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Also, notice how all those articles Martin posted state "Police have said..." or "The military has confirmed...", and not "A Twitter post" and "guy said he spoke to police".
The Great Twitter Meltdown of 2021 - Emulator creator Byuu bullied to death by HateSpeech™ forum, Twitter takes up arms (Still No Death Report)
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US (or any embassy for that matter) = native soil, so *technically* not overseasHe must not be reading the thread too closely, we discussed military personnel and bases a while back, those are definitely not part of that report. US Government employees working for embassies...I'd guess those are counted differently by virtue of working for the embassy which is strictly speaking American soil, but I don't actually know on that one.
What ever the case, it clearly bothers the fuck out of him that the story now has evidence to dispute his lies and that's all that matters..
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In case you’re wondering, it’s a google translate fuckup. It’s a shortening of 鍵アカウント (kagi akaunto, locked account) because its easier to type. Never trust google translate
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I love it. All Hector had to do was take the L, lie low for a while and we'd likely have gotten bored of this shit by Christmas and forgotten all about it. But he can't keep our name out of his mouth. He just can't help himself.
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The absence of the Wuhan death is probably the easiest one to explain. That list of US citizen deaths overseas does not include a single COVID death. You can check it yourself. This is probably because, as the list states at the top of the page, it does not include deaths from natural causes:
U.S. Citizen Deaths Overseas said:
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finally made it to current page
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That's not how the Vienna Convention works. Embassies aren't US territory. They're foreign territory that is inviolable under the Convention. This is an important distinction when considering things like jus soli citizenship. Imagine if every pregnant woman in the world could give birth in the lobby of an embassy, or hop a fence and deliver on the front lawn--their offspring would all be US citizens.
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i didnt mean every embassy is UN soil., i meant every embassy is that country's native soil
ie, french embassy in japan, is french soil (per say), German embassy in Antarctica, is German soil (per say)
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That's not actually true, though, and the person you're responding to gave a specific example, that a person cannot obtain jus soli citizenship by merely giving birth on the grounds of an embassy of a country that has that particular rule of birthright citizenship.
How embassies are treated have some, but not all of the attributes of the territory of the state they're from, and are not actually the territory of that state. They are still territory of the foreign country. So long as they retain that status, they are inviolable under international law. However, the host country can revoke diplomatic privilege and eject all foreign diplomats at any time.
That is not something any country could do (under international law) to foreigners actually on their own territory.
It's correct that for limited purposes, an embassy is effectively the territory of the country where the embassy is from, and an embassy enjoys some limited form of sovereignty, but it is still in foreign territory, and can be kicked out.
This is something of a nice distinction, but it is still important.
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Starts looking for old articles that can prove Byuu totally died.
But posting the Death Certificate is too much work or some shit, idk.
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According to these lying faggots, they literally have a picture of his corpse.
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Sadly, the cunt's got a point. The existence of people who are known to have died overseas yet are not in the DB kinda proves that the DB is shyte.
I think if this was an act (and i'm still convinced it is, given he's played this game before), the only way the jig will be up is if he starts posting under a new persona and it gets connected to his old ones.
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It's not a point at all. None of the people he lists would have been cited by the rules of the specific list of people who died overseas from NON-NATURAL CAUSES. One is from an embassy. This wouldn't even go through that list. One is a service member. Similarly, this wouldn't EVER be in that list.
He's just moving goalposts again, like the gigantic cocksucking homosexual faggot he is, trusting that his moronic audience won't notice what he's doing, and he's probably right in that regard. Because anyone who believed the byuuicide fairy tale is really fucking stupid.
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Fair enough. And for the record, I'm not trying to defend this mong. A list like this, though, has too many opportunities for clerical fuckups for me to comfortably say 'someone who isn't on it is guaranteed to be alive'. It's still evidence, but extremely weak.
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It's better evidence than "dude trust me" which is all he's been able to provide us. Countries with strict immigration like Japan usually try to keep close tabs on people who enter and unless Byuu packed up and went innawoods or something it's not likely his death would have gone unnoticed if he actually was dead. Even if you're just sick and you miss a day or two of work it's not unusual for your co-workers to come check on you or something.
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A US embassy and most US bases are US soil no matter what geographical country they sit inside of. So, they are technically not "over seas" at all.
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Frankly, that's bullshit. Mostly because we're not using the list in a vacuum - there's a whole host of details from Hector, his anonymous death-listener friend, and from people like @Wayne Beckett (thread version, not necessarily real version) that are taken into consideration as well.
According to them, we have a rough time and a certain date of death. We have Japanese police confirming the death, and a nebulous colleague of some kind who has a photo of his body. We have a death certificate and we have an urn for the ashes of his cremated body. According to them we have all this evidence - procedural, governmental evidence - that other people aren't allowed to see but they totally have it you guys, trust me bro. Then, turns out the one piece of evidence of his death that they don't have sole access to, an official, impartial government statement of overseas deaths in Japan that anyone can access - that says that there's no way their story could be true.
Personally, I didn't believe it, but all possible doubt in my mind was gone when Hector said that Near specifically asked for no fundraising to be done in his name - a detail he didn't include in his original tweets about Near's 'death'. That, to me, was absolute enough, where the chance he'd actually killed himself went from slim to none. But what the list provides is a very solid source of information not controlled by Hector, or some random who signed up to the website, or a whole group of reporters who all, at the end of the day, only quote Hector's second-hand Twitter post (or in the case of USA Today, someone whose relevance is suspect even if it was who they say it was, rather than just someone they never saw face to face). And to doubt that information is to expect the State Department to make an extremely coincidental clerical error, of the type that Hector is trying to act like they make all the time but we don't have any evidence to support that.
tl;dr: It's only weak if you're scrambling for reasons to have your biases confirmed. But for those people, all evidence is weak unless Near comes to them and
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Byuu about as dead as this site after DDOS 'attempts'
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Did they just change someone's gender in the Matrix, cuz I've got deja vu.
Embassies are built on the sovereign territory of the receiving state. Under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and customary law (and possibly bilateral treaties and municipal statutes), the receiving state agrees not to violate the mission's premises and grants various levels of immunity to members of the mission. But that doesn't mean the sending state is annexing the receiving state's territory. No state would ever agree to let a foreign country annex a bit of their capital in exchange for the privilege of having some diplomats hanging around. The receiving state is simply letting the sending state's mission operate relatively unmolested.
Military bases don't even have the status of embassies. Whatever protection they have is due to status of forces agreements, or guys with machine guns at the gates.
See also 8 FAM 301 and Persinger v. Iran. European countries also acknowledge the jurisdiction of the receiving state (footnote 17).
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From what I've read they are technically still considered part of the country they're in but authorities from the hosting country aren't allowed to just waltz in without being granted permission. This is why the incident in China happened in 2012 with Wang Lijun, who went into the US Embassy where Chinese police couldn't touch him as long as he was in the building after he spilled the beans on some big scandals for the CCP. But since they're not considered foreign soil, a woman who, say, walks into the US Embassy and gives birth can't claim her child is a US Citizen because he was born on US soil, because it isn't.
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