Opinion The Fall Of Reddit: Why It’s Quickly Declining into Chaos - “You have been banned for wrongthink”

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Reddit is dead.

At least artistically and creatively speaking.

What started as a bastion of independent thought, Reddit has slowly devolved into a den of groupthink, censorship, and corporate greed.

“It’s true, both the government and private companies can censor stuff. But private companies are a little bit scarier because they have no constitution to answer to, they’re not elected really — all the protections we’ve built up against government tyranny don’t exist for corporate tyranny.
— Aaron Swartz, co-Founder of Reddit

There are three fundamental problems with Reddit:

  1. Censorship
  2. Moderator Abuse
  3. Corporate Greed
But first, you should understand that the history of Reddit doomed it from the start.

The Secret History of Reddit​

Reddit was launched in June 2005 by two 22-year-old graduates from the University of Virginia, Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian. The site was so small that the two co-founders had to spam links just to make Reddit seem active.

Later that year the Reddit team made arguably the most important decision of their lives: they hired a new co-founder, Aaron Swartz.

If you don’t know who Aaron Swartz was, he was a young prodigy and computer genius who, among other things, helped create RSS.

He was also an outspoken activist for free speech and open information, which made him a lot of enemies in high places.

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Eventually, Aaron left Reddit after they were bought by Conde Nast (owner of Wired Magazine), but this is when he became a complete revolutionary.

Aaron became something of a Wiki Leaks-style journ*list leaking high-level secrets against corporate power. He released countless documents including the most damaging that law professors at Stanford were receiving lobbying money from oil companies such as Exxon Mobile.

Shortly after, the FBI began monitoring Aaron Swartz and he was arrested for downloading academic journals from MIT in an attempt to make them freely available online.

They threw the book at Aaron by fining him over a million dollars, charging him with 13 felonies, and giving him a 35-year prison sentence. This was seen as an act of pure revenge by the government and because of it, Aaron Swartz took his own life at the age of 26.

“I don’t want to be happy. I just want to change the world.” — Aaron Swartz
And you know what Reddit did? They scrubbed Aaron Swartz’s name from their history. If you go to the “about” page on Reddit, it makes no mention of him whatsoever.

Aaron Swartz should be a martyr, instead, he’s been erased.

It Got Worse: Censorship​

After the death of Aaron Swartz, things only got worse for Reddit.

Newly appointed CEO Ellen Pao made an announcement, and I quote, that “Reddit is not a platform for free speech.”

This was the first step in what would be mass censorship on the platform.

In the years that followed Reddit banned over 7000 subreddits left and right in a never-ending stream of censorship. But the most controversial censorship occurred after the Orlando nightclub shooting.

After the shooting, the subreddit /r/news became a hub for people to discuss the event and share news articles. However, the mods of /r/news had a very different idea.

They began mass-deleting any posts that criticized Islam or mentioned the shooter’s motive of radical Islamic terrorism. They also banned anyone who spoke out against this censorship. Mods became power-hungry dictators, erasing anyone who dared to challenge them.

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Reddit’s Mods Are Mall Cops Slowly Killing the Platform​

Moderators on Reddit are like hall monitors who bust you for being late two seconds after the bell rang. They are the kids that ask for more homework They’re petty, they’re annoying, and they have too much power.

The mod system is completely volunteer-based which means that anyone can become a mod without any qualifications.

One of my favorite posts on Reddit had this to say about moderators:

“Mods are basically unpaid mall cops for reddit… except even mall cops know they are a joke. I think Reddit counts on the fact there are enough lonely losers out there who will moderate the site for free in exchange for the illusion of authority. These are shameful, powerless, and deeply troubled people looking to exert a measure of power anyway they can — the same kind of people who would become abusive police officers and border agents if they weren’t already so monstrously overweight.”

And because moderators are volunteer-based, they can be bribed. In fact, there have been numerous cases of mods being bribed by companies to censor certain topics or ban competing subreddits.

(Bribery taking place here, here, and here

Here is a short list of the worst most corruptable mods on Reddit:

  • /u/awkwardtheturtle (mod of multiple subreddits) was caught pinning his own posts to the top of subreddits for popularity and called all critics against him incels for no apparent reason.
  • /u/gallowboob (mod of /r/ relationship advice) would shill his friend’s marketing companies on the front page and would ban any account criticizing him.

And Finally, Corporate Greed​

I only recently found out that Ghislaine Maxwell, wife to Jeffery Epstein, ran one of the most powerful Reddit accounts on the website. In fact, it was the eighth-most popular account by karma on Reddit.

I won’t get into the implications of that — as it could be an article on its own — but it's only one case of elites having massive power on Reddit.

The bigger issue is that Reddit has several competing corporate interests.

One of them is a Chinese tech giant called Tencent which made a $150 million investment in Reddit. Tencent is the world’s biggest video game company and is notorious for selling its user’s information.

Another big investor is Sequoia Capital who was found earlier this year to be investing in corrupt companies responsible for fraudulent practices.

All of these investments have one thing in common: they’ve made the website worse for users. Now — just as I wrote about YouTube — Reddit is tailored for a better corporate experience, not a better user experience.

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Final Thoughts​

Reddit was the first social media platform I fell in love with. It’s where I found my start as a writer and it’s helped me procrastinate many late-night essays.

But it’s time to go.

It’s become a shell of its former self and something that Aaron Swartz would not be proud of. And even though Reddit is pretty much a corporate propaganda machine the users still think it’s a secret club for intellectual dynamos that “fucking love science.”

No matter what you believe in, wisdom isn’t achieved living inside a bubble of utopian ideals.

Although some of my favorite online communities are on Reddit like /r/FoodNYC or /r/OnePunchMan, for the most part, I think it’s time to move on.

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Hopefully (and get those optimistic ratings ready to go) we see a refragmenting of the Internet. Before the whole thing became some sanitised network of corporate controlled monoliths it was so much better. If the likes of Reddit, "Meta", Twitter started to die hopefully people would be smarter than just recreating the whole thing with some new corporate overlord.
We have antitrust laws and we should be using them. We need a fragmentation of a lot of structures. Lots of things are too centralised and too big. More competitive smaller contributors are better for all.
I read a great article in new scientist a few years ago about how history cycles through stages of smaller structures coalescing to form larger empires and then larger empires fragment to be smaller structures. I can’t find it and I wish I’d bookmarked it.
 
Is that IPO still going to happen or not? They only thing more embarrassing than wasting money on Reddit Gold is Reddit stock.
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today if you google anything mainstream, you most likely get as results reddit/fb/wikipedia/some mainstream news sites. No small/independent websites get promoted by search engines anymore, all of internet gets routed to couple dozens of sources
 
No user-generated content site can be both profitable and free (in the sense of free speech). The material interest the company running it has to stamp down on controversy (especially on sites that are free, where ad-revenue and data-gathering are the profit generators) will always run towards narrowing the window of acceptable thoughts to prevent scandal. The mod-tyranny is more reddit specific as a failure, but anyone believing you can bridge that divide without some sort of NGO or opensource funding and governance is wrong.
 
No user-generated content site can be both profitable and free (in the sense of free speech). The material interest the company running it has to stamp down on controversy (especially on sites that are free, where ad-revenue and data-gathering are the profit generators) will always run towards narrowing the window of acceptable thoughts to prevent scandal. The mod-tyranny is more reddit specific as a failure, but anyone believing you can bridge that divide without some sort of NGO or opensource funding and governance is wrong.
Is this a fancy way of saying banning jailbait was the beginning of the end?
 
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Reddit reminds me a lot of Vampire Freaks when they had their own social networking website. Back then members can become mods to enforce the rules of the site. However, most of them abused their position and the site went downhill and no longer exists except as a clothing store. Wouldn't surprise me Reddit would follow if mods keep abusing their power.
Goddamn what a throwback. If that shithole was still as populated as it was back during the emo fad years, this site would have to have an entire forum just to contain the autism that emanated. Most of it was standard tier teenager retardation but occasionally you'd find a genuine adult lolcow tier psycho who'd genuinely think they drink blood etc.
 
Reddit sucks. I don’t understand why someone would care about Reddit gold and upvotes.
Is that IPO still going to happen or not? They only thing more embarrassing than wasting money on Reddit Gold is Reddit stock.
What if we got money by shorting Reddit. Would that be based?
So not only does China manufacture garbage products, they're also sensitive faggots about it.
Nuh oh. I’ll take my six cents now please.
If Biden really cares about winning, he’d draft these “men” and send them to the front lines.
 
Aaron became something of a Wiki Leaks-style journ*list leaking high-level secrets against corporate power.
Not censored in the archive. OP using some plug-in to mark it journalist as a dirty word?

Aaron Swartz and he was arrested for downloading academic journals from MIT in an attempt to make them freely available online.
Scihub. Probably an unrelated project, but useful to know about if anyone likes that kind of thing.

It Got Worse: Censorship​

Newly appointed CEO Ellen Pao made an announcement, and I quote, that “Reddit is not a platform for free speech.”
How the fuck do you mention Pao and Censorship and not the NY Times article?

Also not mentioned
  • Why you should use RSS
  • Super mods (or whatever the word is for mods with dozens of subreddits)
  • Spez stealth editing user's posts without the edit asterisk
  • Shadowbanning
  • Gamergate
  • The fappening and in particular how it was permitted for just as long as people were buying gilded stickers
Overall a surprising article.

I feel like it's trying to say something important but it refuses to really go full autism on it.
 
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Goddamn what a throwback. If that shithole was still as populated as it was back during the emo fad years, this site would have to have an entire forum just to contain the autism that emanated. Most of it was standard tier teenager retardation but occasionally you'd find a genuine adult lolcow tier psycho who'd genuinely think they drink blood etc.
It's amazing how much the internet has changed in such a short amount of time. It's hard to believe that just a few years ago, sites like this one were thriving with activity and now they're practically ghost towns. It really makes you wonder where everyone went and what they're doing now.

I have to agree with you, it is pretty incredible how much things can change in such a short period of time. The world wide web seems to be ever-evolving and growing at an exponential rate. Who knows what new trends or technologies will come along next that will completely change the way we use the internet? As for where all the users from those old forums went, who knows! Maybe some moved on to other interests, maybe some got too busy with life offline, or maybe some found other online communities more suited to their needs. Whatever the reason, it's certainly sad to see so many once active forum boards become abandoned over time :(
 
It's amazing how much the internet has changed in such a short amount of time. It's hard to believe that just a few years ago, sites like this one were thriving with activity and now they're practically ghost towns. It really makes you wonder where everyone went and what they're doing now.

I have to agree with you, it is pretty incredible how much things can change in such a short period of time. The world wide web seems to be ever-evolving and growing at an exponential rate. Who knows what new trends or technologies will come along next that will completely change the way we use the internet? As for where all the users from those old forums went, who knows! Maybe some moved on to other interests, maybe some got too busy with life offline, or maybe some found other online communities more suited to their needs. Whatever the reason, it's certainly sad to see so many once active forum boards become abandoned over time :(
Everyone is on social media now. Idiots.
 
It's a cyst, and if it pops, the infection floods everywhere. When AOL got access to the broader internet it was awful. When Livejournal and Tumblr died, we wound up with the troon epidemic. You think those were bad? Imagine Reddit collapsing.


But the Chicoms have more than enough time and money to pour into this soul-destroying psyop so it will stay, I think.
 
all the protections we’ve built up against government tyranny don’t exist for corporate tyranny.
He was right. I know I’ve said this before but when the first blade runner came out, that corporate tyranny thing was genuinely shocking. By the time the sequel came out, it had lost its edge because we are pretty much there already. Corporate overreach and power is one of the largest and worst issues we face today.
The merging of corporate and state IS the facism these people screech about, yet they support it rabidly. ten cent for example is an arm of the CCP. All large companies in china are.

The problem is that the state was typically always stronger than corporate overreach. In the feudal era, if merchant companies dared defy the state, they were just murdered. If they got too powerful, governments shut them down. What we have is new, relatively speaking. Time has taken away violence to the answer of overreach as well as eroded protections between the private individual and the corporation. Insane interest rates, buying up homes and land....all this shit, just constantly ripped away.

What good is the first amendment if you have fucking nowhere to say anything except shout it to five people on the street? What good is individual expression if anything uncomfortable or slightly controversial gets you banned? How can you fund art when banks and credit card companies take away any payment methods at a whim because they can?

The amount of corporate tyranny we live under is absolutely insane. The government is prevented from policing us, but they can circumvent that easily through corporate entities. Not to mention for-profit industries like collecting petty fines from extremely poor people who get into a permeant debt spiral. Or for-profit prisons which get money for the more inmates they house (which totes doesn't lead to corruption at all).

Now we have corporations paying for people to get an abortion so they can work even more. This shit is so blatantly dystopian and unbelievable. Corporations buying single family homes to turn people into eternal renters, student loans to turn people into debt slaves. Pinning you under the system so you can never get out from under.

And when they print 20 trillion and give it to themselves, never circulating or spending it or burning it off and inflation skyrockets, they blame us. "Oh, you're saving too much. Employment is too high. Workers are getting paid too much." How about we just take capital that we gave out back and fucking burn it. Just eliminate it from the money supply. Oh sorry, that's not an option because wealthy people don't have to sacrifice a single fucking thing in this country. So we get: (1 Increased interest rates which increases debt and prevents lending. 2) Lowered wages. 3) Increased taxes (on the poor obviously) and 4) Massive unemployment to stop money from entering the system.

Just don't touch those job creators you know. This country is a fucking joke.
 
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