The Final Fantasy Thread

Again, all I see with tifa’s model is photogrammetry (mocap) likely based on an irl glamor model
 
Tanner Glass said:
FFXIV Sperging
Everything you've done in FFXIV has made you the "Warrior of Light" because you are constantly tying to stop Darkness from overtaking the world but you aren't amazingly successful at it - so light and dark remain in balance. The "new" world is actually a world where the "Warriors of Light" were too good so Light completely controls the land and has nearly eradicated all life.

The warriors of light from that world tried to ally with the forces of darkness to try and restore the balance but were unsuccessful primarily because the forces of darkness are dicks. They were then brought to our world by the forces of darkness to try and kill you and they are unsuccessful at that. At the end of the Arc, they are sent back to thier world by Hydalen, who pledges to try and help them restore their world. She sends Minfilia there also. This is alleged to be the shard you are now going to in Shadowbringers and why you're being referred to as a "Warrior of Darkness", because the light is what's destroying that world.
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I do wonder if eventually we'll get to that point in our world, the story seems to be implying that we're steadily getting too powerful so will we eventually bring the same tragedy to our world? With how the Garleans are being set up, if we win against them have we effectively done the same thing I think because the only way to defeat the Garlean Empire and bring peace is if we basically destroy everything related to Darkness. This means Darkness effectively ends right? Basically no one, except the Scions, know about the whole balance between light and dark stuff right?

So that means we're leading a war in our world that could call upon a flood of light and most the players involved know nothing about it. I really do wonder how they'll resolve that detail as we work to fight the Garlean Empire and I hope they explain exactly how hard the 1st won against its Darkness because to me we're winning way too much in our world that we should have overthrown the balance at some point.
 
Zeke Von Genbu said:
Spergy reply with spoilers for the entire story.

I do wonder if eventually we'll get to that point in our world, the story seems to be implying that we're steadily getting too powerful so will we eventually bring the same tragedy to our world? With how the Garleans are being set up, if we win against them have we effectively done the same thing I think because the only way to defeat the Garlean Empire and bring peace is if we basically destroy everything related to Darkness. This means Darkness effectively ends right? Basically no one, except the Scions, know about the whole balance between light and dark stuff right?

So that means we're leading a war in our world that could call upon a flood of light and most the players involved know nothing about it. I really do wonder how they'll resolve that detail as we work to fight the Garlean Empire and I hope they explain exactly how hard the 1st won against its Darkness because to me we're winning way too much in our world that we should have overthrown the balance at some point.
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We don't know until Shadowbringer but...

It's likely why we're pulled out of our world during the Garlean conflict - as we've already perma killed a number of Ascians as well as a large number of Garlean generals and heroes (Gaius and Nero now working with us, also Ashai, Tsukyumi, Zenos, and Frodola) means we're headed that way.

You actually get a taste of the "first" Warriors of Light as they frequently destroy primals before you arrive on scene several times during their arc. They were basically going around to beast tribes, causing enough trouble where they would summon a primal and then would just kill the primal in front of them to sow despair.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
Overall it looks pretty cool but I'm not so sure about having Sephiroth appear so early in the game. Part of what made his sudden appearance so memorable was that he was built up in a way; characters mentioned Sephiroth as being someone important but clearly wasn't around anymore, but it was also subtle enough to where it could just be considered world-building rather than foreshadowing. Not to mention it calls into question Cloud's mental state from close to the start where in the original the player gradually realized something wasn't right with him. This is a trailer so I'm sure it won't be indicative of the final game, but even so it is a change I'm not fully onboard with.
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I'm a little skeptical about Sepiroth too. I assumed in the last trailer that Sepiroth was going to show up and and voice all the scenes from the original that were white text on a black screen but it seems to be more then that since he is using Zack's lines to torment Cloud here. I guess they think they don't need to wait for a Sephiroth reveal since everyone including people that never played ff7 knows him at this point.

I liked that we saw a couple of the Shinra board members for a second. I want to see if they are still completely over the top to the point Reeve refers to them by the way they laugh and Palmer wanting lard in his tea.
 
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JektheDumbass said:
What celebrity voice actors? It's a cast composed entirely of literally whos.

I'm disappointed in Tifa's boobs being smaller. Not enough to get upset about it though.
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They're all well known mostly for Teen Wolf. That fandom is insane and its totally going to infest the FF fandom and causea massive shitshow.
 
Apparently the FF7 Remake in March is just the Midgar stuff. That's like 15% of the entire game. How many more decades will this remake take to finish?
 
nosemouth said:
Apparently the FF7 Remake in March is just the Midgar stuff. That's like 15% of the entire game. How many more decades will this remake take to finish?
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i'm going with at least 7 personally. We'll have FF7RE on a different system every installment.
 
Qi Meng Dealer said:
Virgins with rage, indeed. Square was going for more realism with the remake, so it kinda stands to reason that the lady who trains in martial arts wouldn't actually have much fat to stuff in her tits (it's not common to find a top-tier big-tittied MMA female fighter in the real world). At least that's how I see it. And it's not like she turned totally flat. There's plenty of fan art out there of Tifa if they want to beat their meat to a big-tits version of Tifa. Or they can just wait for some enterprising modder to replace the model with a "fuller" version with the PC version that's sure to come down the line.

Also, Square must be doing something right with the remake if Tifa's tits is the biggest complain spergs have with the game so far.
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She still has tiny stick arms with no muscle tone. Cloud's hair is still dumb. Barret is still fuckhuge (although honestly I wish he was fuckhuger). Final Fantasy does not excel at realism.

Non Tifa's tifas related criticisms:

Cutting the game into multiple episodes because it's too big to adapt in one go...then rewriting to add more content? Milking a cash cow. Aeris and Tifa appear to have switched personalities in this just like in every fanon or spinoff since the original release. Showing Sephiroth this early is bullshit, ruins the dramatic tension of his reveal, and means that it's gonna likely be a full power wank. Remember that in the original game Sephiroth doesn't even remember Cloud when they first meet again.
 
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Bean Cheese said:
No background shots, hope they do some upscaling or something
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Don't get your hopes up. You'd think that in this day and age they could re-render them into a higher resolution without much trouble, even if meant shots being composed for 4:3 screens.
I wonder if it based on the PC port?

I would have liked it if in the FF7 Remake trailer Tifa shows up and just has a giant rack but it's not the focus of any shot, highlighted in any way, show her from the neck up during the introduction, cut to legs kicking and then just a couple of frames here and there from a zoomed combat scene where it looks like... I wonder what Itagaki is doing these days, it would be his kind of trolling.
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Don't get your hopes up. You'd think that in this day and age they could re-render them into a higher resolution without much trouble, even if meant shots being composed for 4:3 screens.
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There are ways to make the pre-rendered backgrounds look better without having to pour a lot of effort into re-rendering everything. Modders have figured out how to make AI automatically upscale and enhance the backgrounds to a much higher resolution, and the results are damn impressive.

This is a beta graphics mod that showcases this. Even though this is a beta, it still looks good. The backgrounds become a lot cleaner looking and not nearly as blurry.

It bears emphasizing modders figured out how to do this while Square Enix just re-releases the original games at higher resolutions at the expense of the pre-rendered backgrounds looking worse.
 
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Baldur's Gait said:
There are ways to make the pre-rendered backgrounds look better without having to pour a lot of effort into re-rendering everything. Modders have figured out how to make AI automatically upscale and enhance the backgrounds to a much higher resolution, and the results are damn impressive.

This is a beta graphics mod that showcases this. Even though this is a beta, it still looks good. The backgrounds become a lot cleaner looking and not nearly as blurry.

It bears emphasizing modders figured out how to do this while Square Enix just re-releases the original games at higher resolutions at the expense of the pre-rendered backgrounds looking worse.
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I've seen that and it's pretty cool, but Square developing/doing image reconstruction seems a bit backwards when they probably have the original files stashed somewhere. It would still take work and they would have to drag out a lot of old SGI machines to access them, but it's still possible.

edit: now that I think about it there should have been higher-res assets of everything at some point, those were then reworked and compressed down into the final images seen in the game.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
I've seen that and it's pretty cool, but Square doing image reconstruction seems a bit backwards when they probably have the original files stashed somewhere. It would still take work and they would have to drag out a lot of old SGI machines to access them, but it's still possible.
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They likely don't. Square's developed a reputation for losing the source code for the majority of their games, which is why they had to rebuild Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy X, and Final Fantasy VIII from the ground up when they decided to re-release them. Even with the games they have the source code for, they probably don't have the original images; FF9 for example has the original source code, but the original high-res images are long gone.
 
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Baldur's Gait said:
which is why they had to rebuild ... Final Fantasy VIII from the ground up
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I've been thinking about that. Eidos ported the game to PC and it wasn't the standard emulation job so they had the source code at some point, both to the PS1 version and the PC version that they developed. And they're not people that throw everything away when a project is done. Square-Enix now owns Eidos.

That's why I was wondering if this port/remake might be based on the PC-version/codebase.
 
The remaster of the one they announced at E3....didn't they lose the source code for that too?
 
Your Weird Fetish said:
Cutting the game into multiple episodes because it's too big to adapt in one go...then rewriting to add more content? jerking off a cash cow. Aeris and Tifa appear to have switched personalities in this just like in every fanon or spinoff since the original release. Showing Sephiroth this early is bullshit, ruins the dramatic tension of his reveal, and means that it's gonna likely be a full power wank. Remember that in the original game Sephiroth doesn't even remember Cloud when they first meet again.
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I agree with you in one sense, but considering the development costs of a AAA release these days, it makes sense. I mean remember MGSV, it was taking so long to complete without any returns they made MGS:GZ probably just to recoup some of the development costs. And when MGSV came out it was still underfinished despite the engine and what had been done polished to a mirror sheen. When major Japanese companies go AAA they usually aren't fucking around like with Anthem and such and "will just patch it later". So I can see why it makes financial sense to split FFVII into 3 or maybe even 4 parts. Especially if some have theorized is that they plan to pad out each game with more extended storylines in each area.

As for Tifas boobs, it's disappointing, but as with Tomb Raider, Tifas boobs have been going down since the 90's.

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