The Endless Drum Beating

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I seriously feel bad for Null. He has committed his life to this site and to the concept of free speech but it seems the vultures are circling. I don't think this will be the end of the site but it's definitely handicapped.

One must wonder how much more time, effort, and money will invest in this site that is a shadow of itself. Part of me wants to believe that this site will be around for a long time and another believes that Null will keep us running until the 10 year anniversary before pulling the plug.

But what then?

Null walks alone.

His reputation and the enemies he has made a job in tech impossible. Similarly for most corporate jobs. E begging is limited since he is banned on most normie platforms. In my mind that leaves menial labor with sporadic income coming in from his streams.

Null is a goddamn hero, and I don't envy him one bit. What he is going through is exactly why I cucked out during my own admittedly disastrous attempt to be a free speech absolutist provider. It's a Sisyphian task. To be willing to sacrifice your entire life and go into exile to give a platform to ideas you may even disagree with is something any American should admire.

The whackamole with IPs is bad, but if countries like Iceland and Australia start denying service for censorship reasons it's worse. Still there could even be a higher level of bad, which would be if they petition ICANN (or just their sympathizers on the inside) to not allow Kiwifarms or any site Null makes to exist.

At that point it's game over. We're in Fahrenheit 451 for free information at that point.

 

[TheSkoomer]

Still there could even be a higher level of bad, which would be if they petition ICANN (or just their sympathizers on the inside) to not allow Kiwifarms or any site Null makes to exist.

At that point it's game over. We're in Fahrenheit 451 for free information at that point.

And we'd still be on Tor.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

If I already have a list of candidates for a nick being someone and the IP gives me their rough geographic location, they're doxed at that point.

Just saying that if you were to do that to me and found my IP address you'd be looking for me in a city almost 200 miles away. Sure the satellite office I connect out of is in my general location but their main hub is 200 miles away. It's like when I was working in Japan. Our head office was in New York and, to anybody checking, that's where I was connecting from.

IP addresses can get you close but not always.

There's a reason to use VPNs and why an IP address is something you really don't want people knowing.

Definitely. I recommend a VPN to everybody. I don't care if all you do is send e-mail to your kids, look up recipes on the Food Network and cat videos on Youtube. A VPN adds a layer of privacy to your internet browsing. And if you're shitposting on a site like the Orchards and litigious troons are looking to dox you and send your info to your boss it's a necessity.

keffals admitted to it, thats why i mentioned the scotland yard. normies wouldn't ddos kiwifarms without keffals, so he is responsible

Unless Lucas said, "I'm currently DDoS'ing the Orchards and here's all the evidence I'm doing so" then signed off on it and had it notarized nothing can really be done because unless he was really sloppy, there's no evidence he did. And even if he did do that a lawyer could argue that it was all a LARP.

In order for the glowies to catch somebody like this they need to be investigating them meaning they need to practically have their PC monitored. And even if they did it's just the Orchards. Take us down and all that happens is a little less shitposting on teh intarwebs. It's not like we're Amazon, Google or some big name corporation who will wind up losing billions of dollars if it goes on.

The reality of the situation is we're too small a target for the glowies to care.

Bunch of computers in India and China still run Windows XP so, good luck with that one glowies

I did a small stint for the "Bank of India" in Tokyo. All their PCs were running DOS and they were using Netware 2.0 on their backend. And this was, I want to say, 2006. XP would have been an improvement. But then the American military was still using 8 inch floppies and systems designed in the 60's and 70's for missiles up until 2019. So stupidity abounds.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

And we'd still be on Tor.

Yeah, but define "we".

I don't know what a Tor or onion or whatever is and I'm fairly tech savvy. And I'm sure that people who use it will be like "C'MON BRO IT'S SO SIMPLE LOOK AT THIS IDIOT!" which reminds me of the attitude Linux evangelists have "IT'S EASY AND BETTER IN EVERY WAY C'MON JUST DO IT".

To he fair, if KF went DarkWeb and I had to use Tor to access it I probably would, but how many others will? The utility of the site for free information is proportional to the critical mass of users in diverse positions and countries and autistic Shakespeare Monkey Typing Power. If it gets down to 2000 power users on an unindexed, unreachable, unsearchable dark site, it will wither away and become a circlejerk.

 

[Trianon]

Whatever "optimistic" thing Null is cooking up must be pretty big, since he said on the MATI stream that he was going to release a press statement about it.

 

[Zaxamus]

Yeah, but define "we".

I don't know what a Tor or onion or whatever is and I'm fairly tech savvy. And I'm sure that people who use it will be like "C'MON BRO IT'S SO SIMPLE LOOK AT THIS IDIOT!" which reminds me of the attitude Linux evangelists have "IT'S EASY AND BETTER IN EVERY WAY C'MON JUST DO IT".

To he fair, if KF went DarkWeb and I had to use Tor to access it I probably would, but how many others will? The utility of the site for free information is proportional to the critical mass of users in diverse positions and countries and autistic Shakespeare Monkey Typing Power. If it gets down to 2000 power users on an unindexed, unreachable, unsearchable dark site, it will wither away and become a circlejerk.

It’s literally as simple as downloading an app and using a different web address with it - that’s it. BTW, you’re not anywhere close to being “fairly tech savvy.”

 

[TheSkoomer]

Yeah, but define "we".

I don't know what a Tor or onion or whatever is and I'm fairly tech savvy. And I'm sure that people who use it will be like "C'MON BRO IT'S SO SIMPLE LOOK AT THIS IDIOT!" which reminds me of the attitude Linux evangelists have "IT'S EASY AND BETTER IN EVERY WAY C'MON JUST DO IT".

To he fair, if KF went DarkWeb and I had to use Tor to access it I probably would, but how many others will? The utility of the site for free information is proportional to the critical mass of users in diverse positions and countries and autistic Shakespeare Monkey Typing Power. If it gets down to 2000 power users on an unindexed, unreachable, unsearchable dark site, it will wither away and become a circlejerk.

When the site was Tor-only we had more users on than we currently do at the time of me making this post.

 

[ForTheHoard]

When the site was Tor-only we had more users on than we currently do at the time of me making this post.

From the basic user end, it's not different than any other browser minus a few small differences. The web addresses are too odd to memorize so you have to bookmark, and you have to log in every time. It's only a very minor inconvenience, and even less so if you use the Tor option on Brave. In that care, it's just like opening a tab in a new window.

 

[nym]

Contacting congressmen, letting them know that this site is about "look and don't touch", letting them know we intentionally focus on people who, for example, violate minors;
letting them know that those who violate minors are being protected atm;
we need ISPs to crack down on those actually violating laws by intentionally participating in DDoS attacks. That IS something your congressmen can bitch and moan about, at least.

I've asked this before: has the confirmation ever come back from Tim Pool about what the response was from MTG?
What happened is Marjorie Taylor-Greene was SWATted; she immediately took internet talk for granted that she was SWATted by here [ridiculous]; Rekieta talked to Tim Pool who then agreed to talk to MTG "a friend of the show" that it clearly wasn't originating from here, but instead framing this site.
Anyone heard the Tim Pool / MTG results? Definitely relevant.

In case anyone doesn't know, just using a LOIC will land an adult in prison, or at least prevent a kid from using a computer... if caught. That's what's going on now. And we gotta get pressure from congresspeopleses onto ISPs to pursue this.

 

[actually a cat]

I don't know what a Tor or onion or whatever is and I'm fairly tech savvy. And I'm sure that people who use it will be like "C'MON BRO IT'S SO SIMPLE LOOK AT THIS IDIOT!" which reminds me of the attitude Linux evangelists have "IT'S EASY AND BETTER IN EVERY WAY C'MON JUST DO IT".

TL;DR tor is just a browser that uses long, hard to remember urls and is about as slow as mid 90s dial-up.
also, something something privacy or whatever.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

Yeah, but define "we".

I don't know what a Tor or onion or whatever is and I'm fairly tech savvy. And I'm sure that people who use it will be like "C'MON BRO IT'S SO SIMPLE LOOK AT THIS IDIOT!" which reminds me of the attitude Linux evangelists have "IT'S EASY AND BETTER IN EVERY WAY C'MON JUST DO IT".

To he fair, if KF went DarkWeb and I had to use Tor to access it I probably would, but how many others will? The utility of the site for free information is proportional to the critical mass of users in diverse positions and countries and autistic Shakespeare Monkey Typing Power. If it gets down to 2000 power users on an unindexed, unreachable, unsearchable dark site, it will wither away and become a circlejerk.

Except it really is that easy. All you have to do is

1. download TOR
2. open TOR
3. connect to TOR
4. copypaste the weird string of numbers and letters that null keeps posting five times every day on telegram
5. login (you do remember your password, right?)
6. continue genociding trannies with every stroke of your keyboard like it's business as usual

 

[Aidan]

remember to bookmark onion sites you use in the tor browser so you don't need to remember them.
I get to kiwifarms by typing "u" in the address bar and it autocompletes.

 

[Procrastinhater]

For some reason I can get on .top using tor but not duck, brave, or (shudder) google.
(On phone... I know... I know)
Any techfags that can explain this?
Also the tor site itself is janke (lol) as fuck, sign in kept telling me I'm a bot, and I keep getting 502 bad gateways.
Sorry Josh I know you're doing your best

 

[Mikoyan]

According to Wikipedia, Sao Tome and Principe outsourced operation of .st to Bahnhof, a Swedish company. So .st's days are probably numbered unless there's some silly clause in this shit where Sao Tome and Principe can intervene and reverse decisions Bahnhof makes. Null better know who in Sao Tome and Principe to bribe.

Oh, I'm actually familiar with Bahnhof. They suuuuuuuuck, unreliable shit. So it's my second case.
Sub-tending ccTLDs has two reasons to do so. In the oldschool cases of marketable TLDs (like .tv, the original one that went this route) they outsource the marketing and ops to someone who's good at it. Sometimes companies will host a ccTLD for free to get 'criticial infrastructure' IP address space. No idea if that's currently the case but it used to be.

The 'local expat' shit is wild. I've heard tales of a German dentist in a third world shithole doing a sideline of running DNS for the guv'mint. Good work if you can get it.

Also: The fuck is graf over on poast literally crying about us for? If someone's being a shitbag on there then fine but weeb needs to htfu.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Just remember that every second the farms gets DDoS'd, a seething tranny is losing some of their tugboat money.

 

[.iota.]

we fucking hate troons but particularly the kind of Nazi troon that Keffals is.

the quote:
"A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth."

the author:
joseph goebbels

 

[Sheep Virus]

To he fair, if KF went DarkWeb and I had to use Tor to access it I probably would, but how many others will? The utility of the site for free information is proportional to the critical mass of users in diverse positions and countries and autistic Shakespeare Monkey Typing Power. If it gets down to 2000 power users on an unindexed, unreachable, unsearchable dark site, it will wither away and become a circlejerk.

I‘d never used TOR until this kicked off and I‘ve visited KF more since it kicked off than ever before. (For some reason the site is blocked if I try to use the TOR option in Brave.)

A whole lot more people have heard of KF due to all the free publicity and there will be a fair proportion curious enough to want to find out more and sooner or later make their way here.

It‘s staggering the lengths they are still going to in order to isolate Josh and block access to the site though. More people, politicians especially, need to wake up and realise that KF is the canary in the coalmine.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Null is a goddamn hero, and I don't envy him one bit. What he is going through is exactly why I cucked out during my own admittedly disastrous attempt to be a free speech absolutist provider. It's a Sisyphian task. To be willing to sacrifice your entire life and go into exile to give a platform to ideas you may even disagree with is something any American should admire.

The whackamole with IPs is bad, but if countries like Iceland and Australia start denying service for censorship reasons it's worse. Still there could even be a higher level of bad, which would be if they petition ICANN (or just their sympathizers on the inside) to not allow Kiwifarms or any site Null makes to exist.

At that point it's game over. We're in Fahrenheit 451 for free information at that point.

IMO if Kiwifarms is permabanned, then I want to see it right at the very top and have the IPs ripped off the face of the internet. I want to see them have to go to the greatest lengths possible to destroy this site, which according to Null would change the game for internet censorship forever.

It's too bad that even if they had to set such an awful precedent, normies wouldn't care. Just like normies didn't care when Daily Stormer got booted from Cloudflare (which was pretty insane to hear when it happened). Or when weev got unpersoned (IIRC he was the first). No one cares because the media has tarred them as crude, evil websites and people. Hell, normies didn't even care when Alex Jones, who's a lot more adjacent to the mainstream right, got unpersoned.

When the site was Tor-only we had more users on than we currently do at the time of me making this post.

Because the DDoS attacks are an absolute pain in the ass and a lot of people aren't bothering. They even make TOR a bitch to go deal with.

 

[TheSkoomer]

Because the DDoS attacks are an absolute pain in the ass and a lot of people aren't bothering. They even make TOR a bitch to go deal with.

And the captcha is the icing on the cake.

Has it occurred to anyone that the trannies aren't trying to get us banned from recaptcha,
because the fastest way to shut down a Tor site is recaptcha itself. A percentage of the users just won't bother with it.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Imagine that the sub forum that is posing the most danger this site has been going through since it's inception is not the Article and News or Happenings but one about a Troon sponsoring a website supplying HRT to minors.