The Final Fantasy Thread

[Dr. Geronimo]

I think when they first decide to stop Shinra they hadn't gotten up to speed on the fact that Aeris' plan was still possible to enact but maybe I'm misremembering.

But even if Holy stops Meteor, does that really mean ONLY Holy can stop Meteor? And what if Holy doesn't work? I'd like more than one plan to stop the annihilation of all humanity. It just never really set right with me. I'd have liked more justification.

When has Final Fantasy ever been about more than one plan?

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

When has Final Fantasy ever been about more than one plan?

I guess I just hold 7 to a higher standard because it was the first video game I ever played that used stuff like "unreliable narrator" and an actually multilayered story. Blew dumb young me's mind.

But even then I was confused about why we were stealing all the huge materia.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

I guess I just hold 7 to a higher standard because it was the first video game I ever played that used stuff like "unreliable narrator" and an actually multilayered story. Blew dumb young me's mind.

But even then I was confused about why we were stealing all the huge materia.

I understand how you feel, but you give it too much credit. The reason you were grabbing the big materia was SHINRA MAN BAD. The honest answer though is that whatever plan Shinra has is probably a shit one that can make things worse, so it's better to stop them.

According to a wiki "Cid doesn't want Shinra to get their hands on the Huge Materia, massive concentrations of the planet's power, and wants them for their own use to fight Sephiroth. "

You could interpret that as 'lets get this shit and see if Bugenhagen can hook us up' but honestly this is the most thought I've ever put into FF7's story, so I don't fucking know.

This is all coming from a guy who's relatively pessimistic about the remake though. Everything about the intro cinematic rubs me the wrong way, from the jerking off One-Winged Angel to even the little shit like making Aerith scared for some reason. Most of it I think stems from my dislike of Nomura, but I seem to be a minority on that.

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

My one concern is that they might jong up the whole game with minigames. Kingdom hearts 3 was their last big game and the minigames were not as intrusive or annoying but they were still fairly prominent (BBS was the worst). I'm hoping that the requirements for completing them 100% don't involve bullshit that only 1% of the population can pull it off requirements. I know they showed stuff from Tifa's training and I'm just concerned that there will be far more minigames than before that will be entirely different genres unrelated to RPGs.

I mean the 100% requirements for KH3 were rather foriving as were Final Fantays 15's, but then you had past bullshit like Final Fantasy 10's chocobo racing which needed a time of Zero Minutes and Zero Seconds in order to win and get the trophy.

Then again The Final Fantasy 8 Remaster's trophy list for 100%ing the game was not bad at all. But then again FF9's trophy list was complete fucking murder.

FF9 was what broke me of even trying to do completionist/perfectionist runs of Final Fantasy games. Run through the entire game super fast, missing everything, to get one ridiculous ("Excalibur II", fucking really?) sword? Fuck that. Collecting 256 different card arrows in their garbage card game? Fuck that.

And yes, FF10's minigames were mostly terrible, except Blitzball, which I spent way too much time doing when I was supposed to be saving the world. That game where you control a chocobo that steers like a goddamn boat trying to dodge shit can fuck off. I did eventually beat it though, but it was incredibly frustrating and not worth it at all. Trying to catch butterflies that aren't actually where their sprite is on the screen is pretty terrible too, I never did finish that.

This is all coming from a guy who's relatively pessimistic about the remake though. Everything about the intro cinematic rubs me the wrong way, from the jerking off One-Winged Angel to even the little shit like making Aerith scared for some reason. Most of it I think stems from my dislike of Nomura, but I seem to be a minority on that.

I've been pretty pessimistic ever since finding out it was going to be an action RPG. A pity, FF7's dated graphics desperately cry out for a good remake and it looks like we won't get one. I'd rather play a SNES or Genesis game any day over some low-poly super-deformed bullshit; that's why I could never get into the FF3 or FF4 DS games.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

I understand how you feel, but you give it too much credit. The reason you were grabbing the big materia was SHINRA MAN BAD. The honest answer though is that whatever plan Shinra has is probably a shit one that can make things worse, so it's better to stop them.

Well that was my original point. That it was a poorly written part of the game. Ironically Shinra firing a giant fuck off magic cannon at Sephiroth ends up being the thing that lets the heroes save the world. Which just makes it stand out more.

This is all coming from a guy who's relatively pessimistic about the remake though. Everything about the intro cinematic rubs me the wrong way, from the jerking off One-Winged Angel to even the little shit like making Aerith scared for some reason. Most of it I think stems from my dislike of Nomura, but I seem to be a minority on that.

Being an FF7 fan that played FF7 makes you a minority now anyway. And yeah I really hope they don't do disney princess fanon Aeris. Real one was more fun even with the shit translation job.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

I've been pretty pessimistic ever since finding out it was going to be an action RPG. A pity, FF7's dated graphics desperately cry out for a good remake and it looks like we won't get one. I'd rather play a SNES or Genesis game any day over some low-poly super-deformed bullshit; that's why I could never get into the FF3 or FF4 DS games.

At this point I was only hype for the soundtrack, since FF7's OST is my favorite of them all, but from what little I've heard I'm already disappointed. Part of 7's charm was that electronic/industrial sound, and going full orchestra really kills it for me.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

The battle music sounds great as an orchestra in my opinion. But Mako Reactor, Shinra Corporation, and J-E-N-O-V-A should be synthesized as hell.

 

[Megaroad 2012]

I liked FFVII when the ending was ambiguous (does Holy wipe out humankind too???) and there was no Nomura driven "compilation" bullshit besides Crsis Core.

FFVII Remake has suddenly started to look like what the fans want/think and Advent Children and the like shows Nomura didn't really understand Cloud and the overall gist beyond what was cool or rather what looks cool.

I'm really dreading the grimy, grossness of Midgar getting toned down (if not outright gone) now if they toned down AVALANCHES antics. Living in shitty cities like NYC and Seattle and being in the less fortunate areas, Midgar really hits home for me especially for a game made by the Japanese in 1997 but now I feel we'll get the Disney idea of a den of inequity where it's just essentric weirdos in rags instead of "THIS GUY ARE SICK."

Autistic rant aside, I know I'll buy it because I'm sheep and for all I know it's actually gonna be a great game.

 

[GethN7]

I understand how you feel, but you give it too much credit. The reason you were grabbing the big materia was SHINRA MAN BAD. The honest answer though is that whatever plan Shinra has is probably a shit one that can make things worse, so it's better to stop them.

According to a wiki "Cid doesn't want Shinra to get their hands on the Huge Materia, massive concentrations of the planet's power, and wants them for their own use to fight Sephiroth. "

You could interpret that as 'lets get this shit and see if Bugenhagen can hook us up' but honestly this is the most thought I've ever put into FF7's story, so I don't fucking know.

This is all coming from a guy who's relatively pessimistic about the remake though. Everything about the intro cinematic rubs me the wrong way, from the jerking off One-Winged Angel to even the little shit like making Aerith scared for some reason. Most of it I think stems from my dislike of Nomura, but I seem to be a minority on that.

After playing it a few times and seeing the aftermath of a huge space rocket hitting METEOR and it showing that aside from knocking some pieces off (and they were still tethered to the main mass), the intended message was apparently "whatever Shinra is intended is doomed to fail". The game delivers it poorly, but that seems to be the gist of it, and considering all the dick things they do to get their hands on the Huge Materia, pissing them off seems like the smart thing to do.

At the same time, the Shinra game plan for resolving things seems to have some objectively good ideas. Firing the Materia Cannon at the final boss' hidey hole does remove the barrier around it and trying to stop that is so stupid even the heroes don't question the logic of using it per se, they just question that batshit loon Hojo's followup plans.

Disc 2 mainly suffered from the writers trying to justify the continued Shinra vs. AVALANCHE antagonism while still trying to make both sides not complete morons trying to figure out how to fix the METEOR issue, but they apparently weren't able to make better arguments aside from sheer spite of the other team most of the time for their direct confrontations.

 

[pipcome]

I think when they first decide to stop Shinra they hadn't gotten up to speed on the fact that Aeris' plan was still possible to enact but maybe I'm misremembering.

But even if Holy stops Meteor, does that really mean ONLY Holy can stop Meteor? And what if Holy doesn't work? I'd like more than one plan to stop the annihilation of all humanity. It just never really set right with me. I'd have liked more justification.

Holy alone did actually fail only combined with the lifestream was it strong enough.. in a weird way its even in the materia system dont know intentional or not
blue and green magic combined is even better than red summoning magic in the game lol headcanon

 

[Smug Chuckler]

I'd rather play a SNES or Genesis game any day over some low-poly super-deformed bullshit; that's why I could never get into the FF3 or FF4 DS games.

I am disappointed that the FF3 wonderswan remake didn't take off. The pixel art on the 16-bit NES remakes was really good.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

There's a really good hack of FF3 out there called "Maeson Mix." I paired it with the more literal translation and it's bueno. Won't work on an Everdrive though since it expands the ROM too much.

Final Fantasy III Maeson Mix

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And as for FF7, Aerith is a thot.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

There's a really good hack of FF3 out there called "Maeson Mix." I paired it with the more literal translation and it's bueno. Won't work on an Everdrive though since it expands the ROM too much.

Final Fantasy III Maeson Mix

Final Fantasy III Maeson Mix is a rom hack of, obviously, Final Fantasy III for the Famicom/NES.

www.romhacking.net

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And as for FF7, Aerith is a thot.

Giving up her “flower” for a single Gil that girl is a low down street hoe.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Giving up her “flower” for a single Gil that girl is a low down street hoe.

Also, let's not forget that she's totally into force femming Cloud.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Also, let's not forget that she's totally into force femming Cloud.

You just reminded me that they're gonna change the story enough that Tifa is gonna be a part of that too. Jesus Christ I wonder what they're gonna do to fuck that up.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

You just reminded me that they're gonna change the story enough that Tifa is gonna be a part of that too. Jesus Christ I wonder what they're gonna do to fuck that up.

$10 Cloud Alice Liddell costume DLC

 

[Shield Breaker]

I understand how you feel, but you give it too much credit. The reason you were grabbing the big materia was SHINRA MAN BAD. The honest answer though is that whatever plan Shinra has is probably a shit one that can make things worse, so it's better to stop them.

According to a wiki "Cid doesn't want Shinra to get their hands on the Huge Materia, massive concentrations of the planet's power, and wants them for their own use to fight Sephiroth. "

You could interpret that as 'lets get this shit and see if Bugenhagen can hook us up' but honestly this is the most thought I've ever put into FF7's story, so I don't fucking know.

This is all coming from a guy who's relatively pessimistic about the remake though. Everything about the intro cinematic rubs me the wrong way, from the jerking off One-Winged Angel to even the little shit like making Aerith scared for some reason. Most of it I think stems from my dislike of Nomura, but I seem to be a minority on that.

I took it to be her thinking it was the turks coming for her again.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Also, let's not forget that she's totally into force femming Cloud.

Cloud liked it. Tifa's so unassertive she might have too, it's hard to tell.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

I took it to be her thinking it was the turks coming for her again.

I thought of that but the trailers have spoiled that it's SPOOKY GHOSTS.

 

[Shield Breaker]

I thought of that but the trailers have spoiled that it's SPOOKY GHOSTS.

Are you sure that isn't from the train graveyard after Wal-Market?