The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[CrentistMcMahon]

lol I have never claimed to be an expert on cremation, much less the Topf process. I really can only quote from documents that describe it, and have done so earlier on this thread.

Stan, you may be interested in a 1985 analysis by engineers Klaus and Christel Kunz[...] I described this in more detail in a previous post but can try to dig up this paper if you are interested, hopefully there is an English version.

It's quite obvious that you aren't an expert on anything. I'm asking you for the paper.

 

[Lemmingwise]

we also know that the method was used by the Germans "secretly" during the war as a solution with their problem in not being able to cremate enough bodies.

It's a beautiful circular argument. "We know that the germans were able to burn unprecented amount of bodies per fuel, because they burned unprecedented amount of bodies per fuel."

It must have happened. And therefor, the first law of thermal dynamics is wrong. But we can't prove it. Because the technical documentation is secret.

 

[JohnDoe]

It's a beautiful circular argument. "We know that the germans were able to burn unprecented amount of bodies per fuel, because they burned unprecedented amount of bodies per fuel."

It must have happened. And therefor, the first law of thermal dynamics is wrong. But we can't prove it. Because the technical documentation is secret.

Remember, he's an experienced academic with a masterful grasp of theoretical chemistry, so he must be right. We plebs are just too stupid and brainwashed by our cult to recognize his brilliant Ivy League academic style, which is better suited to the vaulted halls and ivory towers instead of being wasted on the likes of us.

 

[History Speaks]

It's quite obvious that you aren't an expert on anything. I'm asking you for the paper.

I am actually now looking for an original copy of this technical report - which is quoted extensively in Van Pelt and other secondary sources - to add to my documentary dossier, I know the Auschwitz state museum in Oswiecim has a copy.

I am guessing you are LARPing about the Holocaust Scientology stuff and are just a monoligual English speaker who is incapable of studying German history. However if you speak German I will send this report to you when I get it. If not I can still send it and you can larp as having read and analyzed it.

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

I am actually now [...]Auschwitz. [...]I am [...] the Holocaust

Woah, calm down buddy.

 

[CrentistMcMahon]

I can still send it and you can larp as having read and analyzed it.

I'd appreciate it

 

[Lemmingwise]

Remember, he's an experienced academic with a masterful grasp of theoretical chemistry, so he must be right. We plebs are just too stupid and brainwashed by our cult to recognize his brilliant Ivy League academic style, which is better suited to the vaulted halls and ivory towers instead of being wasted on the likes of us.

I am guessing you are LARPing about the Holocaust Scientology stuff

Lmao why do you have to guess?

I heard from tom cruise that this history speaks guy is a suppressive person and I've sent a team to gangstalk him so he stops sharing his anti-scientology ideas of the first law of thermodynamics being purely hypothetical. This goes against the great lord elron hubbard.

I know it's kooky to believe in the first law of thermodynamics, but I get to belong to a group and on saturdays we have soup.

 

[History Speaks]

Headed to sleep, Have a good night all.

I mean that sincerely, and your responses to this will not affect that sincerity.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Headed to sleep, Have a good night all.

I mean that sincerely, and your responses to this will not affect that sincerity.

Good night. See you tomorrow. It's nice you can find some belonging and attention here, I'm sure.

 

[Stan]

It's quite obvious that you aren't an expert on anything. I'm asking you for the paper.

See that's the funny part. Holocaust deniers ask for papers and evidence, and then refuse to read it or claim its fake once those items are provided. Then you guys make claims with zero citations, as if saying "Mengele was a caring doctor fighting malaria in buchenwald " somehow makes it true. That has been happening in this very thread, and once something is substantiated, you tards return to squishy and immaterial debates about crematorium efficiency and play pretend that the SS gave a flying fuck about treating the illnesses of camp inmates. The weirdest part is that this is all in service of improving the reputation of Nazism. Why is that??? fuckin skinheads

Edit: The fuck do any of you know about crematoriums anyway. Nothing that you didn't learn for the sake of posting in this thread, I bet.

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

See that's the funny part. Holocaust

 

[Stan]

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OK so you do this because you're Anti-semitic.

How far up does it go, fam? Why the keen interest in reframing the Nazis as nice fellas? What exactly do you think you're trying to prove and what do you gain?

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

OK so you do this because you're Anti-semitic.

How far up does it go, fam? Why the keen interest in reframing the Nazis as nice fellas? What exactly do you think you're trying to prove and what do you gain?

The holocaust is just cracker on cracker violence, who gives a fuck.

 

[Chugger]

"well I have a secret patent that purports to use the corpse's fat as fuel"

The patent is not available in full online but there's enough to validate it as real imo

Pressac's book features some scans

It's called ' Continuous operation corpse incineration furnace for intensive use'

There's only 2 pages included, but the patent was used in the Irving libel case. We learn from the proceedings that both Irving and Germar Rudolf have commented on the document, so it's safe to assume they looked at it and were able to verify its authenticity. Rudolf's argument against it is not that it is fake but was to be used for processing "animal carcasses and butcher's garbage". This is clearly contradicted by the description from the patent itself.

and the source here is given, so conceivably anyone interested could take a look-- is this true HS?

And engineers made this assessment in 85

Van Pelt's report also includes mention of a very real incinerator used by Simonds which uses a supposedly similar process .

 

[Lemmingwise]

Experts, according to you:
"It is unclear if the incinerator would have ever worked".

 

[Bonesjones]

See this design sorta looks like this later design if you are a retard, so they are basically identical. Despite one just being a hypothetical device where combusted objects fall deeper through grates to a forced air furnace which is much more complicated in design, function, and requirements.


And patents are meaningless considering how many exist for perpetual motion machines. So considering your lack of physics knowledge, I'm sure you think the Nazis used one in their crematories.

 

[Chugger]

Experts, according to you:
"It is unclear if the incinerator would have ever worked".

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Perhaps because it was never built.

Nevertheless the Simonds commercial device description states explicitly that when at capacity, it can "operate without auxillary fuel". Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like you were saying this was scientifically impossible.

 

[timewave0]

I don’t care to discuss the Holocaust but I think this image is fucking hilarious and have nowhere else to post it:

If the goal is to discourage people from claiming that Holocaust numbers are exaggerated, it might be wise not to exaggerate numbers about people saying the numbers were exaggerated

 

[Lemmingwise]

Perhaps because it was never built.

Nevertheless the Simonds commercial device description states explicitly that when at capacity, it can "operate without auxillary fuel". Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like you were saying this was scientifically impossible.

I just have to trust your experts, right? They say it is unclear if it would have ever worked.

A commercial description is meaningless unless it works in practice.

 

[Bonesjones]

Perhaps because it was never built.

Nevertheless the Simonds commercial device description states explicitly that when at capacity, it can "operate without auxillary fuel". Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like you were saying this was scientifically impossible.

Do you need to be explained directly how the two things are completely unrelated?