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Then we're truly getting the worst of both worlds. They could at least have the decency to give us a complete shit show instead of half-assing it and trying to sweep the last 2 hours under the rug. I want Mecha President Shinra fighting Zombie Aerith at Cloud and Sephiroth's wedding, god damn it.
Nah I think everything is going to turn out fine. Kingdom hearts 3 was about as competent you could get with tying up 8 games that introduced a whole lot of other bullshit and really simplified the story points for the next game. Dragon Quest 11 was fine.

They're going to have alternate endings or What if? Scenarios more than likely. Everything is suggesting some type of Smaller game is coming in a compilation next with the OG HD release of the game(a new serial number number was put out for FF7 which has been digital only for the longest time) and it might be bundled with the rumored Crisis core HD remaster or FF8 HD. That's really not the worst thing in the world. The one thing about the FF7 Remake is that it hasn't been horrribly mismanaged like the three 13 games, 14's initial state, and 15. Things are actually going smoothly which hasn't happened since final fantasy 10 or 12.

People seem overall pleased with it as a whole.
 
Do they consider what's already happened not to be a radical deviation?

If they allow the players to CHOOSE to deviate at certain junctures or if certain character interactions or choices add up to a change in the story (like the rumors about the original game, like getting Aerith to live or getting Sephiroth by collecting garbage items and doing who knows what with them smh) then that would actually be pretty cool. But these things need equal consequences to be believable. There's a lot they could do going forward, but if the next games are anything like the first remake(reboot fanfic), then...; fort condor will be padding, Yuffie will be padding, Wutai will be padding, Nibbilheim will be padding, and... The Golden Saucer will just have three reskinned minigames from wall market/and Dyne will be a racist cunt. :sighduck:

I haven't beaten FFVIIR yet, but my impressions are this:
1) Dunkey did nuffin' wrong- he is the guy you need reviewing this game, because notice how he didn't critique the battle system really, and that's because they went in a fairly smart direction with it. The problems are mostly with the game design, and how the acting/story ends up being total anime tier. Few examples: Remember Heidegger from the first game, and how he was a looney toons bombastic fool who barrelled through headquarters and slugged underlings? Well now he's a stiff regent-like cackling piece of soggy cardboard, taking up TOO FUCKING MUCH screen time (and while I respect Dimaggio this wasn't the right call for him) and he just opines on how the cockroaches beneath him are worth nothing blah blah blah. If anything, Scarlet was over the top bitch and took up that role, and tits; I'm sorry to all the losers who wanted tits in this game, because YOU GOT'EM (I don't see where an accountant rolled over much equity in terms of cleavage in this game). But I digress (much like Heidegger)...

2) PICK a direction; the first game was driven by it's triumphs and limitations, in that it had to get the detail from diorama type worlds, which added to its mood and appeal. I see a lot of limitations of the PS4 in this game (framerate, load times) and the direction they went in visually was pretty spot on, but it doesn't allow for bombastic characters like in the first game (although Roche was pretty fucking looney toons and while being kind of over the top Nomura, I kind of like him and his psycho attitude). Like, either dial it down or amp it up to 11, because in the original you had these loony psycho people living without any law except for the soldiers patrolling in places, and you had weird black markets filled with human scum and you could tell a Korean barbecue chef that his meal tasted like shit! Most characters in remake were stiff, stiff, stiff, and while I like Aerith's voice, she's too saccharin and informative sounding (and yes the story element may just have her being overly optimistic because she has a 'bad feeling' all the time and she's a strong chosen one, but many characters are unnecessary and their voices are inconsequential). In the original there were serious moments in the midst of all of the pantomime and slapstick humor, and the serious moments possibly land as well as they do by not having voices. I think it could be as simple as that, because the characters aren't real looking and neither is the world they're in. But when we think about what a developed character is and what having character is, we're certainly not going to find all of them to be perfect or our favorite in any game. The original game wasn't like an a bad anime to me, where the character spews out whatever will drive the plot forward, but the new game is all about wasting your time with people you do not give a shit about (and it's not because you never saw them before). They show up, and you do a light quest chain and then they go away.
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fucking danny devito, every time!
I never really cared who these lackey sycophantic simps were, who all gravitated towards me like meteors to a fucking planet (see what I did there? wow), just to gimme a few paint by numbers activities (which are sometimes not optional) and waste my time.

3) Can't explore everything I feel since that would take forever, but the good things about this game are the battles, materia, some choices/twists, and visual identity of the world (that perpetual subsurface scattering or w/e that they use on all the pipes etc is very cool but reduces this game to 30 fps, and I can usually see that it's indeed 30 fps). They HAVE the look down, its just that this padded hallway simulator was confused with the type of quality that it wanted to deliver. Less is more, people will pay for it (just look at RE3 remake), and they spent all this time and money doing all the wrong things to expand this section of the game. Jesse and a few other things were alright, I think they wanted to add a ton of flavors to the meal when they should've made a decidedly poignant and curated meal with less ingredients. In terms of the amount you get, it's worth 60 dollars, but it's not a groundbreaking game. The original was though, because they went beyond prior standards and told a complete fleshed out story in an epic way for the time, with so much variety and freedom in battles and the world. This game is just souped up modern rpg with great graphics (at 30 fps) with fairly faithful recreation of much of the original and souped up to 11. If they really wanted it to be the same level of 'groundbreaking' that the original had, they would've had to do A LOT more, and probably wait for the ps5 to release it, and they would've had to go literal Uncharted 4 levels on the story and characters. hallways, rat quests and characters that waste my time on this planet can't be part of groundbreaking content.

tl semicolon dr -- Chadley can go fuck himself.

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Double posting because I have seen nobody mention this.

The body Sephiroth picks up is female after the jenova fight, it's also close to the dimensions of Aerith's biological mother.

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Now the aerith flashback is done in an entirely pre-rendered scene, it's not in engine. This means it's going to be much harder to pull models from, there's nothing from the pre-rendered stuff that's available because I've been scouring for the Ancients models when they walk into the Shinra museum and have that holographic movie play. When Hojo said he used every scrap of flesh and bone, it definitely alludes to female clones or at the very least re-animating her body in some capacity.

It also can't be jenova herself because that model is lacking a human head. Jenova also has much bigger boobies in this game.
Jenova has a head in this game. She had one in the tank too. This is just autistic theory crafting trying to get something meaningful out of meaningless anime dreck.
 
LOL you folks are still believing what these dopes are actually saying? Jesus, they'd sell you shit and you'd buy and eat it up if they told you it was chocolate.

"FFVIIR is going to be fine" - What game have they made since 2010 has been "fine"? I'm sure through all their mismanagement, multiple rewrites, staff changes, etc. that they finally got it all right.

As am I, there are overall more positives than negatives. The ending is still shit.

Fantastic. If only popular opinion of gamers actually fucking meant something these days.
 
Hard mode is a genuine challenge and you're going to need to have Barret act as the healer since he recharges the ATB the fastest and even faster with haste applied to him.
 
It would if they would stop paying for games just so they can bitch about them.
Agree and feels.

Doesn't apply to me though. I buy so few games anymore. Most of the time I am content to replay old games that are good; as opposed to buying a new game that is a riff on one aspect of an old game that was good, but still somehow ends up being mediocre and costs me 60 dollars if I'm lucky.
 
Agree and feels.

Doesn't apply to me though. I buy so few games anymore. Most of the time I am content to replay old games that are good; as opposed to buying a new game that is a riff on one aspect of an old game that was good, but still somehow ends up being mediocre and costs me 60 dollars if I'm lucky.
Same. I buy maybe one new game every few months and it's usually well researched.
 
As am I, there are overall more positives than negatives. The ending is still shit.
Agreed. I liked the game. I had fun.

Honestly, my biggest problem with this whole situation is that Square lied about, or at the very least, used intentionally vague language when they called this game a "remake". If they truly wanted to do something different and give FF7 some sort of "What if?" scenarios like what appears to be being foreshadowing in this first part, then they should've just been upfront about it.

Yeah, a portion of the fanbase would've been pissed, but I think a great of it would be less pissed than they are now considering they were lied to. Really, the best way to handle this would've been to tell the truth, and then say that all these "What ifs?" weren't canon, and that they were just for fun.

I personally wouldn't have had a problem with it. I think an idea like that sounds fun. But instead, they lied, and now have gotten themselves in a way bigger mess than they ever had to have gotten into.
 
Honestly, my biggest problem with this whole situation is that Square lied about, or at the very least, used intentionally vague language when they called this game a "remake".
I think it was more they used vague language and their intention was to call the other games something like Rebirth (after Jenova Birth on the ship, since this will be the second time she's shown up) and Reunion (all the Sephiroth clones moseying on over to Sephiroth).
 

Interesting details here.

1: Apparently it fell hard in the second week of sales, into the midst of evergreen products. It's just ahead of Luigi's Mansion 3 (which released 6 months ago, remember.)
2: The fact that they don't even know how many more parts they need, what's going to be DLC, and so on spells nothing but bad for this game. It took a long-ass time to come out, and even people praising the ending have low expectations for seeing this entire thing through.

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Welp I found the 2 minute Hardmode Hellhouse build online, stagger the fucker then cast bioga and he doesn't even make it to third phase and you can user your limit breaks 2-3 times with Goddamerung.

They're not lying about Bioga being overpowered, you just have to triple slash the tonberry motherfuckers.
 

Interesting details here.

1: Apparently it fell hard in the second week of sales, into the midst of evergreen products. It's just ahead of Luigi's Mansion 3 (which released 6 months ago, remember.)
2: The fact that they don't even know how many more parts they need, what's going to be DLC, and so on spells nothing but bad for this game. It took a long-ass time to come out, and even people praising the ending have low expectations for seeing this entire thing through.
I only know of one person who bought it. He was happy with it though, so good for him.

I ain't gonna buy it, I'm just gonna ask him to lend it me while I maintain social distancing, because I ain't dying just to play some video game.
 

Interesting details here.

1: Apparently it fell hard in the second week of sales, into the midst of evergreen products. It's just ahead of Luigi's Mansion 3 (which released 6 months ago, remember.)
2: The fact that they don't even know how many more parts they need, what's going to be DLC, and so on spells nothing but bad for this game. It took a long-ass time to come out, and even people praising the ending have low expectations for seeing this entire thing through.


I take issue with this if only because OAG is run by a black pedo fag that jerks it to child pornography. He's not smart enough to come up with reliable articles on a consistent basis.
 
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