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The DoL publishes statistics about PERM approvals for every quarter, which are for the jobs that show up on jobs.now. The vast majority of them went to Indian citizens, as of 2024Q3 (source):
Interesting that they stopped counting country of citizenship starting 2024Q4. I even tried looking at their labor performance data but it's missing
I don't think applying to these jobs has the effect that people are hoping for. The pinned box on the front page even mistakenly calls them "H1B PERM" despite PERM and H-1B being almost unrelated and under two separate government departments. At worst, this would prevent someone from India being able extend their stay indefinitely in the U.S. which is what an approved PERM lets you do with an H-1B (This also only applies to Indians since they have an indefinite wait for permanent residency).
Without PERM, all an Indian worker has to do is live outside the U.S. for a year and they can apply for another 6-year H-1B. The Labor Condition Application that a company has to submit for an H-1B does not need to test market demand for a job. Even if they're denied an H-1B there's other options like a 5-year L visa or a 3-year OPT employment authorization. During that time, they'd also be able to re-apply for an H-1B every year.
TLDR: Sending applications on jobs.now probably has a net zero impact on jeet inflow to the U.S.
Interesting that they stopped counting country of citizenship starting 2024Q4. I even tried looking at their labor performance data but it's missing
FOREIGN_WORKER_BIRTH_COUNTRY for anything in 2025.I don't think applying to these jobs has the effect that people are hoping for. The pinned box on the front page even mistakenly calls them "H1B PERM" despite PERM and H-1B being almost unrelated and under two separate government departments. At worst, this would prevent someone from India being able extend their stay indefinitely in the U.S. which is what an approved PERM lets you do with an H-1B (This also only applies to Indians since they have an indefinite wait for permanent residency).
Without PERM, all an Indian worker has to do is live outside the U.S. for a year and they can apply for another 6-year H-1B. The Labor Condition Application that a company has to submit for an H-1B does not need to test market demand for a job. Even if they're denied an H-1B there's other options like a 5-year L visa or a 3-year OPT employment authorization. During that time, they'd also be able to re-apply for an H-1B every year.
TLDR: Sending applications on jobs.now probably has a net zero impact on jeet inflow to the U.S.
