawns is a monstrous lie.

These people are foremost not an ideology. I don't actually believe they embody, within the rich neighborhoods where these signs began, the Antifa violence which plague the Working Class in America. They are signalling not that they are violent or mean you direct harm. They mean you harm in an indirect way that a secret society would. Notice how none of the signs mention labor rights? Why? How did that consensus happen among wildly distant people? Because the consensus is not that they hate labor rights or ignore them. They are foremost of a class which would not be served by them. That before anything else defines them and so what the sign means to them.

They signal allegiance to each other as if possessing a secret handshake or meeting hall allowing them to plan and plot without you. But why would such form a new allegiance and need new signals?

Firstly it is because they know that Right-Wing Populism will end their political power if populism and rebellion is rhetorically ceded. Social Justice more and more resembles Christian Rap Artists rather than the Black Panthers every day. It will get worse and worse for them if they do not recapture the energy of being the opposition rather than the elites they truly are. These professional white-collar elites are the New Priesthood of Neoliberal atheism, and are the virtue school of liberalism who deeply need you to listen to them but feel no need to listen back. Hence the tone of the sign.

Back in the early days of Obama, he worried more about Wall Street than Occupy Wall Street. But now populism has broke these people. Bernie Sanders, Trump, republican hatred of Trade Deals, and Brexit broke the back of these two peoples. The elite of the Democratic Party and the ruling class of Big Business and Organized Money which are coalescing around the non-left liberalism of the democratic party to form one Neo-Liberal allegiance against the common man. The former republican base think democracies end when they are too democratic. The democratic elites think the county abandoned their establishment not the other way around. So the two groups, both supporters of the War in Iraq, couped and self-couped the Democratic Party. In rich economically-right neighborhoods, these signs profess platitudes on one level and on an entirely different level they profess allegiance.

The signs are themselves a sign of their fight over populism and how the 'liberals' of the new coalition see themselves and what they want to do with power.

The biggest killer of black people in America is not the government, and it is not white people. It is other black Men. Men. Who are black. If police are defunded as BLM demands, then the black community will be defenseless against a horde of well armed young black males who will prey upon them like cattle. This is the unfortunate truth well heeled white liberals don't want to confront.

These blacks are their first prey, they need voters. Blacks reliably vote democrat if they can be said to reliably vote. With the mail-in voting scheme, it can be said that they vote and who will question it?

They also don't support women's rights, when it comes to the right of a woman to fulfill one of the most meaningful roles for women in our society. Wife and Mother. To the contrary they view women who want to actually parent their children as beneath contempt. In all their protestations, what they want is women to be like men, and any woman who says no is simply a brainwashed servitor of the patriarchy. It never once occurs to them that if women have the right to choose, they may actually choose to NOT kill their unborn children.

Similarly women reliably betray their men to vote blue no matter who in blind fanatical hatred and fear of the alternatives. Reliably that can be used so long as Women continue to be broken by modernity and lack men to trust in and be happy beside. Love in late societies shift from a mechanism for women wanting children to one of attaining companionship. In their sterility, they desire Democrat talking points rather than in motherhood wanting Republican talking points.

The claim that no human is illegal is likewise a foolish generalization. No humans? At all? Then I suppose we need to give shelter to Serbian war criminals who perpetrated the genocides in Bosnia. Because NO HUMAN is illegal. For that matter surviving Nazi camp guards need to be evacuated to America post haste. Because again. NO HUMAN is illegal. Of course they will try and equivocate when you point this out. And try to make exceptions, ignoring the fundamental truth. The SS guards at Aushwitz were human too. The claim then that no human is illegal is false, because humans are capable of any number of things and for these reasons we establish laws and borders.

This is probably an expression of power and denying a trans-racial Catholic consensus from forming. It tasted bitter in their mouths when Trump won the Cuban vote, you saw how they acted.

The claim that Science is Real is likewise a lie. Science is no more real then fiction. Or a hammer. It is a tool by which men work. It certainly has its uses, but it is not a replacement for faith. And this prayer on the sign is a statement of faith. Science is based purely on empirical truth. Such as the truth that Females get pregnant and males do the Impregnating among mammals. Say that this scientific truth applies to humans and I guarantee that the person who put this prayer on their lawn will have a fit.

If they are the party of Science, rhetorically they can lockdown and transgender children or whatever they want. This is actually a losing position for the Republican Party to cede to the Democrats since COVID changed the public perception of Doctors and Vaccines. Potentially scientists who fought the system could be used rhetorically against the Democrats. So they posture otherwise.

Up until this point the moral framework of western civilization of which the USA is a component has been on the divinity of the individual. That an individual has value in the eyes of God. Even in the dark days of feudalism this was understood. A Lord did not have an obligation to the group. He had an obligation to obey the individual sovereign, and care for the individuals placed under his responsibility. The liberal revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries were not efforts to overturn this belief system. They were efforts to make them more applicable in the face of the Aristocracies' betrayal of that responsibility. And they succeeded. The Landed aristocrats were dispossessed of power and in their place a new ruling class drawn from urban merchant class replaced them. Under the belief that they would be able to steer the moral framework of our society better. They have failed.

The merchant class of the West has fallen into the same corruption for power that the landed nobles fell into hundreds of years ago. They want the benefits of power, and none of the responsibilities that come with it. Chief among which is that they are answerable to every filthy peasant on the street. It is no surprise then that this new collectivist ideology on the left has so much support among the modern Aristocracy. If they do not have a responsibility to the individual and just the group, they do not need to care if YOU live or die. The only thing that matters is the perpetuation of the State, and your opinion no longer matters. This is why all collectivist states inevitably devolve into tyranny. And it is why the western democracies will become Tyrannies as the collectivist message of group identities becomes more applied in law and culture. Because a society that does not respect the sanctity of the individual is one who will treat individual lives as so many numbers on a ledger book.

The most pernicious part of this is that our traditional tools of individual freedom and our own emotional empathy have been weaponized to spread this belief of collectivist outcome over the individual. Those of us who believe in free expression are poorly adapted to dealing with a situation in which we are contending with ideas that want to fundamentally destroy us and have no desire for cohabitation.

The Friend/Enemy distinction is entirely lost among the virtuous right-wing loons who refuse to see the truth and the outcomes of their actions and the liberal's. Ben Shapiro's supporters will of course disagree on the grounds that hyper-individualism need not acknowledge reality but instead their more engaging fantasy of living according to the metaphysics and morals of Capitalism regardless. Sexless monks who want us all to join in their cultural suicide pact against America reasserting itself.

If your enemies want power, and will use it to hurt you, do you give it to them? What if it is their turn according to the rules? What if it harms your family to nation-cuck? I say the social pact between banker and worker is dead. We can make a new social pact, but not with the whole world. Neither perhaps with the hyper-individualists. Hard to say, they are not wrong amongst a virtuous people.

This relationship is on full display in the furor over the teaching of critical theory in the public schools. The same people pushing these ideas are aghast that conservatives in favor of Free Speech would dare try to silence them, but when a teacher in Loudoun County, Virginia has the audacity to say at a school board meeting his deeply held religious convictions compel him to not call biological males female, he is promptly fired. Never mind the fact the school board itself stated the purpose of this meeting was to get input. That teacher was promptly fired.

In all collectivist states, the point of a political forum is not for individuals to state their opinions, it is for the group consensus to be affirmed. And that affirmation is pre determined. An individual like that Virginia Teacher speaking his own mind is not an act of virtue to collectivist morality. It's a crime, and one that is to be published severely. To see the same things that played out in China and Russia repeated in America is distressing in the extreme. It makes me fear that if we have not already gone past the point where this will lead to violence, it is a point we are rapidly approaching.

You are completely right here, and it needs to be acknowledged more. They practice open-mindedness in order to trap the simple. Perhaps their culling of the weak-minded "High-Trust even when it isn't warranted" people will help us? It certainly gets them out of the way fighting me and mine.

We have focused so much on what our rights are that we have ignored the responsibilities that come with them. The people who put those odious "We Believe" signs and Pride flags on their property have chosen to side against people like me who believe society is a collection of individuals rather then a subordination of groups. Me and my next door neighbor are individuals but we exchanged phone numbers so we can come to each other's mutual support if needed. Not because we share racial or family ties, but because we have to live next to each other. As such we have a shared responsibility for each others safety. This is what all stable societies emerge from. All stable and Free societies anyway.

And this is what the Urban Merchants do not understand. In the liberal revolutions they were the most powerful of the dispossesed classes, as they had wealth and immediate access to the bases of the monarchies power in the cities. It is for this reason when the monarchies were overthrown they assumed power. And due to the fact that the church was joined at the hip to the monarchies the Urban Merchants dispossessed the Clergy along with their nobles. They did not just seize political power, they seized cultural power too.

The end result being an absolute explosion of economic growth over the last 300 years. But we are now starting to see the price. God has been driven from his temple. The culture and faith now exist to serve the State, which all exist for one single purpose. To make money for those in power. A perverse inversion of the feudal Era is being implemented as we speak, as millions of people are willingly being put back into serfdom, only this time with their bondage contracted as Leasing agreements and debt. Over all of this, just as the church of Christ came to justify the degradations of the nobility a new religion of secular humanism is being imposed by our new Lord's to legitimize their divine mastery of our lives. A religion proclaimed by that fucking "we believe" sign.

The liberal revolutions have failed. They failed because they trusted the Burghers. And the Burghers have no loyalty to anyone. Only to money. If we are to make a free world for ourselves and our children, I fear we must soon make hard choices. I do not claim to have a perfect solution, but despite the meme potential I feel the philosophy of Heinlein might be the answer at least in part. A federal government not based on a union of states, but a Union of Citizens. Individuals.

Technology for the first time can make true democracy possible. The tool of our oppression turned to liberation. But I fear it may come to violence to bring about. Because like the aristocrats of old, the Merchant Class has drunk deep from the cup of iniquity and now claims to not only be our king, but also our God.

The Working Class must organize and cast aside the prime lie that controls them: They are the traditionalists, not the socialists, within society. The socialists are the white-collar bureaucrats. The Traditionalists are the working class. They must learn from how the neoliberal forms their allegiances and form their own. They must be ready to act exactly as bad as their opponents, and not hesitate over the voice of Shapiro in their ear arguing "preposition nation" horseshit.

I want to be among a single people, where the youth is seen as more the people perhaps, but with the least formal class divisions. There must always be a path to a house, spouse, 2.5 kids and a white picket fence for the common citizen. It mustn't be given, but earned. This teaches the virtues of nature and discipline. To live without crumbing apart is a talent which nature used to teach harshly and then we went without. People will never value what is given freely, and valuing things in life is one of the most important parts of living. Man cannot be allowed to see himself as the master being, but as the mastering of being. Life, like marriage and the nation, is only the work put into it. We must struggle and live for these things. I want these rural values, and would never exchange living among a people like this for riches because what I would most want and could not buy is a tribe to belong to.

What I most do not want however, is the Neoliberals who claim not just to be our aristocracy but our priesthood as well.

 

[Blamo]

This is a wise thing to do, I had to write down my thoughts to reconcile my beliefs on race and nation. You can come back to it later and change the parts that were written in anger, and remind yourself of the reasoning behind your beliefs when they are challenged.

That is not a bad practice, one can get surprised how many things they hold that they don't even know where it came from.
Self reflection and planning are what separates from animals, in theory.

 

[mindlessobserver]

What I most do not want however, is the Neoliberals who claim not just to be our aristocracy but our priesthood as well.

I think this right here is what is upsetting me the most. I have no issue with people disagreeing with me. My issue is when the people who disagree with me feel they have a moral if not religious imperative to compel my behavior. It used to be the First Amendment prevented this sort of thing, but the people behind this movement pulled off a magic trick of turning a spiritual movement into some sort of academic discipline. It's not, but the Universities gave it that patina of legitimacy. It also turning our elections from debates over issues into arguments over over structure of our national soul. Which are always zero sum arguments.

What makes it downright frightening is that corporations and governments are embracing it and State power is now being applied to go after heretic religions. Like in the Gay Wedding Cake baker as the best example I have atm. You also are starting to see the formation of a tiered justice system where adherents of the new state religion are not punished with the same severity as non believers. Something that is massively dangerous for societies long term stability.