Opinion The End of Neoconservatism - New Trump Doctrine just dropped. Nation-building is cancelled.

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In what can be called a victory speech over failed neoconservative foreign policy, President Donald Trump proclaimed the end of 30-some years of existing foreign policy in the Mideast. The ideology dragged the U.S. through pointless wars from Libya to Yemen is now dead.

At an investment conference in Riyadh, in a speech little-commented on by the mainstream media, Trump said, “In the end, the so-called nation builders wrecked far more nations than they built. And the interventionalists [sic] were intervening in complex societies that they did not even understand.”

For the first time since the First Gulf War in the 1990s, America is not fighting in the Middle East. Trump arranged a fragile ceasefire with Yemen, where multiple U.S. presidents have waged a proxy war against Iran. Trump is withdrawing American troops from Syria, became the first American president in 25 years to meet with a Syrian leader, and announced alongside his speech the end of sanctions against that country. He is finally negotiating with Iran toward some sort of nuclear deal to replace the one he unilaterally canceled in his first term. Progress has not always been in a straight line, but there has been progress.

One need only to look back on the past decades to see the difference. The United States once overtly supported Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran, leading to thousands of deaths on both sides. Pivoting, the U.S. invaded Iraq in 1991 after Saddam moved into Kuwait. Saudi Arabia was threatened, saved from war by U.S. intervention because of its oil reserves, which the U.S. was then fully dependent on. In the neocon spasms following 9/11, America invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, launching a nation-building plan in both countries to displace national governments with American puppet states and local Islamic traditions with Western ideas on women and society.

Those nation-building actions gave support to warnings issued by Al Qaeda and ISIS that the west sought to neuter Islam and turn the Middle East into a part of a new global empire. Rumors circulated that American troops in Iraq were issued maps of the Syrian border ahead of plans to turn the massive military to sweep west into Syria and Lebanon following the “conquest” of Iraq. As that war brought Iran into the fight, U.S. troops were deployed to Syria, the Turks threatened invasion, and Russian intervention complicated the struggle. ISIS rose to replace Al Qaeda. The U.S. began a war in Libya, overthrowing another ugly but stable government, leading to chaos which continues to this day. Massive streams of refugees flowed into Europe. Yemen dissolved into anarchy and civil war. The Afghan war threatened to spill into Pakistan.

Though actual numbers can never be known, the Costs of War Project estimates over 940,000 people died directly as a result of violence due to American foreign policy in the post-9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. An additional 3.6–3.8 million died indirectly due to factors like malnutrition, disease, and the breakdown of healthcare systems related to these conflicts. The total death toll, including both direct and indirect casualties, is estimated to be between 4.5 and 4.7 million. The Costs of War Project also highlights the significant displacement caused by these conflicts, with an estimated 38 million people displaced since 2001. Some 7,000 U.S. military service members died. The Project estimates the wars cost the U.S. over $8 trillion. Afghanistan today is again ruled by the Taliban, Iraq by Iranian proxies. Nation-building was a complete failure. The broader neoconservative interventionist policy failed.

Indeed, the best summation of America's decades long policy in the Middle East is Trump’s.

Words are easy, actions often much harder. So what is next? Trump stated his “fervent wish” that Saudi Arabia follow its neighbors, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, in recognizing Israel. He said a nuclear deal is within sight with Iran, adding he “never believed in having permanent enemies.” Both are hard asks.

But in a sign of what may be the most significant change alongside the new foreign policy, Trump met the new leader of Syria, Ahmed al-Sharaa, a former Al Qaeda jihadist (one makes peace with one’s enemies, not one’s friends) who led a rebel alliance that ousted Bashar al-Assad. Trump posed for a photograph with al-Sharaa and the Saudi crown prince that “dropped jaws in the region and beyond.”

“In recent years, far too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion that it’s our job to look into the souls of foreign leaders and use U.S. policy to dispense justice for their sins,” Trump added in support of his growing realpolitik approach.

Syria is now at a crossroads. The end of sanctions will give the country its first chance at economic breathing room in 14 years. Al-Sharaa has invited American energy companies to exploit Syria’s oil. But the ball is still in the Syrian court. Syria must decide whether to reject Iranian terrorist support and stop providing a safe haven for those fighters. Gulf leaders have rallied behind the new government in Damascus and want Trump to do the same, believing it is a bulwark against Iranian influence. Pressure will come from the United States for Syria to cut its ties with Russia and dismantle the Russian bases and enclaves there. Although al-Sharaa has confirmed his commitment to the 1974 disengagement agreement with Israel, Trump will no doubt seek his support for the Abraham Accords. He’ll also want Syria to assume responsibility for ISIS detention centers in Northeast Syria.

There is a lot to talk about and many difficult steps ahead, but a start is a start. With Trump making clear that the goals of fostering human rights, nation-building, and democracy promotion have been replaced by a pragmatic emphasis on prosperity and regional stability, Syria has its opening. “I am willing to end past conflicts and forge new partnerships for a better and more stable world, even if our differences may be profound,” Trump said.
 
Only while Trump is around. I doubt the Neocons will ever get back in office. They are still out there though. The Democrats have pretty much made themselves the anti-war party. No one in the US wants any wars started so it wouldn't do them any either. Considering the Republicans recent fuck ups with the cut to Medicaid and the ending of sales of snacks and soda with SNAP benefits I doubt they will remain in power. Fucking with the bennies was the one thing I said the Republicans could do to fuck themselves and they went and did it anyway. Just like the Democrats with their BS the Republicans will most like pay for theirs. I don't see any wars being started directly in the future. Especially not any major wars. Russia is pretty much done after Ukraine. They spent most of their military in a foolish gamble there and they don't have the money or the ability to build it back up. China's economy will probably eventually collapse. As the US economy gets worse and consumer spending declines the Chinese economy will eventually fall and it will take the government down with it. The Chinese could be taken down a lot faster if we would just cut them off and stop doing business with them but even with Trump in office that won't happen completely. He only has a little over 3 years left. But the rich people don't want that, and, in the US, the rich people usually get what they want.

I'm not really that concerned with wars being started. Those days are pretty much over. There is no way someone like Jeb Bush Mike Pence or any other Neocon would ever win another election. That was pretty much proven back in 2008 with McCain and Obama. I guess from this point on it will be Democrats unless someone else like Trump comes along.
 
I'd love to know what our constant 90s Middle-East war was,
I love how effective the media was at getting people to forget clintons war crimes in iraq
because whatever it was I can guarantee we're doing more to help Israel and bomb IS remnants right now.
If only

The Democrats have pretty much made themselves the anti-war party
They have been the pro war party since the turn of the 20th century when all the industrialists tied to Lincoln got rich off of reconstruction

I mean...do you remember ww1? 2? Vietnam?

Literally only jfk and Donald Trump have been anti war democrats. Both got shot in the head.

Ramped up Iraq? What fucking parallel universe are you from?
Maybe you're too young, but you should look up this thing called the "Arab spring"

Even fucking GOOGLE admits Obama increased military effort there
 
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I love how effective the media was at getting people to forget clintons war crimes in iraq

If only


They have been the pro war party since the turn of the 20th century when all the industrialists tied to Lincoln got rich off of reconstruction

I mean...do you remember ww1? 2? Vietnam?

Literally only jfk and Donald Trump have been anti war democrats. Both got shot in the head.
Progressivism is Americas homegrown version of fascism (first promoting White Protestantism, then shifting to become a fascism of a coalition of minorities), and it’s a war ideology like all fascism.
 
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Progressivism is Americas homegrown version of fascism (first promoting White Protestantism, then shifting to become a fascism of a coalition of minorities), and it’s a war ideology like all fascism.
Yea. I know this. But a LOT of people still believe the same lies they were told at age 11 in "school" and never grew out of it and legit think democrats are the good guys

The irony is that they will unironically whine about how bad nazis were while literally supporting every thing the nazis did and planned
 
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I will never trust Trump as long as he is another puppet of Israel. Israel is responsible for dragging the US into those wars for their own ends and influencing politicians to invade the Middle East to weaken their enemies and increase their own strength. Osama Bin Laden directly stated that America and its support for Israel is what inspired him to declare a jihad against the USA. Now Israel can purge the Palestinians, make them flood into western countries and further weaken the west while stealing billions of dollars to become a military super power.

You think you hate kikes enough, you don't.
 
Ramped up Iraq? What fucking parallel universe are you from?
ISIS is a result of Obama funding Al'Qaeda in Iraq, its just a rebranding of that group we fought during the Iraq War. Obama did WAY more damage than Bush ever could have. Launched coups in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran, and Ukraine, something we're still dealing with over a decade later. The Syrian gambit exploded in Obama's face and ISIS came across the border into Iraq which required another intervention. Obama's second term was peak Neo-Conservatism in action and Biden jumped right back in on the action once Trump was out of office.
 
ISIS is a result of Obama funding Al'Qaeda in Iraq, its just a rebranding of that group we fought during the Iraq War. Obama did WAY more damage than Bush ever could have. Launched coups in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran, and Ukraine, something we're still dealing with over a decade later. The Syrian gambit exploded in Obama's face and ISIS came across the border into Iraq which required another intervention. Obama's second term was peak Neo-Conservatism in action and Biden jumped right back in on the action once Trump was out of office.
Obama didn't launch coups" in those nations, dummy. We were totally caught offguatd by nearly all of them.
 
I will never trust Trump as long as he is another puppet of Israel
Trump is doing a lot to stop the slaughter in Gaza by attempting to broker ceasefires. I can see a future, not too far away, where US military support of Israel is limited to subsidized materiel, but no hulls in the water, birds in the air or boots on the ground.

If I were him I’d be heartily sick of vocally supporting Israel while scumbag US ‘secular’ Jews do everything in their power to have him sued, prosecuted, impeached and hounded.

The shocking lethality and ethical considerations around drone warfare are going a long way towards taking the edge off even the biggest hawk’s bloodlust. I don’t think many presidents are likely to survive footage of US troops pinned down and blown to bits by suicide drones in a war to defend another country.

Obama funding Al'Qaeda in Iraq, it’s just a rebranding of that group we fought during the Iraq War.
US Al-Qaida funding started in the Reagan years during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. ISIS is not Al-Qaida, but you’re right that the ‘Arab Spring’ was 100% an Obama-Biden-Clinton clusterfuck that should see all three tried by the ICJ.
 
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Trump is doing a lot to stop the slaughter in Gaza by attempting to broker ceasefires. I can see a future, not too far away, where US military support of Israel is limited to subsidized materiel, but no hulls in the water, birds in the air or boots on the ground.

Trump is only doing that for political points and to make himself seem like "the peace maker". This is the same guy that posted an AI slop video of Gaza being turned into a Trump resort and is willing to allow Israel free reign to do whatever it wants. All his peace motivations are done to try and secure a stronger position for Israel by pacifying Iran, neutralizing Syria and demanding that the rest of the Middle East build diplomatic relationships with Israel under the Abraham Accords. Once the kikes have taken over all of the Gaza strip and can be self sufficient to grow their own nation they will begin trying to supplant the USA they bled dry and form themselves as a new super power with nuclear weapons, a massive military they didn't even pay for and all their enemies either pacified or turned into economic allies.

It doesn't matter whether they are undermining the west as the far left or the far right, Israel and zionist kikes will forever be the number one threat to the west and the rest of the world. I see a future where the far left and the true far right set aside their differences and target the elite system thats been screwing them over only to uncover who had been associated with or directly pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Both the left and the right are starting to (((notice))) pretty hard right now. Even the young gen-z generation and blacks / hispanics are making nazi memes and shitting on Israel.
 
I will never trust Trump as long as he is another puppet of Israel. Israel is responsible for dragging the US into those wars for their own ends and influencing politicians to invade the Middle East to weaken their enemies and increase their own strength. Osama Bin Laden directly stated that America and its support for Israel is what inspired him to declare a jihad against the USA. Now Israel can purge the Palestinians, make them flood into western countries and further weaken the west while stealing billions of dollars to become a military super power.

You think you hate kikes enough, you don't.
Sad as it is, he's the best we've got. You don't make it that far up the food chain without supporting Israel.
 
Sad as it is, he's the best we've got. You don't make it that far up the food chain without supporting Israel.
Truman, Eisaenhower, JFK, Bush Sr., Reagan, Bill Clinton(briefly), Bush Jr., Obama(2x), Trump(1st term), Biden, Trump(2nd term) all allowed Israel(a puny state in the Middle East that provided nothing measurable against the Soviet Union or China landwise) to dictate the foreign policy of the west for over 50 years. Don't tell me Trump is "the best we got" when he is doing what all the other elitist washington swamp scum have done since the holocaust which is to pander to the kikes at the expense of everyone else, both Aryans / Gypsy's / Romanians / Niggers / Arabs and brought the whole world to the edge of disaster. George Soros, a left wing billionaire funding all the mass immigration thats filling Europe and America with brown rapeugees? A fucking kike. Larry Fink, a jewish CEO of BlackRock which is an evil multi corporation that bribed neocons into starting all those war is in the middle east that your hero Trump is suddenly trying to stop and is also suing United Healthcare because they didnt pursue anti-consumer practices after their CEO got shot in the head by Saint Luigi Mangione since it cause their stock to drop by a few percentage points?

Trannies in womens bathrooms, niggers rioting in the street, europe becoming a dictatorship, white people being erased and shamed. It all comes from the same source, hook nosed kikes who wormed their way into the highest levels of our society and caused the death of millions to take back a piece of land they commited genocide to grab after the Romans(our true white heritage) kicked them the fuck out because they were sick of their shit.

In other words fuck the kikes and fuck America for enabling them.
 
As much as I like the fact that Trump is being "a broker of peace," the whole Syrian situation makes me sick to my stomach. The rebels were NEVER our enemy. We bankrolled them through the Saudi's and Qatar the entire fucking war. The current "leader" of Syria is a confirmed jihadist whose people are kidnapping, raping, and murdering Alwates at this very moment. The only reason no one cares is that now the Saudi's can build their pipeline through Syria and into Europe to fight Russian influence.

TL;DR the proxy wars aren't ending, they are just changing location.
 
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