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- Sep 22, 2021
The last Marvel properties I saw anyone genuinely give a shit about were WandaVision and Falcon and Winter Soldier. While WV had good word of mouth until it wrapped up, I believe FAWS was the "Spiderman: No Way Home" of the two shows. Viewers were pleasantly surprised by what they got from WV but what people really cared about was seeing the two sidekicks of one of the most beloved OG characters have a Cap and the Winter Soldier 2.
Disney dropped the ball. They didn't check the right boxes for the woke, muddied the waters for comic book and MCU fans by pandering too much, and seemingly failed to deliver anything on the level of even Daredevil if the lack of persistent buzz is anything to go by.
TL;DR: Marvel have failed to give casuals any reason to give a fuck this year, bloating the MCU to the size and webbed levels of actual comic books, and we all know how the general population feels about those. They have failed to generate a character with popularity at the levels of Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Black Widow, and even Thor. The closest contenders, Starlord and Black Panther, are stranded with a team and Chris Pratt or a cast of who-cares. Sooner than later, everyone is going to go back to waxing poetic about "the good old days" and the MCU will be left in the dust.
The story's over, you cunts. Just make television shows like DC and leave the big screen alone. Or stop wasting everyone's time and do some X-Men shit.
Disney dropped the ball. They didn't check the right boxes for the woke, muddied the waters for comic book and MCU fans by pandering too much, and seemingly failed to deliver anything on the level of even Daredevil if the lack of persistent buzz is anything to go by.
These two characters had direct connections to Captain America and the rest of the Avengers. They sit in the sweet spot that Cap and to a lesser degree Iron Man enjoyed where they were souped-up and had enough gadgets to take on threats larger than things Hawkeye and Widow could alone (at least in the Avengers 1 era), while still not being so strong people would ask why they weren't taking care of larger issues. They were both in line to be successors - the big daddies in the newest Marvel phase, directly through Captain America.
But the biggest factor was people fucking cared about them. And despite being in the universe for so long, one could easily argue there was more to do with them. Instead of giving these two a new Captain America trilogy (or just a Falcon trilogy for those brownie points; Bucky as a sidekick would still work), they relegated them to television and gave them a boring show.
They have now taken two of their mightiest heroes and put them on TV. After Coulson and the Netflix cast never graduating, I'm sure even casual fans realize this means they're not "as important" as film characters anymore. While Wanda and Vision can skirt around this because their powers are off the charts, Bucky and Sam are just two dudes with some tech. This solidifies their place as B-tier in the grand scheme of the new phase.
Who does get to keep their movies? Black Widow, too many years and a death too late. Random Chinese guy outta butt fuck nowhere. Random group of not X-Men outta butt fuck nowhere. Fucking Spiderman, who's had 2 movies prior and appearances elsewhere in the MCU. Doctor Strange, wizard Tony Stark on his second film.
You know who else got shows? Loki doing who the fuck cares and fucking HAWKEYE. You know, the character who's been in the Avengers since the first film but couldn't even get a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie while the bloody Wasp got a co-title for Ant Man's sequels. The only notable characters left are Black Panther('s entourage) and Thor (feat. the Guardians), who don't get their movies until 2022. Black Panther tragically won't even be in his own damn film while Thor is having a cast party so large and colorfully diverse it's undoubtable he's going to be sidelined to Valhalla and back.
Why the fuck should anyone care about Phase 4 when it's started on the backs of randos and the meat of it is filled with even more randos?
2021 was the year Marvel should have spent giving the goods. You start big, bring people in again. You do not give them bait, you hook them. There are no hooks here. They faltered with the TV shows and the BW movie. Everything going forward is going to be disregarded as all the Netflix shows outside of Daredevil and Agents of Shield filler, also known as the shit you don't have to watch.
Outside of Spiderman and maybe Doctor Strange who could outperform his last film, it's all downhill from here. I don't see Thor outperforming his last movie spectacularly. Black Panther is going to be coming out in a completely different social landscape and unless the film dares to tackle actual points and not just pander to the puhwah, it's not doing bangers—definitely not to the tune of a couple billion. The Marvels is a joke. Guardians... eh, busy as usual and could be solid but not spectacular. Ant-Man is Ant-Man.
After all of that.... there still isn't an Avengers movie. Or a New Avengers. Or a solid team outside of the Guardians. Because everyone's movie is about their own teams and universes and worlds; it's starting to feel less and less like one cohesive universe (something Marvel was already struggling with). There is no 'heart' or 'core' to this story anymore. Before it was clear: Iron Man, Captain America, Thor were the big boys, then there was Hulk, Black Widow and Hawkeye as support. The former got movies to flesh shit out, the rest popped up when the gang got together. And then it was team Iron Man vs. team Captain America with everyone else playing second fiddle. And then it was Iron Man and Captain America: the last hurrah! with all of the friends they made along the way. And Thanos getting the title of probably the only memorable villain in MCU history.
Before Chadwick's passing, The Trio was likely going to be Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Doctor Strange. But now? Who the hell knows because not even Black Panther carried his own film - which would have been fine if either of the others were as strong a force as Tony Stark to begin with. Brie Farcing needs girl power back-up because no one likes her, Doctor Strange is too OP to be a universe regular, and anyone they could pull from Wakanda is a wet fart on arrival and a sad reminder of what's been lost.
But the biggest factor was people fucking cared about them. And despite being in the universe for so long, one could easily argue there was more to do with them. Instead of giving these two a new Captain America trilogy (or just a Falcon trilogy for those brownie points; Bucky as a sidekick would still work), they relegated them to television and gave them a boring show.
They have now taken two of their mightiest heroes and put them on TV. After Coulson and the Netflix cast never graduating, I'm sure even casual fans realize this means they're not "as important" as film characters anymore. While Wanda and Vision can skirt around this because their powers are off the charts, Bucky and Sam are just two dudes with some tech. This solidifies their place as B-tier in the grand scheme of the new phase.
Who does get to keep their movies? Black Widow, too many years and a death too late. Random Chinese guy outta butt fuck nowhere. Random group of not X-Men outta butt fuck nowhere. Fucking Spiderman, who's had 2 movies prior and appearances elsewhere in the MCU. Doctor Strange, wizard Tony Stark on his second film.
You know who else got shows? Loki doing who the fuck cares and fucking HAWKEYE. You know, the character who's been in the Avengers since the first film but couldn't even get a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie while the bloody Wasp got a co-title for Ant Man's sequels. The only notable characters left are Black Panther('s entourage) and Thor (feat. the Guardians), who don't get their movies until 2022. Black Panther tragically won't even be in his own damn film while Thor is having a cast party so large and colorfully diverse it's undoubtable he's going to be sidelined to Valhalla and back.
Why the fuck should anyone care about Phase 4 when it's started on the backs of randos and the meat of it is filled with even more randos?
2021 was the year Marvel should have spent giving the goods. You start big, bring people in again. You do not give them bait, you hook them. There are no hooks here. They faltered with the TV shows and the BW movie. Everything going forward is going to be disregarded as all the Netflix shows outside of Daredevil and Agents of Shield filler, also known as the shit you don't have to watch.
Outside of Spiderman and maybe Doctor Strange who could outperform his last film, it's all downhill from here. I don't see Thor outperforming his last movie spectacularly. Black Panther is going to be coming out in a completely different social landscape and unless the film dares to tackle actual points and not just pander to the puhwah, it's not doing bangers—definitely not to the tune of a couple billion. The Marvels is a joke. Guardians... eh, busy as usual and could be solid but not spectacular. Ant-Man is Ant-Man.
After all of that.... there still isn't an Avengers movie. Or a New Avengers. Or a solid team outside of the Guardians. Because everyone's movie is about their own teams and universes and worlds; it's starting to feel less and less like one cohesive universe (something Marvel was already struggling with). There is no 'heart' or 'core' to this story anymore. Before it was clear: Iron Man, Captain America, Thor were the big boys, then there was Hulk, Black Widow and Hawkeye as support. The former got movies to flesh shit out, the rest popped up when the gang got together. And then it was team Iron Man vs. team Captain America with everyone else playing second fiddle. And then it was Iron Man and Captain America: the last hurrah! with all of the friends they made along the way. And Thanos getting the title of probably the only memorable villain in MCU history.
Before Chadwick's passing, The Trio was likely going to be Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Doctor Strange. But now? Who the hell knows because not even Black Panther carried his own film - which would have been fine if either of the others were as strong a force as Tony Stark to begin with. Brie Farcing needs girl power back-up because no one likes her, Doctor Strange is too OP to be a universe regular, and anyone they could pull from Wakanda is a wet fart on arrival and a sad reminder of what's been lost.
TL;DR: Marvel have failed to give casuals any reason to give a fuck this year, bloating the MCU to the size and webbed levels of actual comic books, and we all know how the general population feels about those. They have failed to generate a character with popularity at the levels of Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Black Widow, and even Thor. The closest contenders, Starlord and Black Panther, are stranded with a team and Chris Pratt or a cast of who-cares. Sooner than later, everyone is going to go back to waxing poetic about "the good old days" and the MCU will be left in the dust.
The story's over, you cunts. Just make television shows like DC and leave the big screen alone. Or stop wasting everyone's time and do some X-Men shit.
