The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[Bonesjones]

Ease of manufacture, and the fact that it was on-hand. It is a delousing agent - which, if you tried, would kill in sufficient quantities. Why waste Sarin when HCN will suffice? Plus, again, wooden doors. You kinda answer your own questions, then scream about Jews.

So are bullets which are cheaper, easier, faster. Again you piecemeal from facts to build a ludicrous narrative. Every word you speak shows your own ignorance of the basic facts and a regurgitation of narrative.

Ignorance of what?

You don't even know what you could be ignorant of because you don't actually know anything but talking points.

We can. Easily. The evidence is overwhelming, and it's not that you're interested in a specific argument or point.

And yet you can't post any of it, only reference to it existing and saying that's enough.

You're still doing the question mark thing, which usually means "This person has a disgusting smell which follows them around" - all of your points, every single one, is bullshit. It takes literally one sentence to undo each point. But you still insist that it's a discussion - it isn't. It's a man brazenly lying and then screaming about being silenced.

Nice pilpul. You're posts get longer and more annoyed because you can't actually do anything to subvert or deny me. For all your endless kvetching and pilpul all we have to do is remind you of one single fact: you have not one single body of one jew gassed to death. You've had decades to even make them or find them, and yet they can't be found.

The Arab world has failed at every single opportunity to beat the Jews in combat because the Jews are better than Arabs.

Yeah like when they attacked the border in Gaza and Isreali helicopters shot everyone indiscriminately, really superior at war.

 

[Doctor Love]

So are bullets which are cheaper, easier, faster.

No, they're not. How the fuck would that make any sense? Explain this to me, please - because the amount of energy which goes into the production of a single bullet is considerably more than what goes into HCN production.

Nice pilpul. You're posts get longer and more annoyed because you can't actually do anything to subvert or deny me.

Because you're fucking retarded. Your understanding of reality is to stomp your feet and say "that's not true!"

And yet you can't post any of it, only reference to it existing and saying that's enough.

Because if I tried to explain to you why two processes, both of which use ammonia and oxygen, produce different chemicals - and one of them is an extremely poisonous liquid which boils at a low temperature, while the other is an acid used to produce munitions, it would go straight over your head.

You would accuse me of lying to you - because your lack of understanding, combined with arrogance, makes it impossible to explain it. The reason people jumped to that conclusion is because it was the most feasible - and there's a good reason for that.

you have not one single body of one jew gassed to death. You've had decades to even make them or find them, and yet they can't be found.

See - you pretend that you understand things, and when you don't, you spazz out. They used the same method they still use, to this day, to destroy the carcasses of infected animals.

[The Gestapo] ordered the assembled Jews to strip--first those who were standing near the large pit. Then they ordered the naked people to go down into both pits and jump into the larger pit. I could not describe the wailing and the crying. Some Jews were jumping without an order--even most of them--some were resisting and they were being beaten about and pushed down. Some mothers jumped in holding their children, some were throwing their children in, others were flinging their children aside. Still others threw the children in first and then jumped in.... This lasted until noon and then a lorry came from the road and stopped on the path by the clearing. I noticed four vat-like containers. Then the Germans set up a small motor--it was probably a pump--connected it with hoses to one of the vats and two of them brought the hoses from the motor up to the pit. They started the motor and the two Gestapo men began to pour some liquid, like water, on the Jews. But I am not sure what the liquid was. While pumping, they were connecting hoses to the other containers, one by one. Apparently, because of the slaking of the lime, people in the pit were boiling alive. The cries were so terrible that we who were sitting by the piles of clothing began to tear pieces of stuff to stop our ears. The crying of those boiling in the pit was joined by the wailing and lamentation of the Jews waiting for their perdition. All this lasted perhaps two hours, perhaps longer."

Do you want to know more about this, or will you scream and deny it? This isn't from a Jewish witness - this is from a Polish officer who was captured by the USSR. It's from 1941 and it's located in Mauthausen.

Another source, from the Soviet Union:

They had a lot of Russian ... er ... prisoners there, at the famous Mathausen quarry. And that enormous staircase that goes up the mountain which was made from the quarry, cut into the quarry. And they had the limepits. People who couldn't work any more, they would take them to the limepits and shoot them.
I.: The people who were too weak ...
M.P.:Too feeble to work or ... I don't know how they selected them, but they were shooting them, and a lot of people were still alive and then they put lime on them.
I.: Do you ... do you remember the pe ... were they mostly women or ... or ...?
M.P.:Women, children, babies, men. This was a woman's barracks, but the man's barracks was across the barbed wires. And once in a while they would let us take a shower, they would take us to the showers. And we still didn't know that there was only one oven and there were no showers in Mathausen [laughs], each time we thought we will be exterminated. And the word there was also lime-pits. They put people in lime-pits.
I.: Alive?
M.P.:Alive or not alive, shot, whatever. They were throwing them into them.

So not only do we know exactly what happened to most, if not all, of the bodies, we know how they developed this method. Matthausen had a veterinarian, who suggested the process - similar to what was used to kill infected animals - and they modified it for continuous use. If you continually lye solution through a pit, it will eventually dissolve everything except for the aforementioned calcium.

If you check - the actual sources mention quicklime a lot. Do I have to explain what quicklime is, too, or not? Because the one I quoted would work, perfectly - that is exactly what it would look like, and it is the absolute cheapest way to dispose of that many bodies.

 

[Bonesjones]

Because you're fucking retarded. Your understanding of reality is to stomp your feet and say "that's not true!"

I've literally posted in over 100 pages of this retarded thread and you've read none of it. Because you are just the next disingenuous retard to come along, making the same debunked arguments as nauseum. You have nothing but the worst ill informed arguments backed by nothing with nothing to offer.

You would accuse me of lying to you - because your lack of understanding, combined with arrogance, makes it impossible to explain it. The reason people jumped to that conclusion is because it was the most feasible - and there's a good reason for that.

You are lying and the reason people jumped to that was because of layers of propaganda, no matter how little sense it actually makes. Jews are literally the worst eye witnesses you could use, with their heavy in group preferences and extremely high rates of mental illness including schizophrenia.

See - you pretend that you understand things, and when you don't, you spazz out. They used the same method they still use, to this day, to destroy the carcasses of infected animals.

I'm not spazzing out, I'm literally making fun of you. You are just another retard jew nigger. Again show me one corpse of one jew that was gassed to death. That's a simple yes or no question. If the answer is no, then you have nothing.

 

[Doctor Love]

You are lying and the reason people jumped to that was because of layers of propaganda, no matter how little sense it actually makes. Jews are literally the worst eye witnesses you could use, with their heavy in group preferences and extremely high rates of mental illness including schizophrenia.

That wasn't a Jew. That was a Pole and a Russian.

've literally posted in over 100 pages of this retarded thread and you've read none of it. Because you are just the next disingenuous retard to come along, making the same debunked arguments as nauseum. You have nothing but the worst ill informed arguments backed by nothing with nothing to offer.

lol so basic chemistry is debunked, now? How? Show me the debunking of slaking lime.

 

[Doctor Love]

I'm not spazzing out, I'm literally making fun of you. You are just another retard jew nigger. Again show me one corpse of one jew that was gassed to death. That's a simple yes or no question. If the answer is no, then you have nothing.

Here is a picture of a Jewish man after he was gassed, and aquamated with quicklime:

 

[Bonesjones]

Here is a picture of a Jewish man after he was gassed, and aquamated with quicklime:

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So you admit defeat? No proof of a single person being killed with Zyklon B exists.


Hey look more proof of Bigfoot existing than the entire Holocaust.


Your absence of evidence can't be proven by further absences of evidence. You have not one single dead jew to point at. Your narrative fails at point 1.

You dont even have any direct orders to point to, hence the invention of code words and Nazi telepathy.

Remember that jews are so inhumanly ghoulish, that when presented with the fact that millions of their family members, friends and relatives weren't killed. They fight with all their power to prove you wrong. Why do you wish so many jews died? I'm personally thrilled that it is. Oh wait the holocaust being a lie is just more fuel to the flame that jews and communists (but I repeat myself) are the literal demons Jesus said they are.

 

[Doctor Love]

So you admit defeat? No proof of a single person being killed with Zyklon B exists.

No, lol, you're a retard. HCN is an extremely common industrial chemical - around 500,000 tonnes per year. It kills miners in Africa, it is the main killer in house fires, it kills farm workers who get too close to the pesticides... Zyklon B kills a lot of people, to this day.

Infact - Eva Braun, Hitler's wife, was killed by Zyklon B.

You dont even have any direct orders to point to, hence the invention of code words and Nazi telepathy.

Telepathy? What? Why would they need telepathy or code words? "Just fucking kill them" was pretty common.

Like I said - 99% of Holocaust denial is retards, typically Arabs, who don't understand maths, chemistry, biology, physics, psychology, basic mechanics, etc, saying "I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS, SO YOU MUST BE LYING"

It's why Israel still exists. Because of Arab inbreeding, the Israelis have managed to outperform the entire Arab world in every metric. No Muslim comes close to the average Jew, just because Arabs are that fucking retarded.

This isn't hard shit - but, if the average Arab could comprehend the processes that the average German knew, a century ago, then Israel wouldn't exist.

 

[Bonesjones]

No, lol, you're a retard. HCN is an extremely common industrial chemical - around 500,000 tonnes per year. It kills miners in Africa, it is the main killer in house fires, it kills farm workers who get too close to the pesticides... Zyklon B kills a lot of people, to this day.

"Guys we hate jews so much we gassed them all, but not openly all at once, but a handful at a time so we could move their dead bodies into ovens and burn them into nothing because there aren't any mountains of ash left over, also the fuel to do so doesn't exist because jews are made of wood, so they didn't need external supplies of fuel." This is your retarded argument because you yourself are a retard. You are a subnigger monkey banging away at a keyboard with no thought in your brain.

Telepathy? What? Why would they need telepathy or code words? "Just fucking kill them" was pretty common.

So where are the orders then? You clearly can't point to anything in particular, you just vaguely gesture that it exists somewhere. You know because you are a literal retard. A sub 80 IQ chat bot who goes off on emotional tangents.

Again: give us the direct hard facts. You have none, you've lost.

 

[Doctor Love]

"Guys we hate jews so much we gassed them all, but not openly all at once, but a handful at a time so we could move their dead bodies into ovens and burn them into nothing because there aren't any mountains of ash left over, also the fuel to do so doesn't exist because jews are made of wood, so they didn't need external supplies of fuel."

See what I mean - there's no intelligence behind the words. It's just screaming about Jews. It might as well be a bot lol

The estimate is a total of one million who were killed with Zyklon B. Very few bodies were burned - cremations were reserved for POWs, excluding Soviets.

In order to dispose of the bodies, they used calcium oxide, reacted it with water to produce a hot caustic solution of calcium hydroxide. I would suggest trying this - get some lime - lime mortar, lime plaster works too. Make sure it's not gypsum plaster. Then, cover yourself in a thick layer of it and jump into a bathtub full of warm water.

There was one Muslim who understood how Zyklon B worked. Saddam Hussein also used it to kill a bunch of Kurds.

 

[geckogoy]

TBF @Doctor Love is objectively retarded

Also yea, shooting them would be far cheaper than moving them by train and feeding and housing them for years. Actually, starving them would have been even cheaper.

In order to dispose of the bodies, they used calcium oxide, reacted it with water to produce a hot caustic solution of calcium hydroxide.

Lol why

 

[Bonesjones]

The estimate is a total of one million who were killed with Zyklon B. Very few bodies were burned - cremations were reserved for POWs, excluding Soviets.

They killed millions with gas? Post 1. Oh you can't find any so you conflate war deaths with mass murder. Crazy how you keep having to revise what and how the holocaust happened because you can't even start with the basics.

In order to dispose of the bodies, they used calcium oxide, reacted it with water to produce a hot caustic solution of calcium hydroxide. I would suggest trying this - get some lime - lime mortar, lime plaster works too. Make sure it's not gypsum plaster. Then, cover yourself in a thick layer of it and jump into a bathtub full of warm water.

I'd suggest you try not being Jewish but we all know that's impossible. That Rabbi sucking your baby dick really does a number on your whole inbred culture.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

Here is my fence sitting position - holocaust did happened, just not 6 gorillion kikes were killed. Much, much lesser number

 

[Doctor Love]

TBF @Doctor Love is objectively retarded

That isn't really how strokes or aneurysms work, man. They don't affect cognitive processing.

Also yea, shooting them would be far cheaper than moving them by train and feeding and housing them for years. Actually, starving them would have been even cheaper.

It genuinely would not be cheaper. Just, stoichiometrically, the N in HCN is the exact same N which is in TNT or Nitrocellulose.

In real terms, bullets are a lot more expensive than HCN. In order to shoot one million people, you'd need to acquire several hundred tonnes of ammunition. For the same mass of one bullet, you could easily kill an entire chamber full of Jews. It takes around 0.7g, per cubic meter, to guarantee death. We know this because the Germans conveniently tested that out.

I think you're underestimating how poisonous cyanide gas is, or how cheap it is to produce.

Lol why

Cost-effectiveness. Lime is an exothermic reaction, so when the lime meets water it releases heat. This produces a hot corrosive substance, calcium hydroxide. This increases the rate of reaction, and causes additional decomposition.

This is also why you should not kneel in wet concrete. It produces, essentially, acid hot enough to melt your skin and meat away from the bone.

Here is my fence sitting position - holocaust did happened, just not 6 gorillion kikes were killed. Much, much lesser number

Yeah - that's actually the reality. Nobody really claims much higher than that - historians generally argue over what defines Holocaust. The total number of Jews who died was a little under 6 million - but those are attributed to every cause, and wrongly allocated to the Nazis, alone.

They killed millions with gas? Post 1. Oh you can't find any so you conflate war deaths with mass murder. Crazy how you keep having to revise what and how the holocaust happened because you can't even start with the basics.

No lol, I know they exist because it's my entire field. Zyklon B is Hydrogen Cyanide. It's a very important and common chemical.

The entire reason we can make it safely is because the Germans did a lot of research on exposure limits. There are tonnes of pictures.

Here is a picture of Jews being executed and thrown into a pit with slaked lime.

Here is a picture of dead Jews covered in lime.



The lime would be slaked by adding water. With a few pumps and pipes, you could turn the entire process into something more automatic - and then just keep adding Jews and removing the product solution.

 

[geckogoy]

Cost-effectiveness. Lime is an exothermic reaction

Broke: utterly obliterate remains with lime (the cheapest possible way)
Bespoke: leave pile of bones and forget about it

 

[Bonesjones]

Lol why

Cover story for the original lie. Can't prove they were killed, so invent new reasons that they can't find the bodies. It's basic pilpul. Jews always lie and never tell the truth. Ask them a yes or no question and they'll write a dissertation with nothing to do with the question. Exhibit 1:

Yeah - that's actually the reality. Nobody really claims much higher than that - historians generally argue over what defines Holocaust. The total number of Jews who died was a little under 6 million - but those are attributed to every cause, and wrongly allocated to the Nazis, alone.

Except they originally claimed more and revised it down, then they added "other undesirables" so they could claim the original number was wrong. Still can't produce 1 jew killed by poison gas.

No lol, I know they exist because it's my entire field. Zyklon B is Hydrogen Cyanide. It's a very important and common chemical.

So you are an expert with over 80 years and billion dollars of funding. Can't find 1 gassed jew. Man it's not looking good.

The entire reason we can make it safely is because the Germans did a lot of research on exposure limits. There are tonnes of pictures.

Yeah they did do a lot of experimenting to determine the safe use of zyklon B as a delousing agent. Weird how you lie by omission. Not really you couldn't tell the truth if it would earn you a schekle.

Here is a picture of Jews being executed and thrown into a pit with slaked lime.

Why are they shot and not gassed? It's so cheap and easy. Your own words. You can't even keep your story straight between posts. Why are you so emotional about basic facts?

Here is a picture of dead Jews covered in lime.

From Ohrdruf Concentration Camp, which isnt a death camp. So did the Germans do that or did the Allies? Wow another lie by omission. You've really ruined your own arguments.

The lime would be slaked by adding water. With a few pumps and pipes, you could turn the entire process into something more automatic - and then just keep adding Jews and removing the product solution.

I thought they were cremated, do you dare revise and deny the story of the Holocaust? That could have you imprisoned all over Europe.

 

[R00T]

I've literally posted in over 100 pages of this retarded thread and you've read none of it.

“I’ve been denying the Holocaust in this thread for years” isn’t really the feather in your cap you think it is.

 

[Bonesjones]

“I’ve been denying the Holocaust in this thread for years” isn’t really the feather in your cap you think it is.

Its a point that unless you can bring new arguments or evidence, we've heard it all and debunked it. I know exactly what they will post before they post it, which I've already shown. I do it to watch them squirm. They are puppets.

 

[Doctor Love]

Broke: utterly obliterate remains with lime kilns (the cheapest possible way)

I know why the Jews lie about this exact problem. It wasn't even kilns. It was a fucking ditch.

"Sorry Moishe - your grandma was blasted with a pressure hose in a pit full of lime. We tried to find it out, but her remains were homogenised, neutralised and released into the water table. She's all around us, Moishe. She isn't in Poland. She and Poland are now the same object. They are no longer distinguishable on a molecular level."

Hydrolysis is crazy shit. It's not even ash - it is literally just a "liquid mass"

From Ohrdruf Concentration Camp, which isnt a death camp. So did the Germans do that or did the Allies? Wow another lie by omission. You've really ruined your own arguments.

Lol so ask a Russian. I'm British, what the fuck were you expecting?

I thought they were cremated, do you dare revise and deny the story of the Holocaust? That could have you imprisoned all over Europe.

You thought they were cremated, because you're a retard who doesn't know what the story of the Holocaust is. It couldn't get me imprisoned - trust me - it's because you have no idea what happened, and refuse to actually learn.

Jews debate this shit. Rabbis choose to believe that liquefactive necrosis is, according to their religion, a type of cremation and therefor Kosher. This is because they are faced with the horrifying reality that no religion on the planet considered this as a possible burial method, prior to its use in the Second World War. Their justification is that the small quantity of insoluble calcium dust, left behind for obvious reasons, is "ash"

Its a point that unless you can bring new arguments or evidence, we've heard it all and debunked it. I know exactly what they will post before they post it, which I've already shown.

No, you haven't. I did check, you didn't mention any of this. At all - you don't even seem to understand what processes I'm talking about. You cited the cost - and the most pathetic part of it is this:

I do it to watch them squirm. They are puppets.

If you were truly an independent thinker, you wouldn't say something as fucking retarded as "bullets are cheap" - it's like when a virgin tries to talk about sex. You try to sound edgy, but when confronted with reality, you shy away and cry about how the world isn't as easy as you thought it was.

Nobody thinks you're controversial - it's the false confidence you have which annoys me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQARRckm6U

You have no idea what any of these things are because you're a soft, moisturised fag. I bet you even preen your beard to look manlier. Even Israel isn't scared of you, and the world is concerned because they don't want to have to take refugees from the entire Arab world.

Arabs, who have never developed a single weapon or unique strategy of their own and rely entirely on shitty copies of white people's machines, were deeply shocked that the Jews invented several cutting-edge firearms specifically to kill hostile Arabs - when they assumed the survivors of the Holocaust were weak.

The Jews, on the other hand, were shocked at how easy it was to defeat the Arabs - repeatedly - since they had just about survived Hitler. Arabs would just run directly into the line of fire, screaming - when they developed the Uzi, they were shocked that its relative inaccuracy didn't matter because Arabs wouldn't even try to take cover. They'd start, literally, crying and begging for mercy as soon as the IDF got close.

They would genuinely break down and beg as soon as they heard the fire-rate of an Uzi. They were often armed with, at the time, cutting edge Soviet weaponry, but still couldn't hold the line. Like children, they genuinely couldn't comprehend what an actual war looks like. Despite the fact that, oftentimes, the Arabs outnumbered the Israelis. Infact, this is why there was so many prisoners. Israelis would fight to the death, while Arabs would just give up when actual soldiers came in.

Then, of course, cry about war crimes when the Israelis - who behave like a functional country - shoot them, because they invaded the country to rape and murder women and children. It's like they don't understand war, whatsoever. Like with your earlier comments - trying to imply that Hamas are somehow innocent, and that the Israelis - an experience and competent military force - is wrong for treating war like it should be treated.

You ever notice how Jews panic whenever white people start to seem antisemitic? It's because they know full-well that whites actually resemble a significant threat. Their biggest concern with the Arabs is that "White people might believe them when they lie"

 

[Bonesjones]

You thought they were cremated, because you're a retard who doesn't know what the story of the Holocaust is. It couldn't get me imprisoned - trust me - it's because you have no idea what happened, and refuse to actually learn.

No the official story of the Holocaust is that jews were gassed and cremated. You are currently denying the holocaust. It's just another round of not having evidence in one area and trying to create it in another. Its the same song and dance jews do.

Jews debate this shit. Rabbis choose to believe that liquefactive necrosis is, according to their religion, a type of cremation and therefor Kosher. This is because they are faced with the horrifying reality that no religion on the planet considered this as a possible burial method, prior to its use in the Second World War. Their justification is that the small quantity of insoluble calcium dust, left behind for obvious reasons, is "ash"

Yet they never debate not sucking baby dicks. Your whole religion and culture is based on geriatric old men cutting up and sucking on infant penis. You support this whole heartedly. Never forget that.

No one considers it cremation because it's not, it's a chemical disposal of remains thats been used for millenia. I thought you were an expert? I guess you don't know they use lime for disease control of which jews died of. Oh man look at that they were controlling for Typhus. Those evil genocidal Germans, always trying to cure and protect against disease. I guess if you are a parasite and disease it all looks the same to you.

You're arguments are as verbose as they are wrong and pathetic.

If you were truly an independent thinker, you wouldn't say something as fucking retarded as "bullets are cheap" - it's like when a virgin tries to talk about sex. You try to sound edgy, but when confronted with reality, you shy away and cry about how the world isn't as easy as you thought it was.

You don't know anything about what you are trying to say, you have no idea what logistics are, now they work and how they influence behavior. So tell me why poison gas and the disposal of remains is both cheaper and easier than something that doesn't require concerted disposal and protection from? I can shoot a body at the site of burial, this is exponentially easier than moving a pile of bodies from an enclosed space to who knows where. Oh look I just disproved your whole argument again.

Nobody thinks you're controversial - it's the false confidence you have which annoys me.

Then why would I be arrested in 17 countries for stating basic facts of reality? You think it's false because you are an echo chamber existing retard.

You have no idea what any of these things are because you're a soft, moisturised fag. I bet you even preen your beard to look manlier. Even Israel isn't scared of you, and the world is concerned because they don't want to have to take refugees from the entire Arab world.

A jew pretending he knows what hard work is. The last guy who made jews do manual labor got so mad they said it was genocide. You are a weak stupid inbred parasite. The only thing scary about you is your inhumanity.

Also no one cares about your endless Arab sperging since your own golem will kill you.

 

[Black Man Underwear]

If any of the statements made in this thread against the Holocaust were made in public in the nations highlighted in red, the speaker would be arrested and imprisoned for varying sentences.

This alone justifies the question. If it's so true, why do I need to be forced to believe it?

I know the holocaust didn't happen, because locking 100 or so people in a room at a time and throwing gas in it is infinitely more expensive than starvation. The ovens also don't make sense, as per the modern industrial oven argument.

It is infinitely cheaper to starve a population to death than to:

1. Arrest them
2. Put them on trains to a giant prison
3. Lock them in a giant prison
4. Tattoo them alphanumerically and issue autistically categorized garments
5. Let them breed while awaiting execution
6. Feed them
7. Gas them

Some other uncomfortable facts:

• Children were born at Auschwitz
• Auschwitz had a swim team for inmates
• Auschwitz had a currency for inmates
• Auschwitz had a medical facility for inmates
• Auschwitz had a brothel for inmates

Considering Auschwitz is regarded as one of the worst camps, it surprises me that I could get a job, hookers, dental implants and a regular swim in while raising a family, all while waiting for the supposed mass-execution.

No prison in America would give you such luxuries while on death row.

Finally, the hyperventilation over it has never ended. Face it, Jews run everything, so they cry genocide every time someone touches them.
Holocaust is now the response to any criticism of Israel or Jews generally, both from Jews and every allied government.

Stalin killed tens of millions of Russians, where are the Russian expats who never stop talking about the Holodomor?
Where is the Spielberg film with sad violin music?
Come on, it even has a similar name, and they happened at the same time.